Daily Tracking the NET: now 102

[bac2therac]

just for shits and giggles

Wake now up to 105 and Princeton falls to 10

RU non conference sos moves up to 183 and 136 overall

Big 10 slips to 3rd ranked conference behind Big 12 and SEC

 

[RUChoppin]

At this point the bigger question is whether Rutgers will even be a Q2 game for Princeton, rather than will Princeton be a Q2 game for Rutgers.

If we keep playing the way we're playing, the OOC schedule isn't going to matter because we won't be on the bubble to care about it.

 

[RUPete]

I’m not even worried about that stuff at this point. We just need to find a way to get better and not get embarrassed the rest of the way.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

bart, when removing preseason bias...
Overall 113
RU offensive efficiency .968 points per possession 291st (beyond awful)
RU defensive efficiency .912 PPP 14th

Absolutely crazy we can be 14th and DREB as bad as we have.

We are 324th in DREB% (that doesnt adjust for opponent)
6th in D TO% 24.1%
8th in 2pt% D 40.9%
10th in block % 16.4%

250th in adjusted tempo 67.6 possessions per game (we play fast, NOT!)

 

[JavaDunk18]

Ship will be corrected, but realistically now looking like an NIT season..
But looking back at our 2004 NIT final run, 2 of the teams we beat Villanova & West Virginia went on to Sweet Sixteen & Elite Eight NCAA runs the next year.
So stop worrying about next year. Pre-season top 15 and lock for tournament

 

[RUPete]

Ship will be corrected, but realistically now looking like an NIT season..
But looking back at our 2004 NIT final run, 2 of the teams we beat Villanova & West Virginia went on to Sweet Sixteen & Elite Eight NCAA runs the next year.
So stop worrying about next year. Pre-season top 15 and lock for tournament

I like the way you think Sir Java of Dunk! 😄

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

 

[RUPete]

Thanks, Florida man.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Thanks, Florida man.

YW G

 

[Scarlet Shack]

bart, when removing preseason bias...
Overall 113
RU offensive efficiency .968 points per possession 291st (beyond awful)
RU defensive efficiency .912 PPP 14th

Absolutely crazy we can be 14th and DREB as bad as we have.

We are 324th in DREB% (that doesnt adjust for opponent)
6th in D TO% 24.1%
8th in 2pt% D 40.9%
10th in block % 16.4%

250th in adjusted tempo 67.6 possessions per game (we play fast, NOT!)

Very interesting ….

The adjusted temp stat is partially down because we keep giving up so many Oreb that we are not getting as many possessions

Curious , can you easily sort out the three losses and see what the defensive stats were in those three games ?

 

[Rhuarc]

Ship will be corrected, but realistically now looking like an NIT season..
But looking back at our 2004 NIT final run, 2 of the teams we beat Villanova & West Virginia went on to Sweet Sixteen & Elite Eight NCAA runs the next year.
So stop worrying about next year. Pre-season top 15 and lock for tournament

Given the state of NIL, there's zero chance you'd see me predicting anything about future seasons ever again.

 

[Luvscarletknights]

Just let the season play out and support your Scarlet Knights.

 

[RUskoolie]

You all can stop tracking that stuff for this season. We will struggle to crack .500

The team is a train wreck against any team with a pulse. They look Eddie Jordan era bad. That doesn't magically change in 2 weeks.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Very interesting ….

The adjusted temp stat is partially down because we keep giving up so many Oreb that we are not getting as many possessions

Curious , can you easily sort out the three losses and see what the defensive stats were in those three games ?

not good...in games against top 100....those ones
def eff 1.027 PPP or 155th
our D stats are strong by beating the "defensive spread" by a lot in the cupcakes

adjusted deff eff
princeton 1.00 PPP
BU .825
bryant .856
gtown .816
howard .927
st pete .749
Illiois 1.033
wake 1.049

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

So let’s assume no Mag. What can we otherwise do to improve the rebounding? That’s the question Pike needs to answer. Lots of issues, but we cannot be the 324th best rebounding team (unadjusted for our weak schedule no less) and have any chance of competing. There are other problems - but nothing more glaring than this one because we’re certainly not good enough at anything else to overcome it.

 

[RUby RED]

Ship will be corrected, but realistically now looking like an NIT season..
But looking back at our 2004 NIT final run, 2 of the teams we beat Villanova & West Virginia went on to Sweet Sixteen & Elite Eight NCAA runs the next year.
So stop worrying about next year. Pre-season top 15 and lock for tournament

I’d be shocked if we’re an NIT team. Feel like that would require 8ish conference wins, which i think we’ll be hard pressed to achieve

 

[jordkap]

I know it’s too early to write the team off, but I’ve already passed the anger portion of grieving and am headed towards acceptance. This is not a team that can make a big run as currently constructed. Will they win a few games they shouldn't? Probably!

Will they be a basket away from making the sweet 16, no and that’s ok. It happens.

 

[bitnez]

While it likely won’t matter there are so many winnable games left on the schedule. The next 4 can all be won. In league, Iowa, Mich St, PSU, Michigan, Minnesota and Maryland either are not good or are playing bad basketball. Indiana and Nebraska who knows. The rest seem out of reach for this group. FWIW there is a path to 18+ wins without beating the better teams in the league.

 

[bac2therac]

slips to 98 today

 

[ScarletDave]

Have to hope Mag comes back soon and it makes a big difference inside and in rebounding. Not expecting NCAAs this year, but would hope to get to NIT and not finish bottom 4 in the Big Ten.

 

[AshCatchEm]

I don't understand how the team in pike's year one is better than this team pike himself put together

 

[RUJMM78]

I don't understand how the team in pike's year one is better than this team pike himself put together

Better shooters and rebounders.

 

[Bayonnebomber79]

While it likely won’t matter there are so many winnable games left on the schedule. The next 4 can all be won. In league, Iowa, Mich St, PSU, Michigan, Minnesota and Maryland either are not good or are playing bad basketball. Indiana and Nebraska who knows. The rest seem out of reach for this group. FWIW there is a path to 18+ wins without beating the better teams in the league.

I hope you’re correct but as of today I don’t see this happening. Wake was supposedly a “winnable game”

 

[fluoxetine]

I don't understand how the team in pike's year one is better than this team pike himself put together

It wasn’t.

 

[Freddy Stubbs]

I don't understand how the team in pike's year one is better than this team pike himself put together

Because two of the players he expected to have on the team left when it was too late for Pike to have good options to replace them.
This is a very different team with those 2 guys.
This team has no leadership or guts. Cam at least had heart!

 

[biazza38]

Hopefully we can play some respectable basketball. There are some mediocre teams in the B1G this year so hopefully we can grab some wins, but we’re not gonna score enough.

 

[bitnez]

I hope you’re correct but as of today I don’t see this happening. Wake was supposedly a “winnable game”

Oh I'm “hoping” too. Haha. Team hasn’t done anything yet to give us confidence they can win against real competition.

 

[rutgers1998]

Still way too early to be worried about NET. We finished with a NET of 40 last year and got left out so it’s not the Bible for making the NCAA tournament by any means

 

[bac2therac]

Back to 96 today

 

[Degaz-RU]

On a related note, our AdjO on KenPom is ranked #200. Absolutely PUTRID.

 

[Degaz-RU]

Rutgers jumped from 96 to 74 in the NET after the win at SHU.

Huge to get a quad 2 road win. If we don’t win that game, we’re sitting at 0-4 in Quad 1 and 2 combined.

 

[bac2therac]

That's a nice jump. Really need that Mississippi State win

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Reading this thread of overreactions, when it has happened this way each of the last 3 years, is just silly.

It doesn't solve the offensive ratings or anything, but the staff at least changed things this year with the roster makeup and lineups yesterday.

Ironically, we now need Seton Hall to actually improve and get better this year and have to beat Mississippi State and assume that they are a NCAA tournament team too. I don't think SHU has any chance of making the NCAAs, at 0-4 vs Iowa, USC, Baylor and RU, but if they can win 9 Big East games (it's a very top-heavy league), then the SHU win will help.

 

[Degaz-RU]

Reading this thread of overreactions, when it has happened this way each of the last 3 years, is just silly.

It doesn't solve the offensive ratings or anything, but the staff at least changed things this year with the roster makeup and lineups yesterday.

Ironically, we now need Seton Hall to actually improve and get better this year and have to beat Mississippi State and assume that they are a NCAA tournament team too. I don't think SHU has any chance of making the NCAAs, at 0-4 vs Iowa, USC, Baylor and RU, but if they can win 9 Big East games (it's a very top-heavy league), then the SHU win will help.

We should all be SHU fans the rest of the year, no doubt.

 

[RUPete]

That's a nice jump. Really need that Mississippi State win

That would really get things back on track.

 

[Scarlet Blind]

#51 Villanova(5-4) already has 3 Q3 losses, @ 190 Penn, vs 83 St Joe's and N 132 Drexel. If you go by the reasoning we were left out, I guess they can't lose another Q3 or Q4. It leaves no room for error because I don't think any of those Q3 losses become Q2s.

 

[bac2therac]

#51 Villanova(5-4) already has 3 Q3 losses, @ 190 Penn, vs 83 St Joe's and N 132 Drexel. If you go by the reasoning we were left out, I guess they can't lose another Q3 or Q4. It leaves no room for error because I don't think any of those Q3 losses become Q2s.

Nova is 3-1 in q1/2 and has quality win over UNC. Big difference.

Rutgers absolutely needs to beat Mississippi State unless people are confident RU will go 12-7 in conference play the rest of the way. Big plus for Rutgers is no bad losses this year. A big help

 

[Scarlet83]

You all can stop tracking that stuff for this season. We will struggle to crack .500

The team is a train wreck against any team with a pulse. They look Eddie Jordan era bad. That doesn't magically change in 2 weeks.

No, the team didn’t magically change in 2 weeks. The team magically changed in 1 game.

 

[RUInsanity]

No, the team didn’t magically change in 2 weeks. The team magically changed in 1 game.

The Eddie Jordan comment was my favorite overreactive hot take. Apparently that poster didn't watch too often in the EJ years.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Miss stare is a must win

9-2 out of confrence with no bad losses …means our big ten record determines our season fate