Not sure which is a more stupid data point to consider sos or NET since neither prove that you have actually beaten anyone.
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Wally and the other CBS guys were aghast at Palm saying Rutgers was out
The Wally-Pike Long Island connection at work !!
Palm’s bracket from 76 still has rutgers last 4 out !
Rutgers will be one of the most talked about teams tomorrow so it will be great to expose that idiot even more when we get a bid.
We should pin this post on the board for today
I think it’s VT or ND. Both have two Q1 wins, and to put both in would be tough.
It’s the VT metrics vs the ACC record of ND.
Both scheduled poorly. I lean VT now
Bracket Dave has us as last 4 byes, same as Lunardi
Assuming today isn't a disaster for us with results elsewhere, thinking the Committee compromises and sticks us in Dayton.
Assuming today isn't a disaster for us with results elsewhere, thinking the Committee compromises and sticks us in Dayton.
I think an Indiana loss today and we still have a good case ahead of them. They’re pretty similar to our resume in where we’re bad at, perhaps not as bad, but where we are good we are a fair bit ahead of them. Plus we have the H2H win on their home court
I think we get 11 seed
We have so many more wins against projected field than other bubble teams
Not much difference between 12 and 11
As 12 win 1st game and get 5 seed
As 11 get 6 seed
Bracket Dave addressing the question I think we're all thinking about...
Oh wonderful lol. We need to hit some degenerate's parlay to get in!
This punishing for poor non-conference crap is a complete myth. The snubs about punishment for poor non-conference of past yester-years have ALWAYS been product of not beating enough At Large teams because of it. Think of those V-Tech snubs in the years it was Duke, NC and the rest. V-Tech didn’t beat the top heavy schools. And they scheduled an awful OOC. So they had no wins over solid NCAA locks because of the non-conference. They do not talk about non-conference slates when overall SOS is 31. At least I’m not ever recalling it,
Just wish Rutgers played like the top 15 team they have flashed they can be. all this talk be moot.
I truly they hope they get in and then get truly angry to prove the world they belong and go on a tear like during that 4 game gauntlet stretch this year
I truly they hope they get in and then get truly angry to prove the world they belong and go on a tear like during that 4 game gauntlet stretch this year
I’m also shocked that UNC is a lock. They should be in the bubble along with VT based on resume. Too much placed in that Duke win—yes yes they have 23 wins but their quad 1 resume is garbage
We should all agree that last night was a glorious couple of hours for our bubble hopes, watching five contenders fall in a short timespan.
not exactly understanding who you're talking about Hawk? Is it really true Rutgers fans doing this (yes people are doing it) or is it the talking heads out there that have biased interest in their league or network?
Not really seeing the folks here I consider Rutgers fans talking us down vs. defending the resume (of course x-a few hammering the OOC loses which is on the media cliff notes passed around). No not you Bac. You know I respect your work.
Need you to tweet back at them with your great thoughts on this.
I’m also shocked Michigan is even being considered for a spot. Clean resume yes…win/losses ugly.
Bac - after you come up with your new bracket can you give an idea where we would end up playing first round. They go..I go
Bac - after you come up with your new bracket can you give an idea where we would end up playing first round. They go..I go
Did Virginia Tech steal our bid with last second shot over Clemson and then a convincing win over North Carolina?
The A10 isn't getting three bids lol. I do think they get two even if Davidson wins the tournament.
You don’t want St. Louis winning the A-10 and then bids to Davidson and Dayton.
I don't burn a lot of energy on this stuff, it's not that complicated. I pointed out Palm was a fraud 2 years ago and again last year....with the SEC and CBS linked for years, he is a shill for the SEC and admitted he doesn't like RU.
I don't see how any sane RU fan, would mention the OOC schedule, unless you want to have 14 to 15 losses today instead of just 13. I would not change anything about the OOC schedule, unless you are maybe talking about 1 neutral site game.
The overall SOS is more than sufficient and we have played quality basketball for the better part of 3 months. I just think there are people ignoring how suspect some other leagues have performed and why those schools are getting a free pass.
To me, there are about 8 schools that will be seeded too high and once the matchups come out, don't be surprised if lower seeded teams are favorites over higher seeded ones....
I also don't believe in the seeding aspect as a strength of the team or rosters at play. I do think and maintain that from the low 7 seed through the middle 11 seeding range, there are about 14 to 15 teams that essentially look the same most years. The seeding of those games by the committee then has the job of figuring out not only the potential best 1st game matchup, but what could be a potential Round of 32 matchup, depending on storyline that may not be known, unless you are a diehard of a specific school.
The seedings to me aren't relevant or an indication of how close or not close you are to making the NCAAs. The 1st four matchups are also geared to generate ratings or discussion, so I don't put much stock into Dayton or no Dayton like others do, but if you want a storyline or what "should" happen, Michigan and Juwan Howard is the most interesting storyline for teams in the 11 to 12 seed range.
If I wanted to have a reason to watch Tuesday or Wednesday games, it would be because the talk would be Michigan, Howard and whatever potential next matchup could be if they win.
At the same time, in general, we all claimed that one day we wanted a chance to have RU on the Selection Sunday show. And I don't need to rehash the posts from 6 to 7 years ago where fans said they just wanted to make the Dance one time......it is now going to be 3 straight NCAA caliber seasons in a row, so some legitimate perspective is warranted. We earned our way and won tough games to do so.
Not to get ahead of ourselves but assuming we're an 11 or 12 seed that means 1st/2nd round we avoid the 1 seed pods and the 2 seed pods.
Based on who the projected 1/2 seeds currently are, a lot of which are western/southern teams, our chances of the first weekend being in the eastern half of the country are pretty good.
I'll go more into it after seeing how today plays out.
I created a list of wins and losses by referees and one name keeps standing out over and over. Why is it Bo Boroski has referee'd in 6 of our 13 losses, and the almost loss vs Ohio St. ONE and SIX(1-6). No one else more than 2 losses Bo Boroski there for a Rutgers game. He was there with Szelc for @ OSU meltdown last year, Pfieffer and Boroski there vs Iowa 75-77 last year, Boroski, Pfieffer, Cruz vs Iowa yesterday. According to some, there is nothing to see here.
Szelc is favor the home team ref, McNutt seems to swallow his whistle on everything, 0-2, Earl Walton was involved in 2 games where our exactly 15 pt 2nd half lead, 1 loss(UMass, 72-57 8:54), 1 win(vs PSU 12:54, +13 9:24) seems a little too coincidental. Cruz/Pfieffer bad together @Minn, @ Neb, Iowa yesterday, fine seperately.
Losses
1)@ DePaul Garrison, Riley, Szelc
--Rutgers 21 PFs, FTs 4-6 DePaul 13 PFs, 18-33
2)vs Lafayette Steve Honacki, Brian McNutt, Boroski
Swallowed their whistle, except for fouls on 3 PT attempts
3)@ UMass Alfred Smith, Young, Earl Walton
--RU 17 PFs, FTs 12-15, UMass 12PFs, FTs 21-27.
4)@ Minnesota McNutt(2), Pfieffer, Cruz
--Rutgers 12 PFs, Minnesota 11 PFs, 7 eligible swallowed their whistle
These 4 bothered me the most
5)@ Illinois Beaver, Szelc, Boroski(2)
6)@ Seton Hall Boroski(3), Roger Ayers, Jeffrey Anderson
7)@ PSU Garrison, Beaver, Eppley
8)Vs Md McJunkins, Daily, Carstensen
9)@ Northwestern Simpson, Green, Boroski(4)
10)@ Purdue Bill Ek, Bert Smith, Kimble
11)@ Michigan Young, Garrison, Carstensen
12)Vs Wisc. Daily, Green, Boroski(5)
13)Yesterday Iowa Boroski(6), Pfieffer, Cruz
Wins
Lehigh(73-70) Wells, Kimble, Cruz
Merrimack Rahir, Kashirsky, Scirotto
NJIT Jueneman, Beaver Eppley
Vs Clemson Ek, Garrison, Pfieffer
Vs Purdue(70-68)- Daily, Green, Carstensen
Maine Corbett, Kitts, Riley
CCSU Whetstone, Young, Scirotto
Vs Michigan Kueneman, Oglesby, Scirotto
Vs Nebraska *Cruz*, *Pfeiffer*, Green
@ Md Bill Ek, Scirotto, Carstensen
Vs Iowa(48-46) Wells, Eppley, Green
@ Neb(62-60) Wells, Cruz, Keuneman
Vs Mich St Carstensen, Pfieffer, Szelc
vs Ohio St(66-64) Garrison, Simpson, *Boroski*
@ Wisc McJunkins, Eric Curry, Beaver
Vs Illinois Wells, Ek, Szelc
@ Indiana(66-63) Daily, Kimble, Pfeiffer
Vs Penn St(59-58) Walton, Garrison, Szelc
Szelc is favor the home team ref, McNutt seems to swallow his whistle on everything, 0-2, Earl Walton was involved in 2 games where our exactly 15 pt 2nd half lead, 1 loss(UMass, 72-57 8:54), 1 win(vs PSU 12:54, +13 9:24) seems a little too coincidental. Cruz/Pfieffer bad together @Minn, @ Neb, Iowa yesterday, fine seperately.
Losses
1)@ DePaul Garrison, Riley, Szelc
--Rutgers 21 PFs, FTs 4-6 DePaul 13 PFs, 18-33
2)vs Lafayette Steve Honacki, Brian McNutt, Boroski
Swallowed their whistle, except for fouls on 3 PT attempts
3)@ UMass Alfred Smith, Young, Earl Walton
--RU 17 PFs, FTs 12-15, UMass 12PFs, FTs 21-27.
4)@ Minnesota McNutt(2), Pfieffer, Cruz
--Rutgers 12 PFs, Minnesota 11 PFs, 7 eligible swallowed their whistle
These 4 bothered me the most
5)@ Illinois Beaver, Szelc, Boroski(2)
6)@ Seton Hall Boroski(3), Roger Ayers, Jeffrey Anderson
7)@ PSU Garrison, Beaver, Eppley
8)Vs Md McJunkins, Daily, Carstensen
9)@ Northwestern Simpson, Green, Boroski(4)
10)@ Purdue Bill Ek, Bert Smith, Kimble
11)@ Michigan Young, Garrison, Carstensen
12)Vs Wisc. Daily, Green, Boroski(5)
13)Yesterday Iowa Boroski(6), Pfieffer, Cruz
Wins
Lehigh(73-70) Wells, Kimble, Cruz
Merrimack Rahir, Kashirsky, Scirotto
NJIT Jueneman, Beaver Eppley
Vs Clemson Ek, Garrison, Pfieffer
Vs Purdue(70-68)- Daily, Green, Carstensen
Maine Corbett, Kitts, Riley
CCSU Whetstone, Young, Scirotto
Vs Michigan Kueneman, Oglesby, Scirotto
Vs Nebraska *Cruz*, *Pfeiffer*, Green
@ Md Bill Ek, Scirotto, Carstensen
Vs Iowa(48-46) Wells, Eppley, Green
@ Neb(62-60) Wells, Cruz, Keuneman
Vs Mich St Carstensen, Pfieffer, Szelc
vs Ohio St(66-64) Garrison, Simpson, *Boroski*
@ Wisc McJunkins, Eric Curry, Beaver
Vs Illinois Wells, Ek, Szelc
@ Indiana(66-63) Daily, Kimble, Pfeiffer
Vs Penn St(59-58) Walton, Garrison, Szelc
Could easily see this happen. Richmond looked good too. Can see them also stealing a bid. Traditionally NCAA has liked the A10.
I would take Rutgers , Michigan is 8 and 13 in quad 1 &2 . It's great they played a tough schedule but think they need a better record then that against good teams.
Gotta love the SHU gnats on Twitter offering their thoughts on our prospects. Their latest fascination is a “weak B1G schedule.”
i am breaking down comparing about 20 resumes and this is ridiculous...Rutgers dwarfs them all...right from Memphis to San Fran to Notre Dame
if you do not look at the silly number and look at results its not even close
more to come stay tuned
if you do not look at the silly number and look at results its not even close
more to come stay tuned
