I heard on XM that one of the crappy early bowls where Houston got blown out still did better ratings wise than Kentucky-UNC. The one and done has killed college hoops.
BCS and now playoffs ruined bowls?
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Too bad...but we would still have made Garden State if you check there were only like 18-20 bowls back then mediocrity was not rewarded
Here are the numbers for Monday December 26th. The Quick Lane Bowl featuring Boston College vs UMD had excellent ratings - better than some of the Stanley Cup Finals games for this past season.
https://sportstvratings.com/lions-c...-tv-ratings-for-monday-december-26-2016/7177/
I'm right with you, I now know the dialogue to Road House, Crimson Tide, Alien, Shawshank and Tombstone...lol
Bottom line is when RU is not relevant I lose interest in college football...outside of the upcoming playoffs, I will watch no bowls.
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Oh come on Zap, you mean to tell us you don't get excited listening to Norman Chad during the World Series of Poker?
I much prefer Matt Damon playing KGB or James Bond against Le Chiffre.
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The playoffs seemed to have really killed the bowls, even more so than the BCS bowls. Now with players taking the bowls off for injury/NFL reasons, the bowls are really starting to get a pro-bowl feel to them. Even something like the rosebowl, I feel nobody cares about.
I wonder how the TV ratings for EPL and UEFA Champions League soccer are trending, compared to American football. Anyone have a clue?
Exactly!!! Its not about attendance at all. Its about TV. The shame is that makes us stuck with games like the Pinstripe Bowl. On the other hands I hope schools are no longer required to sell a certain amount of tickets.
And looking at the scores of these bowl games, there are a lot of close competitive fun games!!! Totally ruins the "Too many Bowls or not interesting" false narrative.
TV numbers suck in reality, they're good in comparison to other lousy sports alternatives on cable.
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Record TV numbers? There has been like 5 games played and most of them are in the middle of the afternoon. What, are there 7 people watching these games instead of the usual 6?
Maybe, but only for the same teams each year. You can count us out.
Hard to tell at this point, but would probably adversely affect recruiting.
At least now kids that want to change the culture here would have a positive experience by going to a minor bowl. Suppose we're no further along in 5 years, than a minor bowl would be great. At this point, we'd be happy to be getting extra practices and traveling somewhere.
TV eyballs my friend, same exact reason RU got a Big10 invite.
There are more people watching these games them watch NHL playoffs and regular season baseball
You can say they "suck" as much as you want but it really doesn't make it true. Troy vs Ohio blew out the average Yankee vs Red Sox game by about 30% more viewership. Yanks Sox average 2.2m for a regular season game. I mean that's crazy to me but that's the reality of it. La tech vs Navy also had much better numbers than Yanks-Sox. And Maryland vs BC blows away baseball. And these are the "bad" bowl games!
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That was also the only bowl we played in that had any sort of history. I believe the Insight Bowl was the old Copper Bowl which at least was around prior to the 21st century. Couldn't even tell you what it's called now. I've never liked the college football postseason. My interest in the NFL overall has declined over the past decade but to me nothing beats Dec/Jan in the pros. College is fun from Labor Day to Thanksgiving weekend then personally I am done with it.
You're not alone. I am not a fan of a college football playoff system - I preferred the old bowls, which I loved and I agree NY Day used to be the best day in college football. I don't really care about who's the "official" champion - half the fun was arguing about which top team was really the best.
Having said all that, with our spineless university presidents, we're not going back to that. The almighty dollar is in control, so we'll continue to see crappy bowl games on TV, because they must be making $$ for someone, and we'll continue to see playoffs and championship games, as they make $$ too.
There is always going to be a massive amount of Bowl games out there as long there is a Network (ESPN) to broadcast it and sell air time to their Advertisers.
ESPN is selling content and the Bowl games are prime, prime source of their advertising revenue.
When adding this to willing Bowl Sponsors and schools that commit to ticket sales the Bowls are here to stay in a big way !
ESPN is selling content and the Bowl games are prime, prime source of their advertising revenue.
When adding this to willing Bowl Sponsors and schools that commit to ticket sales the Bowls are here to stay in a big way !
I've only watched one bowl so far, last night's whatever bowl with Indiana and Utah. It was a fun game to watch. Maybe it's because I don't really take any time off this time of year, but I really just focus on the NY6 and playoff, and follow a couple of favorite teams if they're in a bowl.
The FCS playoff is so much more exciting to me, at least if you have a team/vested interest in the hunt. In a field of 24, anything can happen, and cinderellas have a real shot at a title. Although essentially impossible, I think it would be really fun to have a similar setup at the FBS level. Do away with CCGs, open up a field of 16 or 24, and give WMU or Utah a shot at Alabama or OSU.
The FCS playoff is so much more exciting to me, at least if you have a team/vested interest in the hunt. In a field of 24, anything can happen, and cinderellas have a real shot at a title. Although essentially impossible, I think it would be really fun to have a similar setup at the FBS level. Do away with CCGs, open up a field of 16 or 24, and give WMU or Utah a shot at Alabama or OSU.
As Katey Sagal used to tell the Terry Rakolta (sp?)-led critics of "Married ... with Children," if you don't like it, don't watch.
Not sure why this is worth discussing every single year. These bad bowls might draw weak numbers, but those numbers are higher than all but the best college basketball games would draw. If the cost of putting them on ever exceeds the revenue from them for more than a year or two, they will start to go away.
And anyone who believes the only thing that matters is the championship must have hated at leats one of the "major" bowls back in the good old days, because there's no way more than three -- and usually two -- had a bearing on who was voted "national champion."
Me? I'd still prefer the old days where conference champs went to specific bowls, and those bowls tried to line up the best opponents. THEN you can pick your top four and have semis and finals. I know the presidents don't like the idea of going to Jan. 15, but it's only TWO teams playing that late.
Sorry, but I miss Big 8 (now Big 12, I guess) fans throwing oranges on the field in November, and I miss the Pac-12 and Big Ten CHAMPIONS going to the Rose Bowl. (WTF is USC doing in that game? Didn't even win its freaking division.)
Not sure why this is worth discussing every single year. These bad bowls might draw weak numbers, but those numbers are higher than all but the best college basketball games would draw. If the cost of putting them on ever exceeds the revenue from them for more than a year or two, they will start to go away.
And anyone who believes the only thing that matters is the championship must have hated at leats one of the "major" bowls back in the good old days, because there's no way more than three -- and usually two -- had a bearing on who was voted "national champion."
Me? I'd still prefer the old days where conference champs went to specific bowls, and those bowls tried to line up the best opponents. THEN you can pick your top four and have semis and finals. I know the presidents don't like the idea of going to Jan. 15, but it's only TWO teams playing that late.
Sorry, but I miss Big 8 (now Big 12, I guess) fans throwing oranges on the field in November, and I miss the Pac-12 and Big Ten CHAMPIONS going to the Rose Bowl. (WTF is USC doing in that game? Didn't even win its freaking division.)
From a personal perspective, as of 9pm on 12/29, I have not watched one play from any of the bowl games.
It's better programming than two guys yelling at each other about the NFL or NBA... which is most of what ESPN is when they don't have a live event. My TV has been on almost constantly every afternoon and evening this week. It's college football! I won't get to see this again till September! No, it's not like the bowls used to be in the '70s or '80s. Just think of it as an extra OOC game tacked on to the end of the season. (Though I'd get rid of 4-8 bowls to avoid the need for 5-7 teams.)
I like the idea of fewer bowls even though that would reduce RU's chance of playing in one. Teams should not be rewarded for going 5-7.
Even now the top ranked team should be playing a Home game .Each time they win ,a home game until the NC to be played at a top venue. Full house of home fans .
I do have to admit that I have gotten bored with too much CFB.I watch very selectively.I try to watch where I have any kind of interest at all. IE:Arky for Southern Gentleman but only short spurts.TG for Remotes.Click-click-click.
I watch it ALL. Every damn play of every damn bowl. I look to see who the NJ players are on each roster, I look at the coaching staffs for connections to Rutgers, I look at their styles of offense and defense, I look at their kickers, punters, long snappers, I look to see who's officiating, I look to see who's doing the color and play by play. I look for the trick plays , the coaches who frequently go for it on 4th down (Fitzgerald).
There will be 8 long months before the next real College game starting in about 10 days. Do you guys tell your wives and girlfriends....'hey too much sex, let's do something else' ? lol
There will be 8 long months before the next real College game starting in about 10 days. Do you guys tell your wives and girlfriends....'hey too much sex, let's do something else' ? lol
Abro, I'm impressed. Most guys your age wouldn't have the stamina to satisfy both their wives and girlfriends during every bowl game.
Back when there were a lot fewer bowls, it was viewed as an honor to be in one. Now it is just another game to be played if you are not in one of the top tier ones like the Rose Bowl. They often say it is a "reward" to the team for a successful season. How can having a .500 season be considered a success?
The fact that some schools won't even participate in many of the lower bowl games (beneath their dignity) speaks volumes. Figure on the trend of players who have pro aspirations passing up these games as a much bigger thing in the future.
The fact that some schools won't even participate in many of the lower bowl games (beneath their dignity) speaks volumes. Figure on the trend of players who have pro aspirations passing up these games as a much bigger thing in the future.
Spot in. Ratings are great. Better than any NCAA hoops game and better than the Stanley Cup Finals. Might be no one in the stands, but people watch on tv. Fact is, ESPN can make more money on bowls than any other programming. They will not decrease the amount of bowl games.
Name the schools who are turning down bowls. I can't think of any who turned a game down this year.
USC is ranked 9th in the country. They are also playing the best football in America north of Tuscaloosa right now.
I have not seen a team turn down a bowl in a few years. I remember Notre Dame did recently. With the conference tie ins it is tougher for teams to do so. I can see a 6-6 team doing so if they are chosen as a fill in for a conference who can't fill their bowl tie ins. This would probably only happen if accepting a bowl would lead to a financial loss after a bad season.
Example would be: East Coast team that does not travel well gets invited to the New Mexico or Boise Bowl. With about 2-3 weeks to prepare and sell tickets. The team may struggle to sell 5 or 6k tickets and it may cost 250k to travel to the game. If the team is a Buffalo, Temple, or even Rutgers it may not be financially feasible to go. where they may lose 250k after the bowl payouts. If there is an internal scandal the team may also turn down the game because of the scandal.
