Nobody can deny that this is the greatest thread title on any Rutgers message board, ever.
Okay, hitting the beach, hope it's as good as yesterday...
Okay, hitting the beach, hope it's as good as yesterday...
Beat Michigan and we could be 8-0 going into OSU
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That OP is a fool.
He continues to move the goal post.
When we go 3-5 after the first 8 games you will hear firm him “next year our offense will really produce next year”. Total BS.
Its pissing into the wind at this point.
This conversation needed to happen 20 years go when we could have been ahead of the curve.
It's the dumb meathead thinking of "my defense is good so I need to limit my offensive opportunities for mistakes and run out the clock."
The winning philosophy is "I trust my defense. So we can take chances on offense and look to score more. When it doesn't work out on occasion, the defense can hopefully hold the line."
You do realize that’s 9 conditional statements, right? Why even say something if it’s based on 9 things happening?
If there’s a 70% chance of each of those events transpiring in isolation, the odds of them allllll working are .7^9 which puts us at 8% probability. Which is also way too optimistic.
(Some of us) are here to have a grounded in reality discussion
being realistic before season even begins can be a downer if you leave hope for improvement out.
For me being a fan isn't saying "oh well another losing year coming up".
It's : "this year Rutgers will be a winner nothing can stop that now."
After the season starts that's when realism is applied, but hope before every game still shines through because upsets happen.
After a loss it not feeling so confident or happy time, until a few days later looking for reasons to win against the next opponent be it powerhouse U or cupcake city.
Realistic is how I bet, Fantasy Island is where I live before each game and my version doesn't have off track betting. So I can feel as iotimistic as I want and keep realism at bay when I think about the game coming up.
I'll never get upset seeing an overly optimistic outlook for Rutgers football's season or individual games.
But I do get disappointed in seeing doom and gloom predictions on the season coming up, claiming that's the realistic way to look at RU FB
Talk is cheap. How much are you giving to NIL so that we can get the personnel so that we can take chances on offense? Ohio State boosters are spending millions to get the best offensive talent money can buy. Penn State Boosters are doing the same.
We’ve got posters running their mouth expecting offensive pipedreams, rather than supporting nil to make dreams reality. The philosophy we’re following gives us the best chance for success. We’re going to run the ball and play tough defense. That should give us a good chance against teams with similar or worse talent. And we should have a fighting chance against teams with better talent.
What are you doing to help Rutgers win Championships?
Show me a Championship team, and I’ll show you a group of alumni who ponied up to make it happen. We are not going to win Championships because we don’t have Championship caliber support from the fanbase. It’s as simple as that.
It's the next stage of Al's grieving process (blame).
You brought up Championships, Plum Street, not me. So How do you expect to win Championships without Championship caliber support?
On that point, I don’t disagree.
But you’re all over the place . You post that we can be 8-0 and very much alive for a title . Then in the same thread you post we can’t win because our fans stink. Stop changing your story
You do understand that you are an ambassador of Rutgers athletics on these boards, yes? For better or worse. I know you understand that. So why would you insist on being the delusional character in the story all the time?!
These should be conditional probabilities, not independent events. The biggest factor is how well does Wimsatt play. If he plays well, which I’m counting on, his play will have a halo effect on the rest of the team, making the other events more likely.
You didn’t see me posting about Championships. Look at the schedule. In November, we play Ohio State, Iowa, Penn State, and Maryland. We’ll be lucky to get one of the four.
I still recall the post from year 4 of G.S. part 1 where someone posted (I think it was Treeman) "Greg is a dead man walking. At least that's how I see it."
While that build sucks, people need to continue to be patient. I know some fans are incapable of such things. But their posts are just more fun to re-examine a few years later.
Oh yeah ??? You’re full of it . There is a search feature on this board and easy to call you on your BS
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/there’s-no-reason-why-we-can’t-win-a-national-championship-one-day.256490/
Great memory.
This is what Schiano told WFAN.
“But I feel like we’re close. You know, I tell our people that the pipeline is about three quarters of the way full. And you know, this ’24 class we get in here next year, – that’ll really fill the pipeline and then what’s happened in our system is once it starts coming out the other end of the pipeline, it just keeps flowing.”
“And that’s what we got to do. We got to get that thing full. Here. We got some really good players that are now 21 or 22 years old, which is a lot different than being a good player at 18 or 19 years old. To win in the Big Ten you need men. And I think that we’re getting to that stage where our best players are actually becoming men.”
Greg Schiano tells Big Ten Network that the Rutgers football rebuild is turning a corner: 'I feel like we're close'
Greg Schiano believes Rutgers football is making progress in their rebuild.
rutgerswire.usatoday.com
If Greg was rebuilding in that era, then I would agree, a coach deserved five years, however, it is a different world now in the transfer portal era, a competent new coach can turn his whole roster over in 2-3 years. Sanders is the extreme at Colorado where he is doing it in his first year, but 4 years into a rebuild in this era, no more free years, six wins should be the minimum given one of the easiest OOC schedules we will ever have, plus opening with Northwestern,
I just don't see that happening on a large enough scale in a place like Maryland or New Jersey.
I know that I've never given a dime of donation to college athletics, and never will. It's just not where I think I should put disposable money. I would rather give it away to help people who need it, and/or to do something more constructive. And I don't think I'm atypical for the places I've lived.
I hate to say this, but sometimes I think it would be best to forget about football NIL money (losing battle) and just focus our limited resources on the basketball program (where it would likely make a difference).
Interesting. It does seem like a more reasonable goal. And what team has progressed so far, so fast, as Rutgers recently?
I still expect to get blasted for my comment about the dough, but that's how it is for me...
Everybody gets to decide what they want to do with their money. I give my amount because football success is important to me. What I have a problem with, is people expecting Championships and then giving nothing. That literally makes no sense.
In over 50 years following this program I have never ran across a fellow alumnus who expected championships from the football program. I currently work with a lot of fellow alumni and none of them to a person expects championships, what most expect based on the resources spent on this program is a program that wins enough games to be bowl eligible based on its play on the field most years. That's it, that would make most of us very happy. And after four years in the transfer portal era that is not too much to ask for from the current coach, it really isn't.
Who is expecting championships lol? Fans want, oh, I don't know, functioning offense and a nice upset win once in a while.
the replacements were pretty good . South Florida and Louisville had top 25 teams Cincy was a respected program.
Looking for ways to put down the winning years sounds good, but doesn't hold water and really isn't the way to prove Rutgers sucked back when it was winning..
If it was as bad as you claimed, the minor bowl games it played would have resulted with a loss, not winning most of them
The teams that came in were nowhere near as good as Miami and Virginia Tech in those years.
Classic RutgersAl thread. Talks about the team getting to 8-0, then says we’ll be lucky to win one of the last four games on the schedule.
Al is a treasured asset on this board.
Al is a treasured asset on this board.
It fits with his tendency to say we have enough talent to compete with everyone except Ohio State yet we don't so we need much more NIL money or we can go 8-0 but also don't expect much for the next two years. Having it both ways.
look at this thread, he keeps the ball rolling whether you like what he says or not.
The responses proves he's being listened to, even if not being agreed with.
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