BACATOLOGY: NCAA ANALYSIS 3/7......NEW UPDATE 3/12 1PM PAGE 37
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basically...you want to have your bid wrapped up beforehand and if you dont you want to make your case
Rutgers really did not come to play with the level needed to match Iowa. I know Iowa is red hot but RU seemed unaware of the moment they were in. Not that hungry
Lunardi has SMU in and Va Tech to last team out. Rutgers remains on the last bye list. Lets see what he does in his big update tomorrow
Last bye is probably as good a place to expect to be right now.
Yup...I was naive, thinking only about the fact that a loss to iowa didn't hurt our resume much, but I wasn't thinking about the opportunities still out there for other teams to get hot and raffle off wins.
Jerry Palm is a former member of the Purdue marching band and a Purdue homer. Computer Science guy who hacked his way into bracketology. Dork.
www.hammerandrails.com
VIDEO: Interview With CBS Sports Senior Writer, Jerry Palm!
Jerry has one heck of a story from Purdue to now!
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the only school I am worried about is Va Tech...who i would put in now right now and keep smu out. Its going to come down to whether we can be seeded ahead of Xavier, Wyoming and Notre Dame and hope no bid stealer from A10
Palm is a loser. Last picked in gym class. Not good at his job. Horrible on TV. Complete joke at this pointJerry Palm is a former member of the Purdue marching band and a Purdue homer. Computer Science guy who hacked his way into bracketology. Dork.
VIDEO: Interview With CBS Sports Senior Writer, Jerry Palm!
Jerry has one heck of a story from Purdue to now!
If Tom Brady and Bill Gates had a kid?Jerry Palm is a former member of the Purdue marching band and a Purdue homer. Computer Science guy who hacked his way into bracketology. Dork.
VIDEO: Interview With CBS Sports Senior Writer, Jerry Palm!
Jerry has one heck of a story from Purdue to now!
What does that even mean? It's not like we have any more games left to improve our resume
its his lifeline....every bracketologist know the big changes take place on sunday morning when the final brackets go out
it was put on espn when they addressed the bubble. Moved Va Tech to last out with the win....not a full update or tweet, sure that is coming tomorrow morning
Joe on now
Indiana probably safe
Wake Forest out
SMU in the field
knocking on door Va Tech....
Oklahoma heartbreak of day...will stay first 4 out and likely go to NIT
no mention of RU so I am assuming staying safe in his bracket
Indiana probably safe
Wake Forest out
SMU in the field
knocking on door Va Tech....
Oklahoma heartbreak of day...will stay first 4 out and likely go to NIT
no mention of RU so I am assuming staying safe in his bracket
didnt mention but I believe he said earlier that they needed to win to get in. If we can have them lose and have Davidson win the a10 i like our chances
Tomorrow
Duke over Virginia tech
Iowa over Indiana
Arkansas over Texas A&M
Davidson over St Louis
Richmond over Dayton
(Want Davison winning A-10)
Houston over Tulane
Memphis over SMU
(Want Houston winning AAC)
If all of that happens …I think we get the first bye and the 11 seed in no Dayton
Every one of those events that doesn’t happen …puts us on the real bubble as first 4 in and out
Time to sweat
Duke over Virginia tech
Iowa over Indiana
Arkansas over Texas A&M
Davidson over St Louis
Richmond over Dayton
(Want Davison winning A-10)
Houston over Tulane
Memphis over SMU
(Want Houston winning AAC)
If all of that happens …I think we get the first bye and the 11 seed in no Dayton
Every one of those events that doesn’t happen …puts us on the real bubble as first 4 in and out
Time to sweat
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Putting Shack's post in chronological order, today's viewing guide...
1:00pm -- Texas A&M v. Arkansas (ESPN). Aggies likely in with another upset win here in SEC semifinal
1:00pm -- Indiana v. Iowa (CBS). Indiana likely already in but for optics, Iowa blowing out the Hoosiers wouldn't hurt us
1:00pm -- Davidson v. St Louis (CBSS). Need Davidson to win A10 tournament in the hopes that it's a one-bid league
3:00pm -- Houston vs Tulane (ESPN2). Tulane an unlikely bid thief so we want Houston here who are favored by 13.5 points
3:30pm -- Dayton v Richmond (CBSS) in the other A10 semifinal. Dayton is more likely to sneak into the field as an at large so rooting for Richmond here. Plus playing Dayton in Dayton would suck if it came to that
5:00pm -- SMU v. Memphis (ESPN2). SMU might be in anyway but a loss to Memphis will have them sweating tomorrow
8:30pm -- Virginia Tech vs Duke (ESPN), Hokies might be in even with a loss here but it'll be close
Other local games of note, Princeton plays Cornell at 11am in Ivy semifinal and St Peters and Monmouth face off in MAAC championship at 4.
1:00pm -- Texas A&M v. Arkansas (ESPN). Aggies likely in with another upset win here in SEC semifinal
1:00pm -- Indiana v. Iowa (CBS). Indiana likely already in but for optics, Iowa blowing out the Hoosiers wouldn't hurt us
1:00pm -- Davidson v. St Louis (CBSS). Need Davidson to win A10 tournament in the hopes that it's a one-bid league
3:00pm -- Houston vs Tulane (ESPN2). Tulane an unlikely bid thief so we want Houston here who are favored by 13.5 points
3:30pm -- Dayton v Richmond (CBSS) in the other A10 semifinal. Dayton is more likely to sneak into the field as an at large so rooting for Richmond here. Plus playing Dayton in Dayton would suck if it came to that
5:00pm -- SMU v. Memphis (ESPN2). SMU might be in anyway but a loss to Memphis will have them sweating tomorrow
8:30pm -- Virginia Tech vs Duke (ESPN), Hokies might be in even with a loss here but it'll be close
Other local games of note, Princeton plays Cornell at 11am in Ivy semifinal and St Peters and Monmouth face off in MAAC championship at 4.
Lunardi update from early this morning. Sign me up...
I’ve been thinking about this a lot since the game. A ton of people are pointing out our NET our 3 bad losses and saying we don’t belong. Sure, we would be the lowest NET ever to get in but each year is completely different to the next. Next year there may be no team higher then a 60 NET to get in. You have to compare Rutgers to the other bubble teams. Right now there are 13 or so teams battling for 5 spots. Compare those 3 teams and really Rutgers belongs to be part of those 5 teams. Will the committee believe it too? I hope so, but the “metrics” and “NET” arguments need to be thrown out the window.
I thought about it this morning
(3-3) Q1 0-0 Q2 0-1 Q3 0-1 Q4 3-1
@ Q2 DePaul 70-70, game winning 3, lost 70-73, vs Q4 Lafayette 51-50, game winning 3, lost 51-53, @ Q3 UMass 83-82, game winning 3, 83-85. Never saw 3 games consecutively decided by a game winning shot against the same team in a row, odds are astronomical, and no these games shouldn't have come down to the wire but is this really going to hold us back from getting in?
Since,
(15-10) Q1 6-6 Q2 3-3 Q3 4-1 Q4 2-0
That is a resume of a team in the tournament, even with a loss by 3pts @ Q2 Minnesota and 1pt loss @ Q2 Northwestern. We are couple of possessions, missed FTs, or ref bad calls in each of those 5 games away from being this team, with many freshman mistakes contributing to these losses.
(23-8) Q1 6-6, Q2 5-1, Q3 5-1, Q4 6-0
We are one of the best 36 at larges the committee can choose from, it's not even a real question looking at the resumes and watching some of the other bubble teams play that are available.
(3-3) Q1 0-0 Q2 0-1 Q3 0-1 Q4 3-1
@ Q2 DePaul 70-70, game winning 3, lost 70-73, vs Q4 Lafayette 51-50, game winning 3, lost 51-53, @ Q3 UMass 83-82, game winning 3, 83-85. Never saw 3 games consecutively decided by a game winning shot against the same team in a row, odds are astronomical, and no these games shouldn't have come down to the wire but is this really going to hold us back from getting in?
Since,
(15-10) Q1 6-6 Q2 3-3 Q3 4-1 Q4 2-0
That is a resume of a team in the tournament, even with a loss by 3pts @ Q2 Minnesota and 1pt loss @ Q2 Northwestern. We are couple of possessions, missed FTs, or ref bad calls in each of those 5 games away from being this team, with many freshman mistakes contributing to these losses.
(23-8) Q1 6-6, Q2 5-1, Q3 5-1, Q4 6-0
We are one of the best 36 at larges the committee can choose from, it's not even a real question looking at the resumes and watching some of the other bubble teams play that are available.
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Yeah but you have to consider the flip of our wins vs Purdue, Indiana, Iowa, etc that all came down to the last possession. Switch those three games and we're not sniffing the bubble
Yes, Nebraska finished 4th in the conference 20-11 overall and 13-5 in conference. However, like I said in my post above no need to compare RU to them. Our resume is much better and we are competing for a bid against other bubble teams, not past results.
Indiana, Iowa = Depaul, score was tied when the shot was taken or foul called, OT who.knows who wins.
Purdue = Lafayette, UMass
It's not exactly accurate.
The bottom line is and always has been a moving of the goalposts for the fans who truly don't want RU to win, they don't want have RU to have success and don't follow CBB in general.
If we had a more focused fanbase who just watches CBB, follows and understand what is a good team vs not, RU fans would understand the following as we moved through the season.
First it was lacking road wins....
Then it would be because we lost to Minnesota or Northwestern or Penn State on the road.
The negative RU fans ignored how important beating Maryland on the road was.....
The key to the season was getting out of Lincoln Nebraska with a win and then rallying in a loss to NW......it gave Mulcahy the boost of confidence to play better and RU ultimately earned its bid by winning 4 straight vs 4 ranked teams.
RU cemented the bid by winning at an improving Indiana team and defeated a Penn State program, that has not quit on a season, after getting destroyed by Nebraska on their home court 2 or so weeks ago.
We can have rooting interest on a couple more games today, but RU to me is in the field and there's always trolls who will say otherwise. Body of work against quality opponents is the overall factor, anyone ignoring that or talking about anything else, is just not aware of what other bubble teams have or haven't done themselves.
If we had a more focused fanbase who just watches CBB, follows and understand what is a good team vs not, RU fans would understand the following as we moved through the season.
First it was lacking road wins....
Then it would be because we lost to Minnesota or Northwestern or Penn State on the road.
The negative RU fans ignored how important beating Maryland on the road was.....
The key to the season was getting out of Lincoln Nebraska with a win and then rallying in a loss to NW......it gave Mulcahy the boost of confidence to play better and RU ultimately earned its bid by winning 4 straight vs 4 ranked teams.
RU cemented the bid by winning at an improving Indiana team and defeated a Penn State program, that has not quit on a season, after getting destroyed by Nebraska on their home court 2 or so weeks ago.
We can have rooting interest on a couple more games today, but RU to me is in the field and there's always trolls who will say otherwise. Body of work against quality opponents is the overall factor, anyone ignoring that or talking about anything else, is just not aware of what other bubble teams have or haven't done themselves.
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