RU cannot let it up.....its playing against 2 schools vying for the Big 10 title, 2 schools desperately in needs of wins to make the ncaa tourney and a team playing loose as hell. RU needs to continue to play desperate themselves.
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RU cannot let it up.....its playing against 2 schools vying for the Big 10 title, 2 schools desperately in needs of wins to make the ncaa tourney and a team playing loose as hell. RU needs to continue to play desperate themselves.
I'll second that recommendation! Stayed there a few years ago.
You said you felt win 2 of last 5 plus 1 in tournament cements it
I think 1 plus 1 in tournament cements it
But I am sorry can’t say you are wrong just opinion
Was just looking at Iowa's remaining schedule, and I don't think they'll be in the field if they can't get a Quad 1 win.
They have 6 games left, and 4 are Q1.... and they are currently 17-8. If they drop all of their Q1 games and win the other 2, they'll finish 19-12 with no wins against a team ranked better than Indiana.
They have 6 games left, and 4 are Q1.... and they are currently 17-8. If they drop all of their Q1 games and win the other 2, they'll finish 19-12 with no wins against a team ranked better than Indiana.
I think 3 and 3 does it for them probably. Indiana and Michigan have tougher schedules. Sparty at home is their best shot, its a win they should get. If they get picked off at Nebby that would be deadly
beating Rutgers is pretty much a MUST win for Indiana and Michigan which isnt necessarily a good thing for us. Although if we beat both we really seperated ourselves from the last 4 in
beating Rutgers is pretty much a MUST win for Indiana and Michigan which isnt necessarily a good thing for us. Although if we beat both we really seperated ourselves from the last 4 in
Agreed. I believe we’re a 9/10-seed right now and if we win 3-4 more games and 1-2 more in the tourney, we’ll be a 5/6 seed – and could even get to 3 or 4 if we win either the title or the tourney, which are probably longshots, but so was winning the last 4 games. Amazing stuff.
But being an RU fan, I worry and I just don’t want to see a repeat of last year when we got ranked #11 and then went into a tailspin, but I think this team knows they’re not more talented than the other teams we're playing, in general, and that the secret to winning against very good teams is to play harder - as put so well by Illini Coach Underwood in his post-game presser - and more as a team on both O and D than the other teams.
I want my 2 wins in the regular season to get to 12, which is a lock for the tourney, before the PSU game, as I don't want to have to win with our backs against the wall - I'd much rather enjoy an ass-kicking of State Penn from the comfort of knowing we're in.
Yea, playing Michigan and Indiana late in the season with huge NCAA implications is not ideal timing for those games. They should both be locked in and focused needing wins badly
I'd guess we're between 50/50 and 75/25 if we finish 1-4 to get to 17/13/11-9 and then 1-1 in the tourney to get to 18-14/12-10, as we'd still have a huge number of quality wins. The variance is on who we beat: if our last win is against PSU, I'd say 50/50 (and maybe a little lower), whereas if it's against anyone else, it'll be a Q1 win, which is why I'd say 75/25 to be in - and especially if the last win is a road win.
I still think we're 99% in if we finish 2-3 for 18-12/12-8 and then lose 1 in the tourney for 18-13/12-9 - that one less loss matters, plus it also means one more Q1 win at a minimum.
Looking only at the NET (and not at who actually gets in), IMHO playing a crap OOC schedule does not hurt assuming you win. RUs problem was not that we scheduled a crazy easy OOC, it was that we lost to some. Our overall SOS is still very strong.
Take a look at Murray State with a NET of 23. They have more Q4 wins (14-0) then Q1/Q2 games played(4-1). Their SOS to date is 219th vs RU which is 44th. Difference is they have only one lose to a Q3/Q4 team
Take a look at Murray State with a NET of 23. They have more Q4 wins (14-0) then Q1/Q2 games played(4-1). Their SOS to date is 219th vs RU which is 44th. Difference is they have only one lose to a Q3/Q4 team
Would that really be so terrible? NET in the 40s is fine and we would be beyond safely in the dance.
Do you want NET top 10? What is the goal?
I'm interested in the first top 16 released
If you are looking at overall resume, Arizona should be #1, Gonzaga #2, but if they value 6 Q1s vs 5 Q1s and a shit ton of blowouts against Q4s or actual real victories, Q1/2 AZ 10-2, Zags 8-2 Q1/2/3 AZ 15-2 vs Zags 9-2. Baylor and Kentucky should round out the top 4. 2nd line should be Auburn, Kansas, Purdue, and Nova, 3rd line should have Duke, Tenn, Illinois, LSU 4th line will have Wisconsin, Alabama, Texas Tech and UCLA, over Houston, no Q1, 13 Q1/2/3 and Texas Q1 5-5, 11 Q1/2/3, I know Houston's 3 losses to Q1 were one possession losses, Wisc, Bama, @ SMU, but they don't belong in the top 16 with 0 Q1s. Don't really see any other candidates for top 16.
If you are looking at overall resume, Arizona should be #1, Gonzaga #2, but if they value 6 Q1s vs 5 Q1s and a shit ton of blowouts against Q4s or actual real victories, Q1/2 AZ 10-2, Zags 8-2 Q1/2/3 AZ 15-2 vs Zags 9-2. Baylor and Kentucky should round out the top 4. 2nd line should be Auburn, Kansas, Purdue, and Nova, 3rd line should have Duke, Tenn, Illinois, LSU 4th line will have Wisconsin, Alabama, Texas Tech and UCLA, over Houston, no Q1, 13 Q1/2/3 and Texas Q1 5-5, 11 Q1/2/3, I know Houston's 3 losses to Q1 were one possession losses, Wisc, Bama, @ SMU, but they don't belong in the top 16 with 0 Q1s. Don't really see any other candidates for top 16.
Houston deos not have a win over a NCAA tourney team, no quad one wins and best win is Oregon, they probably should be on the bubble with this resume
dont be surprised to see Ohio State on this list...if they are, its a good sign for the Big 10
also Providence is going to be in the top 16 not sure why you are leaving them out
also Providence is going to be in the top 16 not sure why you are leaving them out
They don't really have much left on their schedule, either.
Quad 1
40 - @Memphis (they just lost by 10 at home to Memphis 6 days ago)
Quad 2
47 - SMU (lost by 2 at SMU just 9 days ago)
79 - @Wichita St
102 - @Tulane
Quad 3
83 - Cincy
117 - Temple
Personally as long as Harper plays, Indiana is the one game I am not concerned about at all. We own them
@bac2therac take a look at this gem....
Cupcake special.....and they did not get invited....committee should treat any 300 win as a 0
T-Page for North Carolina St. - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.
barttorvik.com
Cupcake special.....and they did not get invited....committee should treat any 300 win as a 0
@bac2therac take a look at this gem....
T-Page for North Carolina St. - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.barttorvik.com
Cupcake special.....and they did not get invited....committee should treat any 300 win as a 0
2019 final bracket
They did not fall out until final bracket
LAST 4 IN: TCU, ARIZONA STATE, TEMPLE, ST JOHN'S
LAST 4 OUT: BELMONT, NORTH CAROLINA STATE, INDIANA, ALABAMA
Post in thread 'BAC'S FINAL 2019 NCAA TOURNAMENT BRACKET PREDICTION' https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...nament-bracket-prediction.164746/post-3785982
TCU was 20-13
4-0 Q4
7-0Q3
6-4 Q2
3-9 Q1
7-11 in B12
Highest Wins Above bubble to not make field..(torvik)
Did you not have Oregon in the field?
4-0 Q4
7-0Q3
6-4 Q2
3-9 Q1
7-11 in B12
Highest Wins Above bubble to not make field..(torvik)
Did you not have Oregon in the field?
Thanks. Belmont was 1.4 wins above bubble.
Indiana had a 1-12 stretch in the year. If they beat Ohio State Round 1 of the B1Gt they would have gotten in over Belmont probably.
Indiana had a 1-12 stretch in the year. If they beat Ohio State Round 1 of the B1Gt they would have gotten in over Belmont probably.
I missed on TCU..had them in..instead Belmont got the bid
Yes and with 15 losses would have been the first to do so..likely 18-15..2 wins of MSU who I think was #1 seed
ASU grad 1984. Wore an ASU t shirt under a RU sweatshirt when I went to Insight Bowl
I forgot important stuff that I can't be forgetting, but I know stupid crap like where you went to school.
If RU doesn't go 2-2 vs
at PUR
at MIC
WISC
at Indiana
We are on the wrong side of the bubble
Let me put it a different way. Rutgers almost has to get to 19 wins to be in the tournament. 18-13 with out OOC SOS would be VERY unlikely to get in. You need 3-2 regular season to seal the deal
I have this odd feeling we're going to win the big 10 tourney
Disagree
Getting to 18 before tournament does it
I'm fine with all of this. I wish the NCAA included a mechanism for counting March wins more than February wins, and February wins more than January wins, etc. All of the other items are relevant and important, but how a team finishes should also be of value.
you cant'be 18-12.....at least please hope not.
18-13 is probably a 1 or 2 seed in NIT
BAC....math question
RU and XX play same schedule and have the same results except 6 games.
Laf, at UMASS, at DePaul, at Wisc, ILL and Purdue
We know what RU does
XX beats the easy 3 and loses the other 3
Is RU a few notches in front of XX or are they the same?
RU and XX play same schedule and have the same results except 6 games.
Laf, at UMASS, at DePaul, at Wisc, ILL and Purdue
We know what RU does
XX beats the easy 3 and loses the other 3
Is RU a few notches in front of XX or are they the same?
That's a great question. If RU isn't ahead of team XX (who by the way is on ESPN tomorrow at noon) this system is seriously flawed.
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