No!! A disorderly conduct charge is a record. Again, in this case he will need to wait two years before being allowed to expunge the record. Every time he applies for a job it will appear in a background check. He has to get the charges dropped plain and simple. Then he has to get the "arrest record" expunged which could be done after 12 months. If this simple assault charges stick he's screwed. JMHO
Carroo charged with simple assault under domestic violence
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The kid is going to the NFL. A disorderly conduct charge might hurt his draft status, but it ain't going to stop him from getting a job. He is not applying to Xerox after graduation.
I very seriously doubt he's getting out of this without something on his record, as you put it. Disorderly Conduct in this case would be "The Deal of the Week" in just about anybody's courtroom.
hey, for the record my Tallahassee comment was in jest. I don't want to be like them or the others on this stuff. Not Saints, but not them.
My comment wasn't directed at you. It was just a general observation.
One of the challenges that Rutgers has as an institution and that we have as a fan base is that we're still struggling with our identity. Yes, we're in the Big 10 and we want all the rights and privileges that are accorded to that status, but we haven't yet learned how to define "big time" in our own way and be comfortable with it.
The problem with the DV aspect is not just legal; it's primarily an image problem. The last thing the team needs from a public image standpoint is to have someone on it who can be characterized as having engaged in violence against women, even if technically he is not convicted of it.
That if someone went to the hospital(not my words) they sustained an injury (my opinion and, let's be real, most likely)? I would think it's almost a guarantee but, who knows, maybe not I guess. Still not posted as "fact."
Listen, I get your point, you don't want people posting unsubstantiated shit, I get it, but I'm also far from the culprit here. Maybe you should focus on all the other posters actually making statements about what they think they know, or actually do know, happened? I dunno. :(
oh no man...I didn't take it that way at all. You made me think for a minute and my rep is as important to me as I expect it to be of Rutgers..so I just wanted to be clear as a matter of public information on this site.
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The individual was not transported by EMS. She was taken to the ED by POV.
If nothing else, this would serve to dispel any notion that she was "savagely beaten".
Is it like PA were they charge you the lowest they can just in order to allow the victim to start the PFA order then once the investigation is complete they either stick to the original charges or elevate them?
No idea. The only thing I've ever been charged with in Pennsylvania is violating 75:6110.
Which is a very interesting thing.
It's the section of the PA motor vehicle code which grants the Pennsylvania Turnpike Authority the power to regulate traffic on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
So when you get popped for speeding on the PA Turnpike and they feel like "cutting you a break" they write you for violating that law. The violation doesn't transfer to your NJ driving record because there is no equivalent section of the motor vehicle code in NJ. So it's $224, have a nice day.
That is not domestic violence. For something to be domestic violence, the people need to at least be dating or have a child together. I'm pretty sure that also rules out the possibility that he hit a girl to defend his girlfriend. His girlfriend must have been the person he hit for this to be domestic violence.
http://www.treehousehaven.org/id53.html
So now we have gone from dismissed from program
no nfl career
did anyone suggest jail time?
millions lost
turn your stomach
From a site that portends that we all stop clicking nj.com because they are liars we have quite a few who click it for the news
A convenient wait after the initial police report claiming head was banged on pavement gives them until the new police report before needing to retract and they are still being quoted as a legitimate source for news.
There were no shortage of people in the Brown lot at that time and no one saw it but the reporter
The police do not suggest anything, at all,like that occurred .But still we know someone, who knows someone, who saw it all. If they were there, and did, they would be on the potentential witness list by now. If her head was, in fact , as has been suggested, banged on the pavement a hospital visit would be obligatory. It wasn't.
Does anyone here really think if that occurred all you would see is a simple assault categorization?
Frankly with a neutral police report and dropped charges ( as they are 90 percent of the time) he still conceivably play Saturday
Remember also the fight existed and he was not the incident creator. His actions were, it seems, reflexive rather than intentional
anyway another poster heard from...... good night all
no nfl career
did anyone suggest jail time?
millions lost
turn your stomach
From a site that portends that we all stop clicking nj.com because they are liars we have quite a few who click it for the news
A convenient wait after the initial police report claiming head was banged on pavement gives them until the new police report before needing to retract and they are still being quoted as a legitimate source for news.
There were no shortage of people in the Brown lot at that time and no one saw it but the reporter
The police do not suggest anything, at all,like that occurred .But still we know someone, who knows someone, who saw it all. If they were there, and did, they would be on the potentential witness list by now. If her head was, in fact , as has been suggested, banged on the pavement a hospital visit would be obligatory. It wasn't.
Does anyone here really think if that occurred all you would see is a simple assault categorization?
Frankly with a neutral police report and dropped charges ( as they are 90 percent of the time) he still conceivably play Saturday
Remember also the fight existed and he was not the incident creator. His actions were, it seems, reflexive rather than intentional
anyway another poster heard from...... good night all
I would agree, however, didn't you say something like "Leonte Caroo beat the snout out of a girl...."? Which would lead, I would imagine most sensible people, to make the assumption that she did incur an injury, if not multiple ones, agree?
She was definitely injured.
She just wasn't injured enough that she had to be rushed off to the hospital in an ambulance. So in all likelihood she was, as we say, "conscious and alert". (or "A&Ox3" if you're really into it)
Okay gotcha, thanks for clarifying, just remembered that one comment really had me like "WTF!!!" earlier today.
My statement is to everyone. Unless you know it to be a fact, you shouldn't post it as if it is. No offense, but you posted something hat isn't accurate. There is enough shite flying around the program. Putting inaccurate stuff out there not only doesn't help, but is wrong.
Actually you are wrong.... Two room mates, past or present are under the Protected Class. Have seen it happen!
2. Protected Classes:
A victim of domestic violence is a person protected by the Domestic Violence Act (including abuse and neglect of the elderly and disabled) and includes any person:
- who is 18 years of age or older, or
- who is an emancipated minor, and who has been subjected to domestic violence by:
- spouse
- former spouse
- any other person who is a present or former household member, OR
- who regardless of age, has been subjected to domestic violence by a person:
- with whom the victim has had a child in common, or
- with whom the victim has had a dating relationship.
- who, regardless of age, has been subjected to domestic violence by a person with whom the victim has had a dating relationship.
- a victim may be below the age of 18.
- a domestic violence assailant must be over the age of 18 or emancipated at the time of the offense.
Well yeah in the scenario of two roommates fighting over a remote, I guess it technically could be considered domestic violence if the victim is under 18 and has gotten married, joined the military, or had a child. That's not really what RUScrew was talking about in his understanding of domestic violence though.
Good thing my wife isn't allowed to touch the remotes. One less thing to worry about.
Sorry forgot to outline #1.... It's a DV even with two co-habitats past or present that are 18 or older as well!
RUScrew85 is correct though, thank you for the laugh my friend.
Most people know nothing
lots of bullshit
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Thread basically useless
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This board has become completely delusional. We have people debating whether a giant of a man who smashes a girls head on the ground is simple or aggravated assault. Like the difference fuccing matters.
He should never put on the Rutgers uniform again. Stop making excuses.
He should never put on the Rutgers uniform again. Stop making excuses.
We dont actually know for sure what happened(at least I sure dont)
Thats why I am NOT posting much and just reading
Thats why I am NOT posting much and just reading
Here is what could happen with Carroo. Mind you this is pure speculation as I know only what I have read in the news. First, Before I get into it, our DV laws do not work like you think they do. They are essentially pro woman protection laws where if a man is present and a woman claims DV, No matter what the circumstances, the man is presumed guilty. Ex. woman hits man, man restrains woman...cops show up on scene...woman claims DV...Guess who is going to jail? Ex. 2 Woman anticipates divorcing man, decides to use the liberal DV laws to get a "leg up" in the divorce proceedings...stages scene at marital home...injures herself to make it seem like husband has done something...unsuspecting husband gets home from work...wife waiting, tells soon to be ex about divorce, picks up phone dials 911, tells police husband is beating her, cops roll up on scene...husband calmly tells his side of story, cops see wife with "injuries", guess who is going to jail? The current DV laws are some of the most unfair laws when it comes how testimony is weigh between the genders and men get the very short end of the stick when it comes to any claims of DV. BTW our DV laws are structured using the "preponderance of the evidence" standard which essentially means the "claim" by the woman only has to be 51% true. This is a much lower standard than the "clear and convincing" evidence standard and the "beyond a reasonable doubt ", which we are all familiar with from movies. Lesson over.
Back to Caroo, the simple assault charge could turn out to be nothing depending on who is bringing the charge. If the "victim" is bringing the charge then Carroo could be in for a very rough time. If the victim shows up for the first court session, she will be directed to a DV victims protection unit inside the courthouse. This section of the courthouse is staffed by "victims advocates", quasi professional advocates who specialize in "helping" victims complete paperwork, and offer other counseling. Really what they do is convince women to go through the process even if the woman may not want to proceed. Carroo, on the other hand will have no help in figuring out where to go, what to do and will be directed to a domestic violence "offenders" unit. Here he will handed a stack of forms to be filled out, his photo will be taken, he will be asked invasive questions by the surly staff and otherwise treated as a pariah.
So if the victim decides to pursue the charges, she can file a TRO(temporary restraining order). A TRO is an order of protection that will bar Carroo from contacting the victim in any way. from this point the proceedings can go in wildly different directions depending on how vigorous the victim wants to push. The power lies with the victim and she can push hard or not pursue anything. On the other hand if the charge is coming from the police then the power still lies with the victim, she can decide to bevcome states witness ans cooperate with the investigation or decide to not cooperate and then the prosecutor has a high hurdle to prove their case. No matter what happens, the wheels of justice move very slow and that is going be Carroos season ending achillies heel. These types of cases can drag on for months as the "investgation" unfolds. Such a shame this happened Carroo maybe had a promising future ahead of him in the NFL and now derailed off of one incident. very very sad.
Back to Caroo, the simple assault charge could turn out to be nothing depending on who is bringing the charge. If the "victim" is bringing the charge then Carroo could be in for a very rough time. If the victim shows up for the first court session, she will be directed to a DV victims protection unit inside the courthouse. This section of the courthouse is staffed by "victims advocates", quasi professional advocates who specialize in "helping" victims complete paperwork, and offer other counseling. Really what they do is convince women to go through the process even if the woman may not want to proceed. Carroo, on the other hand will have no help in figuring out where to go, what to do and will be directed to a domestic violence "offenders" unit. Here he will handed a stack of forms to be filled out, his photo will be taken, he will be asked invasive questions by the surly staff and otherwise treated as a pariah.
So if the victim decides to pursue the charges, she can file a TRO(temporary restraining order). A TRO is an order of protection that will bar Carroo from contacting the victim in any way. from this point the proceedings can go in wildly different directions depending on how vigorous the victim wants to push. The power lies with the victim and she can push hard or not pursue anything. On the other hand if the charge is coming from the police then the power still lies with the victim, she can decide to bevcome states witness ans cooperate with the investigation or decide to not cooperate and then the prosecutor has a high hurdle to prove their case. No matter what happens, the wheels of justice move very slow and that is going be Carroos season ending achillies heel. These types of cases can drag on for months as the "investgation" unfolds. Such a shame this happened Carroo maybe had a promising future ahead of him in the NFL and now derailed off of one incident. very very sad.
Right. But the prosecutor usually will drop charges if the victim does not want to participate in the case or pursue charges
I had a good friend have this happen to him. Only that when the cops arrived they saw her worked up and him with scratches. They examined them both and she got arrested. Smh
A woman's scorn hath no end! If she is an ex.... She will want him to suffer as much as possible!!
Good to see the Men's Rights faction out in force. Always a fun bunch.
