Big 12 expansion vote in summer?

[yesrutgers01]

UConn is going to have trouble because of football. And their football is not in better shape then our BB. Our BB needs a influx of cash and it could be fixed quickly. UConn could put money into a football stadium on campus but would still be left out of the recruiting battles and viewership.

UC would be a great addition to B12

UCF- well, they have the program going the right way, winning seasons, big bowl games, a great HC in O'Leary...they have surpassed us as a program...oh wait, never mind... Lol their QB graduated...

 

[Panthergrowl13]

If the Pac-12 goes to 16 schools, they are going east into the Big 12 Conference..

Oklahoma is already looking at leaving the Big 12, and I think they may be pursuing the SEC for membership.

When Texas loses their $15 million per year from the LHN, they will be looking at a more profitable conference.(B1G).

Texas has everything that the B1G would want Athletics,Academics,AAU membeship and the State of Texas.

I think Oklahoma knows Texas will be leaving the Big 12 and are actively looking at their exit strategy.

No ACC school will leave to go to the Big 12 (Least stable Conference).

When the Big 12 was looking to add schools (before ACC invite to Pitt) Pitt was one of the first schools considered. Pitt had no interest in the Big 12, not a good geographical fit (see West Virginia).



HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[Steve91562]

If it wasn't for the GOR, this would happen.

VTech and NC State to the SEC as well.

The ACC commish and the tiny private schools in the ACC weren't stupid in forcing the $45,000,000 GOR.

When the GOR is up I foresee the big state schools in the ACC leaving the rest behind. UNC/VIR to the B1G

I don't think so. I think in 10 years it'll be the B12 that is vulnerable, whether they expand or not. They are the conference with the least historical stickiness. Both UNC and VA are flush with cash and are founding members of the ACC. I don't seem them going anywhere. I foresee the potential 'big, bad wolf' for the ACC being -- not the B10 -- but the SEC. They could pluck pretty much whoever they wanted out of the ACC, with the possible exception of the two above. I do see Tx and Ok going elsewhere eventually, but the strongest move the B12 could make would be expanding with 4-6 teams, as there are really no great candidates for a 1-2 team expansion.

 

[RUSONIC]

Big 12 is going away, If I was Iowa State I would start talking to the AAC or Mountain West. Oklahoma president is pushing this expansion message so when Texas says no to giving up the LHN, he can say he tried but Texas is to greedy. Texas will then go to the conference that will allow them to keep the LHN (most likely ACC because they are the ESPN Bitch). and everyone else looks for a empty seat when the music stops.

 

[NickyNewark51]

Big 12 is going away, If I was Iowa State I would start talking to the AAC or Mountain West. Oklahoma president is pushing this expansion message so when Texas says no to giving up the LHN, he can say he tried but Texas is to greedy. Texas will then go to the conference that will allow them to keep the LHN (most likely ACC because they are the ESPN Bitch). and everyone else looks for a empty seat when the music stops.

You read it the way i see it too..

 

[RUScrew85]

UConn's advantage will be from November to March with hoops. Imagine how the networks will salivate for 2 regular season games between UConn and Kansas. UConn vs Baylor in ladies will be big matchups too.

Is UCONN's men's BB team really still a front line program?

 

[RUScrew85]

Uconn will not be in a major conference for football again. They've got a long, long, long way to go and should have never been in the BCS Big East. They did not build the infrastructure, fan base, or resources needed to compete at this level when they jumped from FCS not long ago. There are a lot more dues to pay until they get a real look from a real conference.

Hope you are right.

 

[miker183]

I think UConn did a good job of competing with the teams/players they had.

But, I strongly agree, that they have not made any commitments to meaningful improvements of their facilities or stadium. These are not insignificant shortcomings.

 

[BuggsyRU]

reading some B12 stories,a media study the B12 had commisioned listed Uconn with a NY viewing share,and ahead of BYU on expansion list based on media share(alledgedly)..little do they know what a dump Uconn football facilities are.
Heres another article that came out today 2/17/16, saying B12 has same problem, as before,schools they could add really wont make them more money,and Texas longhorn network deal with ESPN(allready losing money) is huge hurdle.. this article paints picture it will not happen.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...st-interest-for-big-12-football-not-to-expand

Not a UCONN fan at all, but it is not correct calling UCONN's football facilities a dump. Their practice facility is light years ahead of our bubble. Their weight room/training facility is still ahead of ours "RIGHT NOW as well....but that will soon change when football takes complete ownership of the Hale Center and the expansion/renovation is completed.

Now their stadium, on the other hand, is a HUGE check against them. Seating only 40K and an hour away from campus.....it's getting older and more out of date as the days go by.

Right now, their football stadium would challenge Wake Forest and BC as the worst stadium in a P5 conference (if UCONN was actually in a P5 conference.)

 

[MozRU]

Do you really think UNC is going to leave Duke and the biggest college basketball rivalry in the country? The state and fan bases won't allow that

These guys believed BBall mattered too

(UNC and Duke can play OOC dude)

 

[cicero grimes]

Big 12 is going away, If I was Iowa State I would start talking to the AAC or Mountain West. Oklahoma president is pushing this expansion message so when Texas says no to giving up the LHN, he can say he tried but Texas is to greedy. Texas will then go to the conference that will allow them to keep the LHN (most likely ACC because they are the ESPN Bitch). and everyone else looks for a empty seat when the music stops.

i agree with your thoughts. It would be very interesting for OU under your scenario to say now that they are leaving when the GOR is up. It would reopen all the conferences up to reallignment talk.

 

[aged_wolverine]

The B12 needs to seriously figure out how to balance the power for long term sucsess (The B1G needs to, too but without expanding).

WVU is on an island and it will hurt them if they don't get eastern help. Opening up Ohio with Cincy is a start.

The B12 really scr*wed up not taking the Ville. The B12 with Cincy, Pitt the Ville, and WU would have been a GREAT B12 North.

Um, things are good as is. You got the top names getting yearly trips to the east coast. Lots of good recruiting to be had. You have a whole vacuum in the western conference that several teams can grow into. Iowa got it last yr. Need 3 or 4 teams to be viable pretty much yearly, so their division champ gives a bump to the east's champ yearly. Of course that goes both ways if they have a great team go out of that side.

If anything, I think they would split Md/Rutgers, but you wont see Michigan getting stuck playing MSU yearly, and cross divisional with OSU while other teams get tame slates. Although as long as Harbaugh is coach, I don't care who we play.

 

[Nosoj]

i agree with your thoughts. It would be very interesting for OU under your scenario to say now that they are leaving when the GOR is up. It would reopen all the conferences up to reallignment talk.

Obligatory "If OU wants to leave, they'll leave no matter the status of the GOR" post.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...ge/myth-of-the-big-12s-grant-of-rights-010313

http://sportspolitico.com/2015/02/16/will-grant-of-rights-protect-big12-from-future-raids/

 

[G- RUnit]

If the Pac-12 goes to 16 schools, they are going east into the Big 12 Conference..

Oklahoma is already looking at leaving the Big 12, and I think they may be pursuing the SEC for membership.

When Texas loses their $15 million per year from the LHN, they will be looking at a more profitable conference.(B1G).

Texas has everything that the B1G would want Athletics,Academics,AAU membeship and the State of Texas.

I think Oklahoma knows Texas will be leaving the Big 12 and are actively looking at their exit strategy.

No ACC school will leave to go to the Big 12 (Least stable Conference).

When the Big 12 was looking to add schools (before ACC invite to Pitt) Pitt was one of the first schools considered. Pitt had no interest in the Big 12, not a good geographical fit (see West Virginia).



HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Texas like the SEC schools is scared of cold weather though. It's a problem.

 

[Nosoj]

If the Pac-12 goes to 16 schools, they are going east into the Big 12 Conference..

Oklahoma is already looking at leaving the Big 12, and I think they may be pursuing the SEC for membership.

When Texas loses their $15 million per year from the LHN, they will be looking at a more profitable conference.(B1G).

Texas has everything that the B1G would want Athletics,Academics,AAU membeship and the State of Texas.

I think Oklahoma knows Texas will be leaving the Big 12 and are actively looking at their exit strategy.

No ACC school will leave to go to the Big 12 (Least stable Conference).

When the Big 12 was looking to add schools (before ACC invite to Pitt) Pitt was one of the first schools considered. Pitt had no interest in the Big 12, not a good geographical fit (see West Virginia).



HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Not according to this guys sources:

DOES OU WANT THE BIG 12 TO SURVIVE?

Yes, conditionally. The most important decision-makers (David Boren, Joe Castiglione, Bob Stoops) want that. But they also want the Big 12 to be strong.

WOULD OU BE INTERESTED IN THE SEC AND VICE VERSA?

The SEC absolutely would be interested in adding the Sooners. But I never have detected any interest in the SEC from anyone official at OU. Not from the academic side. Not from the athletic administration side. Not from the football side. Fans and media are infatuated with the SEC. No one from inside the university.

WOULD OU BE INTERESTED IN THE BIG TEN AND VICE VERSA?

The Big Ten would love to add OU. But there’s a huge catch. The Big Ten only admits schools who are in the Association of American Universities.**
...
If OU ever was invited to the Big Ten, the answer would almost surely be yes, even if the Big 12 was shining like the sun.

http://newsok.com/article/5472760



** I don't think this is a deal breaker, as I said before. I think it's more of "Preferred" qualification than a "Must have".

 

[rutgersguy1]

If the Pac-12 goes to 16 schools, they are going east into the Big 12 Conference..

Oklahoma is already looking at leaving the Big 12, and I think they may be pursuing the SEC for membership.

When Texas loses their $15 million per year from the LHN, they will be looking at a more profitable conference.(B1G).

Texas has everything that the B1G would want Athletics,Academics,AAU membeship and the State of Texas.

I think Oklahoma knows Texas will be leaving the Big 12 and are actively looking at their exit strategy.

No ACC school will leave to go to the Big 12 (Least stable Conference).

When the Big 12 was looking to add schools (before ACC invite to Pitt) Pitt was one of the first schools considered. Pitt had no interest in the Big 12, not a good geographical fit (see West Virginia).



HAIL TO PITT!!!!

The PAC12 already tried to expand with a bunch of B12 schools and it didn't work. What's changed? They have the GOR and the LHN still exists. I don't see much chance of anyone leaving until the GOR is near expiration. Could it be challenged? I'm sure it could but would the raiding conference and exiting schools really have the stomach to put it to the test? I don't see many college presidents or BOGs wanting to get involved in a big legal fight and would rather wait until the GOR is near expiration.

It's still about Texas and what they end up doing. OU already tried once to leave on its own and got rejected. They also possibly have Ok. State around their neck too.

I don't see how expansion really changes any of the dynamics for the B12. All the things in play now still will be in play near the end of the GOR whether they expand or not. They had their chance to make a big Larry Scott like play and they missed it. When FSU/Clemson were waffling I said they should have tried to grab a whole swath of ACC teams and make it feel like leaving without really leaving. It might not have worked like Scott's play didn't but they didn't even try. Now to me they are in the weakest position going forward unless the B10 or SEC go after the ACC giving them another opening. If neither of those things ever happen then I think the B12 is the weakest because of its narrow geographic focus. So to me they basically have to rely on others for them to have a chance to improve themselves as conference going forward.

 

[Virginiarufan]

Do you really think UNC is going to leave Duke and the biggest college basketball rivalry in the country? The state and fan bases won't allow that

They and UVA will jump to the B1G like rats off a sinking ship as soon as the GOR is up especially if FSU and Clemson go shopping. They have $40M reasons to do it. UC and BYU to the B12.

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

They and UVA will jump to the B1G like rats off a sinking ship as soon as the GOR is up especially if FSU and Clemson go shopping. They have $40M reasons to do it. UC and BYU to the B12.

I think UVA is a natural fit for the B1G, I've always thought the only two schools that are worth to expand are uva and v tech...

 

[Virginiarufan]

Tech and UVA would make a nice package. There are about 8 million people in Virginia and many of them are either UVA or Tech fans. It would mean a lot of tv sets and a great recruiting area. It would also put a dagger into the ACC that they couldn't recover from. Both schools are research universities and are in a contiguous state. Tech isn't AAU but I'm sure the B1G wouldn't hold it against them.
Virginia is a southern state and is ACC loyal. The school administrations, not so much. It remains to be seen what happens in a few years.

 

[Nosoj]

It wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong, but I can't imagine they'd both get offers unless a lot of other programs already said no.

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

Tech and UVA would make a nice package. There are about 8 million people in Virginia and many of them are either UVA or Tech fans. It would mean a lot of tv sets and a great recruiting area. It would also put a dagger into the ACC that they couldn't recover from. Both schools are research universities and are in a contiguous state. Tech isn't AAU but I'm sure the B1G wouldn't hold it against them.
Virginia is a southern state and is ACC loyal. The school administrations, not so much. It remains to be seen what happens in a few years.

Just want to make it known I do NOT think the B1G will further expand and I do not like the idea of 16 team conferences, there are already too Many years of not playing certain teams even with a 9 game conference schedule. Just, IF they were to expand I think the two Virginia schools have the most to offer with the least drawbacks...and are more natural fits from an academic and sports program view.

 

[Dpgru]

I love expansion conversations like this. It is like hot stove baseball where everyone talks trades that almost always never happen. Expansion will be done when it is going to generate more money. If conferences can generate more cash without expanding they won't do it. It is always about the money.

 

[graystork]

If I were Swofford and the ACC I'd be real concerned about this. Right now the Big 12 is third in the amount of money it distributes every year. Hear that Louisville? Pitt? Could be the beginning of the end for the ACC. And then the Big Ten swoops in and takes Virginia and North Carolina, and the SEC puts the last nail in the coffin by taking Virginia Tech and NC State. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. What poetic justice to see Swofford unemployed and the ACC down the tubes.

 

[e5fdny]

Just want to make it known I do NOT think the B1G will further expand and I do not like the idea of 16 team conferences, there are already too Many years of not playing certain teams even with a 9 game conference schedule. Just, IF they were to expand I think the two Virginia schools have the most to offer with the least drawbacks...and are more natural fits from an academic and sports program view.

We agree on the bolded but not the rest. And I say it should be a 10 game B1G sked if it was up to me....5 home, 5 away.

And if we have to go to 16...UVA yes and one from the Midwest for the B1G West...Kansas, Mizzou, Oklahoma(?)

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

We agree on the bolded but not the rest. And I say it should be a 10 game B1G sked if it was up to me....5 home, 5 away.

And if we have to go to 16...UVA yes and one from the Midwest for the B1G West...Kansas, Mizzu, Oklahoma(?)

who is "we" lol

I agree that a 10 game conference schedule would be great, and increase the value of season ticket packages in my opinion, and I HATE the aruement that schools cannot afford to have less than 6 or 7 home games per year, why can't their be some type of revenue sharing amongst the conference schools?

My question to you tho is...do you think there is any political concerns where a school like Oklahoma or Kansas won't leave for another conference without their state university counterparts (I.e. Kansas state or okie state?)

I do not think Mizzou leaves the SEC no matter how poor of a fit it might be...

 

[topdecktiger]

I HATE the aruement that schools cannot afford to have less than 6 or 7 home games per year, why can't their be some type of revenue sharing amongst the conference schools?

What do you mean, why can't there be some type of revenue sharing? What makes you think Ohio St or Michigan have any interest in helping out Indiana or Northwestern? The blue blood schools are not doing anything to make it more likely for the other schools to challenge their position.

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

What do you mean, why can't there be some type of revenue sharing? What makes you think Ohio St or Michigan have any interest in helping out Indiana or Northwestern? The blue blood schools are not doing anything to make it more likely for the other schools to challenge their position.

This was more of a valid arguement for the 9 game conference scheduled realizing some teams only play 4 conference home games while others play 5, in order to smooth out the revenue over time, I don't understand why the big ten cannot institute some type of sharing for that one extra home game that some teams will play each year...if they did that, more teams would have an incentive to schedule home and homes with elite Power 5 teams rather than being "forced" to schedule lower level FBS schools as only home games...

 

[e5fdny]

My question to you tho is...do you think there is any political concerns where a school like Oklahoma or Kansas won't leave for another conference without their state university counterparts (I.e. Kansas state or okie state?)

None after we were told over and over how A&M couldn't leave Texas or vice versa.

That to me was the big one. Once that occurred I wasn't too worried about the others.

 

[topdecktiger]

This was more of a valid arguement for the 9 game conference scheduled realizing some teams only play 4 conference home games while others play 5, in order to smooth out the revenue over time, I don't understand why the big ten cannot institute some type of sharing for that one extra home game that some teams will play each year...if they did that, more teams would have an incentive to schedule home and homes with elite Power 5 teams rather than being "forced" to schedule lower level FBS schools as only home games...

The reason the Big Ten doesn't do that is because the schools won't agree to it. Like I said, Ohio St and Michigan aren't giving up any money from that extra home game. No way, no how. Those schools draw 100,000 a game. Let's say the average ticket is $50. Think about how much money they make from that one game. You would have to pry that money out of their cold, dead hand. That's especially true given the fact that schools in the other leagues pocket all that money.

On a side note, these schools still scheduled lower-level teams, even with the 8-game schedule. They did that precisely because of the money from the extra home game. Back in 2006, when the NCAA went to the 12-game schedule, the thinking was, the 12th game would allow for more big-time matchups. Instead, what happened? Most schools still kept playing cupcake teams. Why? Because they wanted the revenue from the extra home game more than they wanted a big-time OOC game.

 

[Nosoj]

who is "we" lol

I agree that a 10 game conference schedule would be great, and increase the value of season ticket packages in my opinion, and I HATE the aruement that schools cannot afford to have less than 6 or 7 home games per year, why can't their be some type of revenue sharing amongst the conference schools?

My question to you tho is...do you think there is any political concerns where a school like Oklahoma or Kansas won't leave for another conference without their state university counterparts (I.e. Kansas state or okie state?)

I do not think Mizzou leaves the SEC no matter how poor of a fit it might be...

You mean like sharing all the TV and bowl revenue equally? Or sharing 35% of the gate receipts? http://www.thegazette.com/2013/10/25/in-big-ten-conference-they-split-the-gate

Even then, is it more beneficial for the league to have more games in front of 30,000 people in Evanston or 110,000 in Ann Arbor?

As to your second question, I don't think that Oklahoma or Kansas would have to bring their counterparts to, say, the Big Ten if they got the invite. I do think there would have to be a viable power 5 conference for them to land in, however. The article I posted earlier in the thread basically said as much for Oklahoma.

 

[e5fdny]

We agree on the bolded but not the rest. And I say it should be a 10 game B1G sked if it was up to me....5 home, 5 away.

And if we have to go to 16...UVA yes and one from the Midwest for the B1G West...Kansas, Mizzou, Oklahoma(?)

I agree that a 10 game conference schedule would be great, and increase the value of season ticket packages in my opinion, and I HATE the argument that schools cannot afford to have less than 6 or 7 home games per year, why can't their be some type of revenue sharing amongst the conference schools?

Agree with you on the bolded.

And I'm fine with 6 games every now and then if I always have at least 5 B1G HOME games. But never less than 6 home games overall. No thanks.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

The Big 12 should take a serious look at them if they are going to expand. One of the problems with the conference was that most of the talent came from Texas and all the Texas schools played in the South division which helped keep the North schools weak. Ohio has good high school football and can help teams in the North (if they do another North-South split) remain competitive.

Cinci would be good for WVU as well. Add Cinci and SMU and Memphis and BYU (which would be a problem with Sunday events) or Houston. Call it a day.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

None after we were told over and over how A&M couldn't leave Texas or vice versa.

That to me was the big one. Once that occurred I wasn't too worried about the others.

People continue to forget this;

This only happened because a) the Texas legislature was not in session and b) because Texas U did not bolt, and the b12 was not under threat of dissolution, so all other Texas schools were guaranteed a place at a P5 conference...had either of those not been the case, A&M might have faced a serious threat to its move...it was all a very fortunate string of events that allowed A&M to finally and thankfully escape that disaster of a conference and divorce the steers once and for all...hallelujah!!!

That safeguard is not really there anymore...and the state of Oklahoma will not let its ONLY two P5 players separate...period. I would guess the state of Kansas will do the same.

Finally people are foolish to think that three Texas P5 schools (Tech, Baylor and tcu) are simply going to let the steers dissolve their tie-ins...SIMPLY NOT HAPPENING...EVER!

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

People continue to forget this;

This only happened because a) the Texas legislature was not in session and b) because Texas U did not bolt, and the b12 was not under threat of dissolution, so all other Texas schools were guaranteed a place at a P5 conference...had either of those not been the case, A&M might have faced a serious threat to its move...it was all a very fortunate string of events that allowed A&M to finally and thankfully escape that disaster of a conference and divorce the steers once and for all...hallelujah!!!

That safeguard is not really there anymore...and the state of Oklahoma will not let its ONLY two P5 players separate...period. I would guess the state of Kansas will do the same.

Finally people are foolish to think that three Texas P5 schools (Tech, Baylor and tcu) are simply going to let the steers dissolve their tie-ins...SIMPLY NOT HAPPENING...EVER!

Thank you for the context of the Texas a&m split from UT, my thoughts were UT was probably offered a spot with a&m rather than Mizzou but turned it down because their own network is more valuable...but your reasoning (perhaps facts) makes sense...but agree on the Oklahoma and Kansas splits probably not happening

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

Cinci would be good for WVU as well. Add Cinci and SMU and Memphis and BYU (which would be a problem with Sunday events) or Houston. Call it a day.

Honest question, what would Memphis and SMU bring to the Big 12 from a financial perspective other than more "mouths to feed" (spread the revenues) that would make the big 12 want to add these teams? Are they in big tv markets that the conference isn't already in? Do they have flourishing football programs?

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

You mean like sharing all the TV and bowl revenue equally? Or sharing 35% of the gate receipts? http://www.thegazette.com/2013/10/25/in-big-ten-conference-they-split-the-gate

Even then, is it more beneficial for the league to have more games in front of 30,000 people in Evanston or 110,000 in Ann Arbor?

As to your second question, I don't think that Oklahoma or Kansas would have to bring their counterparts to, say, the Big Ten if they got the invite. I do think there would have to be a viable power 5 conference for them to land in, however. The article I posted earlier in the thread basically said as much for Oklahoma.

my thoughts are that for one weekend a season all 14 teams would split the gate receipts to smooth out everyone's revenue in order to get over the "need for 7 home games" in hopes that this would encourage scheduling more home and homes with other power 5 conference teams...I understand the limitations but I'm curious if the conference commissioner has the power to encourage this to the presidents

 

[Nosoj]

my thoughts are that for one weekend a season all 14 teams would split the gate receipts to smooth out everyone's revenue in order to get over the "need for 7 home games" in hopes that this would encourage scheduling more home and homes with other power 5 conference teams...I understand the limitations but I'm curious if the conference commissioner has the power to encourage this to the presidents

That's not going to encourage Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State to schedule more home and homes with other power 5 teams. You're taking money out of their pockets, so they're more likely to schedule Eastern Michigan and Akron as home games to make up for that.

You're the commissioner of the Big Ten. Do you want Ohio State playing home and homes with Notre Dame and Texas, or do you want Indiana playing home and homes with Vanderbilt and Syracuse?

 

[jason21psu]

my thoughts are that for one weekend a season all 14 teams would split the gate receipts to smooth out everyone's revenue in order to get over the "need for 7 home games" in hopes that this would encourage scheduling more home and homes with other power 5 conference teams...I understand the limitations but I'm curious if the conference commissioner has the power to encourage this to the presidents

The need for 7 home games goes beyond the $$ for the athletic department at a lot of universities, like PSU, where a home football game weekend has a dramatic effect on the local economy; bars, restaurants, hotel rooms, etc. At PSU there's probably $4 mil profit to the AD for a home game, why would they want to give any more of that up?

 

[imbazza2]

...They will do something for self preservation....UC,BYU and UConn possibly in the mix....don't count them out.[/QUOTE]

Big 12 needs to expand first into Florida. UCF gives them the largest University in the country, big alumni base, destination city in Orlando, and large TV market. Makes a lot of sense.

WVU is on an island and it will hurt them if they don't get eastern help. Opening up Ohio with Cincy is a start.[/B]
The B12 really scr*wed up not taking the Ville. The B12 with Cincy, Pitt the Ville, and WU would have been a GREAT B12 North.

As for the island factor UC solves it some what with WVU. A pair of Florida schools are TV eyeballs and no island issues like WVU. But sorry to say UConn makes another island issue and a low TV eyeball problem for FB but not BB and we all know the B12 is football centric. This is why a pair of Florida schools is logical. Or they could crap in their own bed and go Texas team like Houston and add Cincy for WVU. Money can talk in this league and even UConn will not be able to throw that much money at the B12 to get them to look at UConn. Politics money and backroom deals will rule the B12 so I go with UC for WVU and Houston (with greased palms and good ole boy back room agreements). Why not the FL duo. outside of a FSU jumping ship (not with GOR in place) UCF and USF just do not have enough punch TV appeal with all the other name FL schools competing for eyeballs

 

[e5fdny]

That safeguard is not really there anymore...and the state of Oklahoma will not let its ONLY two P5 players separate...period. I would guess the state of Kansas will do the same.

We'll see...

The need for 7 home games goes beyond the $$ for the athletic department at a lot of universities, like PSU, where a home football game weekend has a dramatic effect on the local economy; bars, restaurants, hotel rooms, etc. At PSU there's probably $4 mil profit to the AD for a home game, why would they want to give any more of that up?

Exactly.

Would I prefer the 7th game not be a 1AA school ever? Sure.

But if push comes to shove, I would rather have that and the $$$ than one less game.