Beat Michigan and we could be 8-0 going into OSU
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And as an expert on both topics, Whittingham no longer believes the "defense wins championships" adage is true. At least not in college football.
"I believe you've got to have a quality defense to compete for a championship, but if you look at the analytics, offense has really taken the forefront for what is more conducive to winning football games," Whittingham said Friday.
"I think it was, offense is responsible for 50 percent of your outcome, defense 35 percent and special teams 15 percent. In that regard, in order to win a championship, you better be pretty good on offense."
I think that will be increasingly true in all sports, as they are reengineered to make sure Joe Sixpack feels he is entertained (Joe does not like 1-0 pitcher's duels or 9-6 nailbiters in football)...
We are doing things differently in that the defense was built first, and now we are turning our attention to the offense. By ‘25, this offense should average 30 points per game, given the significant upgrade in talent at the WR and TE positions. But for the next two years, hoping to get to at least 25 points per game, while allowing our opponents fewer than 20 points per game.
A Greg Schiano team is going to play tough defense, and run the ball.
It’s a free year because this team is still learning how to win. We haven’t won since 2014, and are counting on the development of mostly 2 and 3 star players to move forward. Michigan and Wisconsin have more talent than we do, but we have enough talent to beat both.
Penn State and Ohio State are out of reach for now, but we are quickly closing the talent gap with them. Every other game is an opportunity.
So from where I stand:
Not likely
Penn State
Ohio State
Difficult but possible
Iowa
Michigan
Wisconsin
Maryland
Should win
Northwestern
Virginia Tech
Temple
Wagner
Indiana
Michigan State
This is an excerpt of your June 10th post regarding the next 2 seasons being "free" Al.
"there probably isn’t enough talent to win, though we will do our best. I see our record in the range of 4-6 wins."
So a month ago according to you we were a 4-6 win team that "There probably isn't enough talent to win", and a month later it's "there is enough talent to compete this year and next".
I'm just confused Al because you keep contradicting yourself. If the next 2 years are "free" so you can try to buy Schiano a little more time have at it, but don't follow up a month later saying 8-0 going into OSU if you don't want those increased expectations.
Al, please put down the Crack Pipe... Michigan's third squad would route us by 30
Sorry, banning is UnAmerican, too much of that lately. Not what my Uncle and so many others fought and died for in WW2.
We need a functioning offense in order to win. No proof that we have that yet (only hope and speculation).
UM is one of the best teams in the country, but let's not get silly.
With that in mind are you still drinking Bud Light? lol, I'll stop and behaveSorry, banning is UnAmerican, too much of that lately. Not what my Uncle and so many others fought and died for in WW2.
Unfortunately I wasn't being silly. Michigan's third team is still littered with 4 stars. I think our defense could hold it's own but until proven otherwise I have no faith in our offense.
LMFAO, believe me, it isn't just Bud Light, it's all their products, never again. One is banning the other is protesting. 😇
hope and speculation has been the sign of Rutgers fanhood since Burns left except for a short time in the mid to late 2000s
Better to look at the situation and hope for sucess despite odds against it, rather to give up because the odds are against you and accept failure is coming .
Al might go overboard, but at least he isn't the doom and gloom type.
one should be allowed to drink what they like and boycott the products that they don't like.
Do you have a problem with that???
Maybe time for you to hit the Happy Valley board, they seem to have the type of posters you might want to have a drink with.
Don’t have a problem with it, just calling out the irony. Sick Penn state burn! Man I wish I could come up with such an original rebuttal… lol
No, they wouldn’t. We led Michigan’s first team by 3 points going into halftime last year. Schiano never lost to Michigan when he had similar talent at Ohio State. We usually play them tough.
You’re not understanding the nuance of the situation. IF we beat Michigan, there’s more than enough talent to win, though that remains to be seen.
And that “functioning” offense always disappears at the midpoint of the schedule when they have to play real teams.
That's yet to be determined. Based on last season, no we don't.
Once again you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. It's a free year because we don't have the talent to compete, yet we are talented enough to play even with Michigan and possibly beat them on our way to an 8-0 start. You are giving Greg a free pass if he goes 0-8 to start the season, but we still have enough talent to go 8-0. Just plain silliness at this point.
He's trolling you (and everyone else). Just like I do on weather thread. :)
The offense has disappeared in the past because we’ve lacked depth. This year our depth is significantly improved, which should allow us to sustain a competitive offense.
Starting the season 0-8 is silly.
We have enough talent to compete.
The question is do we have enough talent to win. A Michigan victory would show we have enough talent to win. A 4-1 Start for September looks likely to me, with 3-2 possible. 5-0 would be amazing.
Once a fool, always a fool
Let's review the offense from worst to best position group:
Offensive Line
- Lost best lineman
- Moved RT to LT yet the same player stayed at RT all last year when we needed a LT. No guarantee he can play the position otherwise he would have moved during the bye week last year.
- New RT barely played last year on OL that struggled. Only the starter because no one was brought in.
- Most returning starting OL easily pushed around.
- Sutton's availability is unknown based on premium discussions and it is slim he returns to old form.
- Very little 2nd string experience.
- No depth behind first three wide receivers - 2 transfers & Long.
- Dremel is likely the starting slot receiver. Big miss in the portal here when there were tons available.
- One transfer WRs has an injury history.
- Other transfer WR is coming from D2 and has never dealt with CBs running stride for stride with him or the physical play of B1G DBs.
- Lots of freshman receivers who will need time to develop.
- Modest improvement with transfer
- Langan has yet to be able to show he can be a good receiver or blocker partly due to the OL and OCs last year. Jury is still out here.
- Younger guys are total unknowns due to injuries or lack of playing time.
- Wimsatt is healthy but for how long playing behind the worst or 2nd worst OL of 2.0.
- Accuracy is still a question mark as he was throwing balls short still during the spring game. Weather had nothing to do with those throws.
- Has Simon grown from the mistakes we saw last season?
Where is the illusionary depth you keep claiming? A lot of question marks across the board here. Unfortunately, this doesn't even factor in the inevitable injuries that occur yearly. The drop off is steep in many of the position groups if a starter goes down.
Potential does not equal depth. That is the mistake you keep repeating in all your responses.
The problem with Al is that he is so optimistic before the season. When the season starts and we suck, it brings this board down because people wanted to believe him. Nothing wrong with being positive and dreaming like a fan. Just stop with the absolutes and be realistic.
And let's not forget he then also posts this stuff on all the boards of our opponents as well.
I'll stick with Al. I'd rather read optimistic, though totally unrealistic posts than the constant "We sucked last year and we're not going to be any better this year" posts that are submitted constantly.
No one knows what's going to happen. However, it's a little disheartening to see Al being attacked and ridiculed for his outlandish predictions but posters who predict a 1-11 season or that we won't beat Wagner seem to never get called out for these which are just as ridiculous.
As I said in a previous post, we can be anywhere from 3-9 to 7-5 this season.
No one knows what's going to happen. However, it's a little disheartening to see Al being attacked and ridiculed for his outlandish predictions but posters who predict a 1-11 season or that we won't beat Wagner seem to never get called out for these which are just as ridiculous.
As I said in a previous post, we can be anywhere from 3-9 to 7-5 this season.
Al, it's YOU who is not understanding the situation. For the love of god do we really need to go back to the RutgersAl track record to go through delusions?
This is just sad Al, please get a girlfriend.
Al is one of those guys who insists talent is pretty much the only important thing for winning. If we had enough talent to compete with Michigan at this point you would think last season wouldn't have been the dumpster fire it was.
I’ve been saying it for a decade plus lol. Nothing is a guarantee but it’s the avenue with the most potential.
If we plan on making any noise, the offense needs to be way more productive.
Plus it's just more entertaining to watch. This has been known for a long time. Only our leadership is stuck in a time warp.
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