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The Pac12 made a mistake on those hacks, Colorado.

The B12 needs to find a way financially to make Boise work. Top to bottom a very well run school and football program.

They are pasting Virginia right now. Beat Washington. Lost to BYU on a Hail Mary.
 
The Pac12 made a mistake on those hacks, Colorado.

The B12 needs to find a way financially to make Boise work. Top to bottom a very well run school and football program.

They are pasting Virginia right now. Beat Washington. Lost to BYU on a Hail Mary.
Expansion is not over. Boise will be in the PAC at some point.
 
The irony of this board is that most of the coaches that Boise hired over the years wouldn't have been a big enough name. I remember several people saying Charlie Strong needed head coach experience before we should ever consider him...well he got his HC experience kicking our butts at UL. My point is that there are mid-level coaches ready to step up and lead a program, we just have to identify him and get him on board.

Pernetti hired a lifetime position coach that never coached beyond the 1AA level until he got here, and some are defending him, while at the same time shooting down coaches that have MUCH better resumes than Flood ever had.
 
The irony of this board is that most of the coaches that Boise hired over the years wouldn't have been a big enough name. I remember several people saying Charlie Strong needed head coach experience before we should ever consider him...well he got his HC experience kicking our butts at UL. My point is that there are mid-level coaches ready to step up and lead a program, we just have to identify him and get him on board.

Pernetti hired a lifetime position coach that never coached beyond the 1AA level until he got here, and some are defending him, while at the same time shooting down coaches that have MUCH better resumes than Flood ever had.
Few points...
No Boise coach has succeeded after he left.
Can we wait until strong gets to 500 without TB. Maybe Gary Nova makes Strong a bust?
Only the morons are down on MAC coaches.
 
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But they succeed at Boise...if we hire a coach that succeeds while he is here, I couldn't care less about what he does after he leaves. I'd be grateful simply because he elevated our program.

I agree with your comment about MAC coaches, it's not called the cradle of coaches for nothing, yet somehow some of us believe that they are beneath us, even though half that conference would spank a team that has been coached by Flood for 4 years.
 
But they succeed at Boise...if we hire a coach that succeeds while he is here, I couldn't care less about what he does after he leaves. I'd be grateful simply because he elevated our program.

I agree with your comment about MAC coaches, it's not called the cradle of coaches for nothing, yet somehow some of us believe that they are beneath us, even though half that conference would spank a team that has been coached by Flood for 4 years.
You are missing the point. Historically, they have succeeded at Boise and nowhere else. I'm a non P5 guy but you can't help but question the past.
 
The Pac12 made a mistake on those hacks, Colorado.

The B12 needs to find a way financially to make Boise work. Top to bottom a very well run school and football program.

They are pasting Virginia right now. Beat Washington. Lost to BYU on a Hail Mary.
Based on play....sure
Money? Not so sure.
 
Maybe I am missing the point, Boise has hired coaches that have succeeded at their school, mission accomplished. How do you fault Boise because they failed after leaving for other places?

Boise just kicked the sh!t out of another P5 school with a coach that many would've said wasn't ready for a big time job. Just saying.
 
The irony of this board is that most of the coaches that Boise hired over the years wouldn't have been a big enough name. I remember several people saying Charlie Strong needed head coach experience before we should ever consider him...well he got his HC experience kicking our butts at UL. My point is that there are mid-level coaches ready to step up and lead a program, we just have to identify him and get him on board.

Pernetti hired a lifetime position coach that never coached beyond the 1AA level until he got here, and some are defending him, while at the same time shooting down coaches that have MUCH better resumes than Flood ever had.

Harsin the present coach has ties to Boise from 2001 to 2010 (2006 to 2010 was the OC ) Returned as HC in 2014
Was Arkansas State's HC in 2013
From Dick Koetter in 1998, Boise has hired from within when their HC left for another school until Peterson left for Washington, instead of hiring someone on Peterson's staff they went for Byran Harsin who was Peterson's OC before taking the Texas co: OC position in 2011 then becoming Arkansas State's HC

Peterson's DC went to Washington with him and his OC took the Detroit Lion's WR coach position, which could be why
Boise reached out to Harsin instead of moving up from within.
 
Harsin the present coach has ties to Boise from 2001 to 2010 (2006 to 2010 was the OC ) Returned as HC in 2014
Was Arkansas State's HC in 2013
From Dick Koetter in 1998, Boise has hired from within when their HC left for another school until Peterson left for Washington, instead of hiring someone on Peterson's staff they went for Byran Harsin who was Peterson's OC before taking the Texas co: OC position in 2011 then becoming Arkansas State's HC

Peterson's DC went to Washington with him and his OC took the Detroit Lion's WR coach position, which could be why
Boise reached out to Harsin instead of moving up from within.
It's undeniable that Boise has made the right hires over the years...Rutgers one the other hand has made ONE good hire in the past few decades. Why are we so confused about why we can't sustain success?
 
Based on play....sure
Money? Not so sure.
Any talk of Boise EVER being admitted to the PAC12 is absolutely ridiculous. On field performance has virtually nothing to do with conference affiliation, otherwise there's not a chance in hell that we would have ever gotten into the B1G. BSU will never be a PAC school because there's no appreciable revenue to be derived from broadcast rights (at least, not as currently marketed, simply because nobody actually lives in Idaho); institutions with academic integrity (primarily Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA and UW) simply don't want to be associated with an institution that students at the University of Idaho derisively refer to as a "trucker's school" (obviously, referring to a school existing simply for the benefit of those seeking a CDL--in this regard, I lived in the Coeur d'Alene for a time and heard this phrase numerous times from multiple perspectives); and, BSU, as a state college in a small and, relatively poor, state, just doesn't have the resources necessary to compete with some of the world's most acknowledged and elite public and private universities that are members of the current PAC12. End of story.
 
Any talk of Boise EVER being admitted to the PAC12 is absolutely ridiculous. On field performance has virtually nothing to do with conference affiliation, otherwise there's not a chance in hell that we would have ever gotten into the B1G. BSU will never be a PAC school because there's no appreciable revenue to be derived from broadcast rights (at least, not as currently marketed, simply because nobody actually lives in Idaho); institutions with academic integrity (primarily Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA and UW) simply don't want to be associated with an institution that students at the University of Idaho derisively refer to as a "trucker's school" (obviously, referring to a school existing simply for the benefit of those seeking a CDL--in this regard, I lived in the Coeur d'Alene for a time and heard this phrase numerous times from multiple perspectives); and, BSU, as a state college in a small and, relatively poor, state, just doesn't have the resources necessary to compete with some of the world's most acknowledged and elite public and private universities that are members of the current PAC12. End of story.
This. People think that a conference that turned down Oklahoma and Oklahoma State is going to take Boise State?

In the USNWR rankings they are not even ranked as a national university. They are a Western Regional University, and only ranked around #60 out of those, making their peers such notables as Northwestern Nazarene University and California State University -Monterey Bay.
 
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Give Virginia credit. Tough out of conference schedule. UCLA and Boise. Compare to who Baylor plays. Rice and Lamar. Big Joke.
 
Any talk of Boise EVER being admitted to the PAC12 is absolutely ridiculous. On field performance has virtually nothing to do with conference affiliation, otherwise there's not a chance in hell that we would have ever gotten into the B1G. BSU will never be a PAC school because there's no appreciable revenue to be derived from broadcast rights (at least, not as currently marketed, simply because nobody actually lives in Idaho); institutions with academic integrity (primarily Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA and UW) simply don't want to be associated with an institution that students at the University of Idaho derisively refer to as a "trucker's school" (obviously, referring to a school existing simply for the benefit of those seeking a CDL--in this regard, I lived in the Coeur d'Alene for a time and heard this phrase numerous times from multiple perspectives); and, BSU, as a state college in a small and, relatively poor, state, just doesn't have the resources necessary to compete with some of the world's most acknowledged and elite public and private universities that are members of the current PAC12. End of story.

All of this makes the recent Q&A with Commissioner Delany (regarding whether or not the B1G now regrets having taken Rutgers) that much more galling. If you haven't read Delany's response it is essentially how Will responded here -- i.e. a school's conference affiliation has so much more to do than the performance of its sports programs.
 
Give Virginia credit. Tough out of conference schedule. UCLA and Boise. Compare to who Baylor plays. Rice and Lamar. Big Joke.
WSU, Army, Kansas and Norfolk State ... No right to talk out of conference ...
 
Two P-5 schools and a service academy. These games are booked years in advance. We didn't know that they wouldn't be great. But we did book two P-5 schools
 
For those who live and die with recruiting rankings:

2011: VA: 25 Boise: 53
2012: VA: 27 Boise: 54
2013: VA: 28 Boise: 62
2014: VA: 41 Boise: 65
2015: VA: 44 Boise: 64
 
Last night likely put a nail in Mike London's HC job. Never thought he warranted it anyway. Nice guy, players love him. Where have we been hearing that, hmmm?
 
Expansion is not over. Boise will be in the PAC at some point.


Boise to Pac 12? Not in your lifetime.

That would be like inviting Rutgers-Camden to the BIG.

Not going to happen.

MO
Any talk of Boise EVER being admitted to the PAC12 is absolutely ridiculous. On field performance has virtually nothing to do with conference affiliation, otherwise there's not a chance in hell that we would have ever gotten into the B1G. BSU will never be a PAC school because there's no appreciable revenue to be derived from broadcast rights (at least, not as currently marketed, simply because nobody actually lives in Idaho); institutions with academic integrity (primarily Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA and UW) simply don't want to be associated with an institution that students at the University of Idaho derisively refer to as a "trucker's school" (obviously, referring to a school existing simply for the benefit of those seeking a CDL--in this regard, I lived in the Coeur d'Alene for a time and heard this phrase numerous times from multiple perspectives); and, BSU, as a state college in a small and, relatively poor, state, just doesn't have the resources necessary to compete with some of the world's most acknowledged and elite public and private universities that are members of the current PAC12. End of story.


I agree that Boise won' be admitted to the Pac 12 ever..however it should be note that originally the Pacific Coast Conference included Idaho.

MO
 
For those who live and die with recruiting rankings:

2011: VA: 25 Boise: 53
2012: VA: 27 Boise: 54
2013: VA: 28 Boise: 62
2014: VA: 41 Boise: 65
2015: VA: 44 Boise: 64

Boise has found a way to be the exception to the rule. No one brings this argument up when we lose to Ohio State 85-3.
 
Boise has found a way to be the exception to the rule. No one brings this argument up when we lose to Ohio State 85-3.

Get off recruiting a top 10 class annually. RU has never and never will do that. OSU has done that for decades. Once you get past the top 10-15 classes, you really think these rankings are a good predictor of on field results?. There are many exceptions and there is great uncertainty. Football factories get their pick of the top 200 freak HS players that come out annually. The other 100 or so schools have to project and develop players and get people who fit what they want to do.
 
The Pac12 made a mistake on those hacks, Colorado.

The B12 needs to find a way financially to make Boise work. Top to bottom a very well run school and football program.

They are pasting Virginia right now. Beat Washington. Lost to BYU on a Hail Mary.

Get lost. CU offers a bigger market and has had greater success for longer periods. Boise State doesn't have a national championship. If we go by what you think, then Rutgers should have been passed over too.
 
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