Hobbs had hired coaches in football and mens hoops and those sports make money. The biggest drain is the wb program, nobody cares, any good HS boys team would beat them and uconn. It costs more just to open the Rac for games then they make. Cvs has milked her overblown hof career for millions. Her teams have been putrid for yrs and she is further exposed since joining B10. Coaches in nj dont send kids to her. Its a miracle she has keep her job. Hobbs keep moving forward with the athletics rebuild and dump cvs.
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So if a good HC Boy's basketball team could beat the best College WBB team
maybe that basketball team in Connecticut should be thinking of firing their HC and/or every college should eliminate their WBB program and let just the boys play.
WBB isn't a money maker for just about every College that has a program and they usually don't have as many fans that college football and men's basketball have.
But there are fans of College WBB and they want to see women represent their school in various sports, so acting like WBB is less than a HS boys basketball program is a poor way to say a HOF HC is overpaid and overstayed her welcome.
Just shows you might not be a big fan of watching College WBB no matter who is playing.
As for the putrid part, maybe not reaching expectations would have been a better way to put it, since the RU WBB program has been a wining one for years, but not one that RU fans can say should be an automate pick to make the NCAA tourney anymore.
maybe that basketball team in Connecticut should be thinking of firing their HC and/or every college should eliminate their WBB program and let just the boys play.
WBB isn't a money maker for just about every College that has a program and they usually don't have as many fans that college football and men's basketball have.
But there are fans of College WBB and they want to see women represent their school in various sports, so acting like WBB is less than a HS boys basketball program is a poor way to say a HOF HC is overpaid and overstayed her welcome.
Just shows you might not be a big fan of watching College WBB no matter who is playing.
As for the putrid part, maybe not reaching expectations would have been a better way to put it, since the RU WBB program has been a wining one for years, but not one that RU fans can say should be an automate pick to make the NCAA tourney anymore.
There are so many errors, and claims in your post.....Oh never mind.
Not really, cvs is not a hof coach in the minds of many HS coaches, so no recruits in nj come. Yes a decent boys hs team would blow out a college wb team, including uconn. Wb is a weak draw and even worse at RU. Make it a club sport and play in the barn. There are about 50 coaches that have zoomed past cvs over the last few yrs. look at wb highlights most gyms are near empty lol
Btw uconn makes money due to geno. Watching them win by 60 each game or win 100 in a row makes wb look like a joke.
You might just want to research what you plan to say before you post it.
Geno is bringing in the wins, but not the money you claim.
Can't say about this season or last year but UConn WBB might not be making a profit going by this:
UConn Women's Basketball Lack Of Financial Success Is Puzzling - CT Boom
>According to documents the school submitted to the Department of education for the 2014-2015 season, the school spent $6.7 million to cover expenses for the women’s team but earned only $4 million in revenue.<
http://ctboom.com/uconn-womens-basketball-lack-of-financial-success-is-puzzling/
Not sure you should bother feeding the troll. Sorry - anyone who proactively suggests that WBB at the college level should be a club sport is a troll.
As to your comments, it is true that UConn WBB no longer makes money. Not sure the reasons, per se, but the conference they are in is a long term factor (the lack of shared conference moneys) going forward.
The fact that WBB doesn't make money isn't so much driven by the lack of fannies in the seats (even programs with excellent attendance aren't making money), it is the lack of profit making in the TV contracts and tournament. Men's basketball makes money - in the long run - from March Madness income, football from the bowls and TV revenue. Of course, in football, fannies in the "many more than an indoor arena" seats is a factor.
They had plenty of "support" but it was all going in the head coach's bank account as her team drew 1,500 fans a game.
Old whine.
The support the RU Administration ( until Mulcahy put the eggs in Football's basket) wasn't there.
Vivian's name and reputation along with her coaching was the reason why RU WBB was the standard FB and MBB couldn't live up to for many years.
CVS' salary is just an outdated complaint and when she received top pay from Mulcahy, it was deserved.
Now her salary has been cut, but her name still gives RU good PR .
With you now changing to a "decent Boys HS team" UCONN, IMO would easily be above .500. A really good Boys HS team depends on how good. But I would still probably put my money on Geno and the UCONN women. They are a machine. A well oiled machine w super talent.
IMO ten games w ST Joe's Boys team...UCONN goes above ,500. But we will never know.
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My guess is the conference is the reason. UCONN has a TV deal w SNY. But how many people are going to tune in to watch UCONN beat most of the teams in the AAC. Some talented teams are in the league, but I don't think even the good teams are much of a ratings draw. Put UCONN in the ACC or SEC and I'm guessing you will see a profit.
The 2013 Tennessee team lost around $2 million, UConn might have lost money as well in the SEC
The Texas WBB program lost a little over $3 mil that year and most WBB programs don't turn a profit, no matter what conference their in.
The ACC's Maryland WBB program lost over $2 million itself and was a final four team
If there are College WBB programs turning a profit, I think ( can't say for sure) they are few and far between no matter how good they are or what conference they play in.
I believe if it wasn't for Title IX many WBB programs would be run on a shoestring and some of the top WBB schools wouldn't even bother to have a WBB team because of the lack of support from fans most WBB programs receive compared to the expense of running a women's basketball program.
I could be wrong about that, but that's how I feel.
CVS needs to go NOW!!!Hobbs hired a hc for men's bb that has clearly improved.I still recall 2-10 football record including the 78-0 loss to Michigan.Hopefully,that will improve.
UConn and Tennessee are 2 that - at times - did turn a profit. Large fan-bases - far above the ones in the arena - in both cases. How that factored in, exactly, not sure. As to the comment about SNY viewership - actually the rabid fans on their message board watch every second of their victories, usually several times over.
Football is (on average) the only profit turning sport at many schools, and doesn't turn a profit at every school. Men's basketball (at the school level) may or may not, I'm sure it varies by the school. Very few schools actually show an over-all profit in their athletic departments. Texas is known for it.
As to your second point - there are lots of schools where women's sports, WBB included, are poorly funded and exist only due to title IX.
I've said this before, and the data support this point: Football makes money at relatively few schools in the end, and when you get past the Football Bowl Subdivision, hardly any make money. (And, truth be told, some of those teams "make" money because the books are cooked to shift revenue towards them and expenses away from them.) The sport that probably makes money at the most schools is men's basketball, which is relatively cheap - heck, it has 1/7th as many scholarships as football and a lot fewer coaches- and has significant revenue potential from TV and ticket sales.
WCBB in general loses money, but again some of that it is about allocation of revenue and costs to benefit other sports. There is evidence that you can make money in WCBB if everything goes right, but the real constraint is that there is almost no TV money at all. If there were real TV money, a lot more programs would be in the black.
WCBB in general loses money, but again some of that it is about allocation of revenue and costs to benefit other sports. There is evidence that you can make money in WCBB if everything goes right, but the real constraint is that there is almost no TV money at all. If there were real TV money, a lot more programs would be in the black.
Thanks for the in depth info Madhat. I had no idea how hard it was to try to make money in WBB.
