Daily Tracking the NET: now 102
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Number 6 for LIU was the best shooter on the court for either team.
Who cares? They had a kid who couldn’t miss on a given day. We couldn’t buy an outside shot or hit our FTs. We played awful ans still won by 22 points. There was no value in scheduling this game.
winning by 22 vs the 332 ranked school dinged the NET and our non conference sos now down to 233
Irrelevant and a non factor.....Seton Hall winning big at Missouri and how Mississippi State, Illinois and Princeton do the rest of the year, is the only thing that matters.
Huh? Blowing out the cupcakes was what boosted our NET last year. It's one of a number of factors and is not irrelevant
having 7 Q4 wins is a red flag. SHU beat a team similar to them and RU which all of them probably not tourney teams. Nice win but not that impactful
It's not relevant because what matters the most is how well do the OOC opponents perform during the season. None of us have any idea how well or how good LIU, Bryant, Boston University or Stonehill are in mid December.
What matters the most today was Mississippi State winning by almost 20 and Seton Hall going wire to wire vs Missouri. Those two results far outweighs anything.
The NET last year, filtered through the blowouts and focused on margins of defeat in B1G play as the deciding factor to not make the NCAAs. We have to perform better and more consistently, against better competition in the B1G and Saturday at Prudential center.
The margins of defeat in the majority of the B1G games last year was bad.....blowing out Q4 teams didn't change anything, losing by almost 9 PPG in conference game losses killed RU.
they only schools that legit can leap out of Q4 into Q3 are Georgetown and Bryant plus Penn State could end up a Q4 home game if they are as bad as they look
NET is an algorithm, it really doesn't care what names are on the jerseys.
The NET is just one factor, not the be all end all of whether a team makes the tourney. Let’s remember that RU made the tourney in ‘22 with a 77 NET (highest ever NET to make tourney, might still be) and missed tourney last season ‘23 with a 40 NET. It’s a barometer of where a team stands and one of the tools used by the committee, but tourney selections are made from multiple factors.
its moreso the Quad records and avoiding bad losses than the actual final NET number. I dont like right now RU is 0-2, 1-1, 0-0 and 6-0 in the Quads right now
Agreed, I also am worried about this group getting enough Q1 wins this year for a quality resume. Miss St. is a big opportunity to jumpstart their tourney resume.
to me its a MUST win unless you are counting on another season from 2 years ago where RU got a bunch of feather in their cap wins. Unfortunately I see Purdue really being the only Big 10 school that lands in the top 10 this year. Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Northwestern, Ohio State appear all opportunities for quality wins but those are more 15-30 ranked teams. Then I think there is going to be a drop off to the next tier like Indiana, Michigan. I see RU fighting with them and in a grouping with Nebraska, Iowa trying to sneak into the tourney despite flaws. Then you have Maryland which looks lost. Minnesota and Penn State bringing up the rear.
The committee needs to come out and say…..The primary purpose of the NET is to have a tool to best measure SOS. The committee does not use a school’s NET at all in decision making purposes.
It is pretty obvious how teams can and do manipulate the NET. What a team does after the game is in hand should mean ZERO.
It is pretty obvious how teams can and do manipulate the NET. What a team does after the game is in hand should mean ZERO.
If i told you preseason…..
Gavin would virtually be unplayable in December
Noah would be more down then up…….
And Simpson would be backing Noah up
I think people would be under .500 with predictions.
Not true, we beat and played no one. It doesn’t take much to beat Bryant, LIU, and Sacred Heart.
This isn’t me being pessimistic. We’re a team with some good solid players with okay shooting. It’s just not a complete team. I think we have a decent chance against Miss State. I just don’t see us getting enough quality wins. Not a crazy statement at all.
No but it allows Florida Atlantic to lose to Bryant and remain in the top 12 so there’s that.
Georgetown is getting destroyed for the loss to Holy Cross. Hopefully they can win a few BE games to offset it.
Which was my point initially about Michigan State . Some input placed them high based on preseason projections . Because if Ga. tech for example a 125-150 team was 4-5 and then beat Baylor like MSU , they are not going up 34 spots. It is crazy that the criteria for the Net although posted is still mysterious. We should have full transparency. If Oakland who is 6-5 and 100 in the Net beats Michigan State ( now 43) on the road by 29 are they going up 34 spots ? Doubtful . Michigan State’s game was a neutral ( Haha) game on Detroit. If they did that to Baylor at their place are they going up 50 spots? What about their other 5 losses ? The lack of transparency is the issue.
It definitely seems to value neutral site games. FAU and Purdue are the only teams with five neutral site wins.
there is no input for net to start the season. They moved up because its very early in the NET where big blowout wins against top 10 net teams can move you up alot...Michigan State was hardly a 100 plus team before that game. MSU has a 16 sos and all 5 of their losses are in Q1 so the Ga Tech comparison is not good.
there is no bias toward team names nor a starting point, this is silly
Just reviewed Michigan State’s schedule and their 5 losses are to James Madison , Duke , Arizona , Wisconsin and Nebraska and their worst loss was by 13 to Wisconsin and they lost at home toWisconsin and James Madisonand neutral to Duke and Arizona and on the road to Nebraska. I stand corrected since I thought they had bad losses , especially at home , but it turns out they have lost to good teams mostly ranked teams (4-5) . Maybe they should not have been 79 at 4-5 and maybe a lot higher so the NET is just quirky . The jumps and drops would be better if they were explained better
good bump for RU to 74. I thought SHU would became a Q1 win this morning but I was wrong. Still a good move up. Princeton moves up 8 spots to 14. Think opponents opponents opponents....Princeton to St Joes to Villanova to Creighton
