Big 12 Expansion
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Stop saying Nebraska is leaving.
#1 They are getting a full pay out
#2 Texas hasn't gone and *&%(*& themselves as Nebraska would request first.
Nebraska is NEVER EVER going back to any place Texas calls the shots.
That's like Maryland going back to the ACC, when Duke and UNC (%*^*()*^(% themselves and then ^%*&^%*&^* each and every fan, then we'll listen and kick them in the teeth.
Now that the networks will pay more for the 10 member Big 12 Conference, I am assuming they (TV Networks) have negotiated out the clause that they will pay pro-rata for further expansion thus ending any possibility of team additions to the Big 12 until the contract expires in 2025.
Additionally, there was no change in GOR expiration date.
I think many Big 12 members will be having discussions with other Conferences in anticipation of an implosion.
Time will tell.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Additionally, there was no change in GOR expiration date.
I think many Big 12 members will be having discussions with other Conferences in anticipation of an implosion.
Time will tell.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Not necessarily.
They just don't want the money to expire.
If you keep the money Texas now receives from the LHN intact, they could leave to another Conference.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
The B1G has absolutely no interest in funding Kansas and their weak football program. Kansas may lose their AAU membership soon. Kansas has an acceptance rate of 93%, which is significantly worse than any B1G school.
Every Power 5 Conference has an interest in Texas.
But no one will take them because of that. Their refusal to either share or cancel the LHN is the #1 reason the PAC 12 passed on them a few years back
You take Texas and Oklahoma, then you go for the home run and go for Notre Dame. You now need a 4th and THEN you take Kansas.
This is how you expand south, if you can expand east no further (meaning the ACC stays together). Personally I like Maryland being the last team in the south east region.
That would give you a very strong even divisions
B1G West :
Texas
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
Minnesota
Kansas
B1G East:
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Indiana
Purdue
Maryland
Rutgers
I don't know the ACC can be raided further with the exception of Notre Dame, the conference pay out of the above B1G would be so insane, Notre Dame might accept it.
Every school in the Big Ten will be making more than Texas with our new TV Contract and so will Rutgers once we are vested. That includes the money from Big 12 TV and LHN combined.
ACC was at least smart enough to get the TV network deal done and extend the GOR. That saved them.
The BIG 12 just doomed themselves.
Nebraska is leaving :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
None of what I said was serious.
What I find is sad, Texas is holding the rest of the conference hostage. They are going to run out this Long Horn Network, ESPN won't renew it and they will jump the Pac12 of B1G with open arm.
And the Pac12 and B1G will be stupid enough to take them.
Along with Penn State and Mich, I beg they lose every game they play in, and then hire the wrong guy over and over again.
And the Pac12 and B1G will be stupid enough to take them.
Along with Penn State and Mich, I beg they lose every game they play in, and then hire the wrong guy over and over again.
Not saying it is a certainty but ESPN may agree to pay Texas the amount of money they have been receiving for the duration of the LHN contract if they join the ACC Conference with Notre Dame. ESPN will incorporate the LHN into the ACCN with Notre Dame and be able to continue the revenue steam they have been receiving. ESPN can turn the current net loss from the LHN into a net positive for ESPN. ESPN would have a financial incentive to make it happen. ESPN may actually be able to pay Texas more money than they are currently receiving under the terms of the ESPN/LHN contract.
Would not be at all surprised if it happens.
I actually think the ACC Conference would be their best landing spot (National Championship hopes).
Time will tell.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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anon_ivydyf0amkzay
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The steers are a pus-infected boil on the ass of college athletics...but I am biased… Just a bit[winking]
I agree and that is the reason Texas, Oklahoma and possibility Kansas will be looking to leave the Big 12.
When the current Big 12 contract expires the difference in money (new Big 12 contract) Texas will be receiving with respect to other conferences will be dramatic and Texas (ego) will not stand for that.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
That maybe the dumbest scenario ever on here, on so many levels. Zero chance of happening.
First Texas isn't going anywhere. Especially to the ACC.
ESPN is paying them and can't force them to do anything.
Texas runs the Big XII. No way in he'll are they giving up there power to a basketball conference.
No conference wants them with LHN $ unless they share..... and they aren't sharing.
Must be some good drugs in Pittsburgh
Just like we got in the Big Ten because the dollars made sense, Texas will be welcome if they want in. It's not personal, it's business. They'll have a stronger negotiating position though and could conceivably play all the power conferences against each other for the right to add them,
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anon_ivydyf0amkzay
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Just what any conference wants...to have Texas come in and dictate preferential treatment...yeah...that'll happen! LOL
I agree that it won't happen, but it's not a dumb scenario. You're just saying it's dumb because you don't like the ACC.
Its way beyond that!! ACC doesnt want them. Texas isnt leaving for any conference as they basically own the conference they are in. Its dumb on a 100 different points. And I dont hate the ACC. Its a great basketball conference.
Texas doesnt make finacial sense, as much of their value goes right into their pockets through the LHN
The "right" to add them? Texas needs a conference more than any conference needs Texas.
Not sure it's been mentioned but the Big 10 has a thing about teams have to be in a boarder state with an existing member. You can't take OU without Kansas and you can't take Texas without OU. Of course unless you took Missouri and that isn't going to happen.
Hopefully expansion is done forever. They have already ruined the sport with expansion and all the pussification rules.
Hopefully expansion is done forever. They have already ruined the sport with expansion and all the pussification rules.
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First, take a klonopin.
Deep breath.
Now, point out where what I said has anything to do with your response.
Texas needs a conference more than a conference needs Texas??? Your quote correct? Texas doesnt need a conference period.
The scenario was about Texas shopping for a new conference, whether now or in the future. The poster I responded to seemed to think conferences were going to vie for the "right" to add Texas, as if Texas didn't need a conference and could sit back and wait for the sweetest deal to roll in. You think they're going to go independent because that's working out so well for Notre Dame? Or, they need a conference more than any conference needs them.
I don't even think we're having the same argument. I'm arguing with one guy about one thing, and you're having a hysterical WhiteBus argument about something totally different on the side.
Im directly arguing against your quote no matter who it was directed to. Texas doesnt need a conference. And hysterical argument? Your quote is hysterically inaccurate. Maybe you need to go on meds. Or get a better understanding of the power of Texas Football. You do realize they are the only school in the country with their own network paying nearly $20 million a year. And still get a full share of conference money.
It's not dumb. It's simply not going to happen, but it's not dumb. If you would make a similar argument when people say "Texas to the Big Ten," or "Texas to the SEC," then that's different. However, your only issue with this is when the ACC is mentioned.
So you're saying Texas can afford to go independent?
How's that working out for the "Power of Notre Dame" football? Because all I keep hearing is that ND is going to continue having a helluva time trying to get into the playoffs, which is really the ultimate goal of a football factory and really where all the interest and money comes from. Sure, Texas could probably do okay on its own financially, but really don't think the headaches of going independent are worth it in today's climate.
But add five more question marks to your next post and I'll really start to think you're right [eyeroll]
It has nothing to do with the ACC. Texas is the king of there own conference. They get a full share of conference money plus another $18+ million from there own network. No one is going to take them unless they share, they aren't. Yes it's dumb to think they go anywhere. Oklahoma isn't going anywhere either as they have Ok State issues. They wont leave unless they go as a pair. Nobody wants OSU.
Where did I say they are or need to go independent? They dont. Oklahoma isn't going anywhere either. If when the time come they Big XII will go poaching. Not the other way around.
Dude you are way off your game today.
It's not "dumb." Texas tried to get into the Pac 12 twice. So yeah, we already have examples that Texas would at least consider leaving. And I'll again point out, I've never seen you make the same remarks to someone suggesting Texas would leave for the Big Ten or Pac 12.
Texas would only leave with Oklahoma and with complete profits of the LHN.
Do you really see them leaving now, giving up $18 million? I see no logical argument where they have to do either.
Off my game? How would you know, you're not even at the stadium.
Here's an ESPN 60-minute replay for ya,
Guy said (and I'm copying and pasting for complete clarity here), "Just like we got in the Big Ten because the dollars made sense, Texas will be welcome if they want in. It's not personal, it's business. They'll have a stronger negotiating position though and could conceivably play all the power conferences against each other for the right to add them."
See, it was already assumed in that quote that Texas was shopping conferences. You want to say it never will, and that's your right (even though it already has done so with the PAC). I don't know whether it will or not (though I can find some evidence ; ), but I do know I disagree with the contention that Texas will have any kind of upper hand in negotiations. All 4 other power conferences know that Texas needs A conference more than any single conference needs Texas. The PAC, arguably the conference that could use Texas the most, already denied them, what makes anyone think conferences (besides the B12) need Texas that much?
If Texas wants to play that kind of hard ball, it'll end up independent.
Lol, at the B12 "poaching." Who are they poaching? When you're auditioning every G5 team with a pulse out there, you're officially not poaching big game. You're desperately hunting squirrels on your neighbor's lawn in a bid to survive.
Not even at the Stadium? Your clueless. And way, way off your game. Maybe join me at the Scarlet Walk one of these days. I never miss one. I'll bring you a beer. I was in the Scarlet lot at 5am this past Saturday. Have pictures to prove it.
When the gor's expire along with the playoff contract FSU is gone. SEC and Big XII are landing spots. Pitt will be a target to satisfy WVU and both Virginia and VTech could go as a pair. Football is king of the $ and football teams are tired of playing in a basketball conference. Notre Dame will jump out and half join some other conference because that's the a-holes they are.
Texas and the Big XII just had BYU and others begging to join. The Big XII will outlast the ACC because of football.
Do you go every game? Why havent we met? No matter what side of an argument your on , I have met most all in here. But not you. And im very easy to spot as I visit all Stadium lots before the Scarlet Walk. My constant companion is very easy to spot.
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You still are having your own argument and have yet to say anything that refuted my very basic point, but I'm clueless?
Lmao, @ BYU and others. Yes, BYU, the one good obtainable property remaining, which is independent and thereby not "poachable," and a bunch of squirrels from around the country that just want to be a part of any P5 conference.
We'll meet back here in 10 years to see how many of your other predictions come true. Pretty sure ship has sailed on the B12 poaching any legit P5 now that it's an unstable sh*tshow dominated by one self-serving team, but I'm sure that'll change in the future.
Your whole storyline is straight outta 2013, and it never happened. ACC approved GOR, became more stable than the B12, and has even been better at football the past few years to boot. B12 has become a joke and shell of its former self.
I will take you up on that beer .. better yet, the stronger, hallucinigenic brew you're drinking tonight [cheers]
Lmao, @ BYU and others. Yes, BYU, the one good obtainable property remaining, which is independent and thereby not "poachable," and a bunch of squirrels from around the country that just want to be a part of any P5 conference.
We'll meet back here in 10 years to see how many of your other predictions come true. Pretty sure ship has sailed on the B12 poaching any legit P5 now that it's an unstable sh*tshow dominated by one self-serving team, but I'm sure that'll change in the future.
Your whole storyline is straight outta 2013, and it never happened. ACC approved GOR, became more stable than the B12, and has even been better at football the past few years to boot. B12 has become a joke and shell of its former self.
I will take you up on that beer .. better yet, the stronger, hallucinigenic brew you're drinking tonight [cheers]
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