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Don Bosco QB Tommy DeVito to Sadexcuse.

But the pecking order doesn't take away the value that Devito brings. He was still offered by Rutgers, so the staff wanted him. He has a strong arm, he's accurate and is a state champion at a NE powerhouse school. CUSE was high on Devito and went after him. Devito is a good pick up for their scheme. Last year Rutty fans were slobbing all over Russo because he was an elite 11 QB and a great fit. When he went to Temple after the coaching change he immediately wasn't good and was the most overrated Rutgers QB commit ever.
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you wonder what type of "offer" a school makes if the candidate is 3rd on the drawing board, and both number 1 and number 2 show serious
interest..... some schools officially offer but then tell the player to look around, or they are honest and tell them that they will continue to recruit
the position after his commit

if you tell a player the truth, then it should not be a shock if they go elsewhere, to a school that slobbers all over them, as their number one
 
Seriously... Good for him. The offer here wasn't commitable until after we hear from Lewis. If I were him, I would have made the same choice.
Agreed.

Also, I don't much worry about who commits where this far in advance. There's always movement as NSD approaches. Just hoping some of that movement it to us instead of all away this next time around.
 
You're really showing what an idiot you are with your revisionist history.

The vast majority of this board still thought he was a tremendous talent and still wanted him here. The truth of the matter is that he's a Pro Style QB and we changed our offense. He did what was best for him and everybody understood and wished him well. We ended up getting a highly touted dual threat QB so it worked out for everybody. He was all class and we will be pulling for him at Temple.

As far as Devito goes, he does have an "offer", but we would not have accepted his commitment at this point. He is at best third in line (I've heard 4th after Grissom) and the staff was pretty upfront with him about this. If you read Devito's own comments he discusses the fact that RU wasn't pursuing him nearly as hard as SU. It's also pretty obvious from his comments that he would be at RU if we really wanted him right now. He clearly likes RU a lot more than SU and that is pretty much common knowledge in NJ recruiting circles. Unfortunately for him we have Lewis, Bowers and Grissom rated higher on our board. He made his choice not to wait around and secure a spot for himself now, which was probably a smart business move on his part even though he's going to the worst program in the power 5 by far.
Like I said it was a system fit. Obviously SU thought more highly of him thats why they pursued him. I didn't say Rutgers didnt have him 3rd in the pecking order. I know that, but its for obvious reasons. The other QB's have a skill set that fits their scheme better. It makes sense. The kid wanted to go to a school that threw the ball alot and Dino has a great reputation with QB's. It cant be just for that? lol does it really have to be because rutgers didnt want him so he had no choice but to choose SU. Stop acting like every player in the country is dying to go to Rutgers. If Rutgers still ran a Pro set Devito would have ended up there and people would have been happy about the commit.
 
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Like I said it was a system fit. Obviously SU thought more highly of him thats why they pursued him. I didn't say Rutgers didnt have him 3rd in the pecking order. I know that, but its for obvious reasons. The other QB's have a skill set that fits their scheme better. It makes sense. The kid wanted to go to a school that threw the ball alot and Dino has a great reputation with QB's. It cant be just for that? lol does it really have to be because rutgers didnt want him so he had no choice but to choose SU. Stop acting like every player in the country is dying to go to Rutgers. If Rutgers still ran a Pro set Devito would have ended up there and people would have been happy about the commit.
I'm not acting like every player is dying to go to RU. Do you realize how stupid you sound when you say something like that? I'm speaking of ONE player who in fact wanted RU very badly, but it didn't work out for him. So no his choosing SU can't be "just for that". You can't just ignore the first part of the story. I don't think this board would be happy if we still ran a Pro Set and he landed here. I think he wound still be about third on the wish list.
 
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I'm not acting like every player is dying to go to RU. Do you realize how stupid you sound when you say something like that? I'm speaking of ONE player who in fact wanted RU very badly, but it didn't work out for him. So no his choosing SU can't be "just for that". You can't just ignore the first part of the story. I don't think this board would be happy if we still ran a Pro Set and he landed here. I think he wound still be about a third on the wish list.
Okay, so what about him is so bad that people wouldn't like him? Devito is a jersey kid, state champ at a power house school that some of your best QB's came from. Played against some of the best competition in the country, he is accurate, smart and efficient with the ball. He had more offers than Russo. Yup, you guys would have hated this commit.
 
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Okay, so what about him is so bad that people wouldn't like him? Devito is a jersey kid, state champ at a power house school that some of your best QB's came from. Played against some of the best competition in the country, he is accurate, smart and efficient with the ball. He had more offers than Russo. Yup, you guys would have hated this commit.
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the mods here and on the other site pretty much indicated that DiVito was not on the top of the RU board....

that is an assessment made by our coaches, and I am sure they took into account the high school he played at, the competition, etc

all those things our fans would consider a plus, and would have made the fans happy........ yet after all that the staff has Lewis as the number one target.....

we, as fans, would have thought having DeVito as a RU commit a good thing, for exactly the things you mention.... but the coaches dive into other details that we don't even consider.....

based on the things you mentioned, the RU fans would not have hated a DeVito commit.... but again, we have to trust the staff.... and the staff wants Lewis.
 
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the mods here and on the other site pretty much indicated that DiVito was not on the top of the RU board....

that is an assessment made by our coaches, and I am sure they took into account the high school he played at, the competition, etc

all those things our fans would consider a plus, and would have made the fans happy........ yet after all that the staff has Lewis as the number one target.....

we, as fans, would have thought having DeVito as a RU commit a good thing, for exactly the things you mention.... but the coaches dive into other details that we don't even consider.....

based on the things you mentioned, the RU fans would not have hated a DeVito commit.... but again, we have to trust the staff.... and the staff wants Lewis.
No Im not debating Lewis. If I was running Rutgers system I would take him too. Better fit. I was speaking in terms as if the staff was still running a Pro Style. Why wouldn't the fans be happy about getting a commit from Devito?
 
No Im not debating Lewis. If I was running Rutgers system I would take him too. Better fit. I was speaking in terms as if the staff was still running a Pro Style. Why wouldn't the fans be happy about getting a commit from Devito?
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it would be confusing, because it is said he is a pro style qb..... so some fans would be happy just because he seems to have good Pedigree (school played at, competition against, etc).....and others a bit upset because we would be moving away from what we thought would be a wide open offense.
 
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it would be confusing, because it is said he is a pro style qb..... so some fans would be happy just because he seems to have good Pedigree (school played at, competition against, etc).....and others a bit upset because we would be moving away from what we thought would be a wide open offense.
No, thats not what I mean. Lets say Ash never happened and McDaniels was still running the O. Devito commits as a pro style QB. Would fans really be upset with his commitment?
 
No, thats not what I mean. Lets say Ash never happened and McDaniels was still running the O. Devito commits as a pro style QB. Would fans really be upset with his commitment?
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of course not... it would mean we recruited a good pro style qb,. a pro system we were running, from a very good program in NJ....

edit: but with the old staff in place, maybe Russo is still coming here, and looks to be a solid 3 or 4
year pro style qb here......
 
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I stand in awe of your naming brilliance, oh OriginalKnight. Please, exercise your gigantic brain and share with us your non-garbage nickname for Sadexcuse.
Mildone you're just not funny or entertaining and it's so sad and pathetic because you try so damn hard. I'm actually starting to feel bad for you.
 
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Okay, so what about him is so bad that people wouldn't like him? Devito is a jersey kid, state champ at a power house school that some of your best QB's came from. Played against some of the best competition in the country, he is accurate, smart and efficient with the ball. He had more offers than Russo. Yup, you guys would have hated this commit.
It wouldn't be bad and wouldn't be hated. He's a good prospect, but this board would want to do better. Nobody would be upset, but they wouldn't be celebrating either. I'm sure you have noticed that nobody seems to care that he's not coming here and it's funny because you want us to care so badly.

You really should educate yourself on Russo and his recruitment because you're very ignorant and have no idea what you're talking about. BTW, LSU came pretty damn close to offering Russo. The head coach even flew up and made an in home visit. You also may want to do a film study of both Russo and Devito. Russo is the better prospect by far. Pretty much anybody will tell you that.
 
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I think that no tears being shed is more from the conditioning received on boards that Lewis is clearly better
I would be shocked if 5 people here actually saw either play.
The Lewis highlight film was playing against some really poor teams
The coaches can do what they wish, of course, so lets hope they got the expected improvement right
Plan ahead and you can see the actual matchup of petes vas bosco on nov 7 ( i think ) at Caven Point
 
Yet they still continue to get solid commits from NJ Parochials.

Listen, kids who go to Jesuit high schools, may just have an inclination to go tomJesuit colleges. There are two major jesuit college footbal programs in the country, BC and ND.
 
Mildone you're just not funny or entertaining and it's so sad and pathetic because you try so damn hard. I'm actually starting to feel bad for you.
Your first round of posts on this board involved posting "FAIL" to everything you disagree with. While you have abandoned that tactic, you still attack and demean other posters. This board is entertainment and fun for a lot of people. Many of us enjoy the posts of @mildone. Maybe you should put some posters on ignore, or just not bother responding to them. Or take some of your own advice, and take a Midol. Whatever you do, just lighten up. Have a nice day.
 
Anyone going to BC is dumb because that coach will be fired soon. Another losing season is gone.
 
It wouldn't be bad and wouldn't be hated. He's a good prospect, but this board would want to do better. Nobody would be upset, but they wouldn't be celebrating either. I'm sure you have noticed that nobody seems to care that he's not coming here and it's funny because you want us to care so badly.

You really should educate yourself on Russo and his recruitment because you're very ignorant and have no idea what you're talking about. BTW, LSU came pretty damn close to offering Russo. The head coach even flew up and made an in home visit. You also may want to do a film study of both Russo and Devito. Russo is the better prospect by far. Pretty much anybody will tell you that.
I know alot about Russo. Never said Russo wasnt better than Devito. I like Russo's film more than Devito but Im not a college coach. They know how to evaluate QB's more than me, I just stated a fact. He does have more offers. Im not sure why Russo didnt have more . You would figure a elite 11 QB would have double digit power 5 offers. I know LSU expressed alot of interest in him. I followed the whole thing. Don't forget Cuse lost Lindsey Scott to LSU. I thought you guys were gonna get him but you guys got Oden instead who I think is a great player. Dont call anyone ignorant until you know who they are. I am involved in recruiting more than you know.
 
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I know alot about Russo. Never said Russo wasnt better than Devito. He obviously is. I know LSU expressed alot of interest in him. I followed the whole thing. Don't forget Cuse lost Lindsey Scott to LSU. I thought you guys were gonna get him but you guys got Oden instead who I think is a great player. Dont call anyone ignorant until you know who they are. I am involved in recruiting more than you know.
When you say "you guys" means you are a fan of some other school...just a fair warning you'll be asked by many posters here who you root for and told you are a troll...best to just come
out and say it, learn from my mistakes
 
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Mildone you're just not funny or entertaining and it's so sad and pathetic because you try so damn hard. I'm actually starting to feel bad for you.

Actually, I think both Mildone AND you are funny and entertaining. The one difference is that with his posts it's by design.
 
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When you say "you guys" means you are a fan of some other school...just a fair warning you'll be asked by many posters here who you root for and told you are a troll...best to just come
out and say it, learn from my mistakes
Yeah, I know all about it. Most people know me on here and know I mean well. I dont get sensitive when Im insulted because I admire the passion of the fan base. don't intently say anything bad. I wouldn't do it because I respect Rutgers and NE programs, most importantly I send my kids there. I have several on the team now. Thats why I come on here from time to time, just to see how their doing.
 
Yeah, I know all about it. Most people know me on here and know I mean well. I dont get sensitive when Im insulted because I admire the passion of the fan base. don't intently say anything bad. I wouldn't do it because I respect Rutgers and NE programs, most importantly I send my kids there. I have several on the team now. Thats why I come on here from time to time, just to see how their doing.
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Well, you visit here and it seems you want RU fans to feel pain about not getting Devito, and you are not getting that.... Sorry to disappoint you on that part..... Right now we are trusting the efforts of the football staff.
 
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I don't think this is too confusing of a situation. Devito is a very good qb. He doesn't fit perfectly into our system but our coaches like him and he likes us. Unfortunately, we can only take 1 qb and there are a couple others that are a better fit. Hopefully we don't strike out with them or who knows we may even try to flip Devito.

The negative posts are because we hate Cuse or because some people don't understand the recruiting process.

I think that covers it all.
 
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No, thats not what I mean. Lets say Ash never happened and McDaniels was still running the O. Devito commits as a pro style QB. Would fans really be upset with his commitment?
I just don't get why Ash "offered" even a non commitable to a kid that doesn't fit their system? Was it just to get in good with that program? Also, if a kid has a "non commitable offer" does he REALLY have an offer?
 
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Well, you visit here and it seems you want RU fans to feel pain about not getting Devito, and you are not getting that.... Sorry to disappoint you on that part..... Right now we are trusting the efforts of the football staff.
why does defending a kid and a school he pick mean that I want Rutgers fans to be upset? I just see a few people on hear that want to point out how he wasn't wanted more than how much he liked SU. I don't think its fair to the kid. Do I think if Rutgers went after him harder he would have went there? Yes, but I also think Cuse did a good job selling their product and he immediately saw a great opportunity to play under Dino system. Give some credit to them too.
 
I don't think this is too confusing of a situation. Devito is a very good qb. He doesn't fit perfectly into our system but our coaches like him and he likes us. Unfortunately, we can only take 1 qb and there are a couple others that are a better fit. Hopefully we don't strike out with them or who knows we may even try to flip Devito.

The negative posts are because we hate Cuse or because some people don't understand the recruiting process.

I think that covers it all.
Thank you. The best post in this thread. Love the honesty.
 
I just don't get why Ash "offered" even a non commitable to a kid that doesn't fit their system? Was it just to get in good with that program? Also, if a kid has a "non commitable offer" does he REALLY have an offer?
Ohio St's scheme is at its best with a Dual threat QB, but that dual threat needs to be accurate with the ball too. The scheme can be successful with a pocket QB. Cardale Jones and Chris Leak are examples (both won championships btw). I think the staff wants to keep a accurate pro style QB on the roster as a plan B, in case things aren't going as smooth as they like. So maybe the staff wanted Devito and Lewis. IMO
 
I don't think this is too confusing of a situation. Devito is a very good qb. He doesn't fit perfectly into our system but our coaches like him and he likes us. Unfortunately, we can only take 1 qb and there are a couple others that are a better fit. Hopefully we don't strike out with them or who knows we may even try to flip Devito.

The negative posts are because we hate Cuse or because some people don't understand the recruiting process.

I think that covers it all.
We can't or will not take more than 1 QB?
 
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I don't think this is too confusing of a situation. Devito is a very good qb. He doesn't fit perfectly into our system but our coaches like him and he likes us. Unfortunately, we can only take 1 qb and there are a couple others that are a better fit. Hopefully we don't strike out with them or who knows we may even try to flip Devito.

The negative posts are because we hate Cuse or because some people don't understand the recruiting process.

I think that covers it all.[/QUOTE

Agree

I also think he can develop to be a very good QB.

At this stage, I usually don't look at the Stars but his offer sheet which was quite extensive.
Many 2-star recruits get another star near the end of their senior year.

Other than Rutgers and Syracuse other P5 school offers came from Maryland, Boston College and Wake Forest.

What I found impressive is the fact that he also received offers from Penn and Yale.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Can't you come up with a better name than sadexcuse? You're so embarrassing. If that's your best just call them by their name.
I know, right!

Doesn't the OP know we use sara now and not the sadexcuse one.

Come on OP get with the program!.
 
When you say "you guys" means you are a fan of some other school...just a fair warning you'll be asked by many posters here who you root for and told you are a troll...best to just come
out and say it, learn from my mistakes
why does defending a kid and a school he pick mean that I want Rutgers fans to be upset? I just see a few people on hear that want to point out how he wasn't wanted more than how much he liked SU. I don't think its fair to the kid. Do I think if Rutgers went after him harder he would have went there? Yes, but I also think Cuse did a good job selling their product and he immediately saw a great opportunity to play under Dino system. Give some credit to them too.
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There is no need to defend Devito because it is not a super big deal here...... You seem to want it to be...... Just like what happens at Syracuse, we have a pecking order of who we want, and by most reports he was third in line....

No one is saying he will be a bad college Qb, in fact he might turn out to be the best one graduating out of NJ for that year...... We will find out over the years.

But, Every school makes a decision on who they go after really hard, and others they don't..... Mistakes are made at times, and sometimes a coach nails the evaluation.

. Now, he might have chosen Syracuse anyway with both colleges going full out.... But we know who RU was/is recruiting the hardest, and it is not Devito.

I suggest you let this go.... Best of luck with Devito up at Cuse..... He played for a big time high school against tough competition, and should be a fine college Qb.
 
I dunno how many QBs we want, but good luck landing two highly rated QBs. Usually doesn't work like that.
Would not hurt to have a backup QB in the system. If we only go for one QB, that only gives us two that fit the new system.

Was watching the PSU spring practice yesterday, and both QBs looked good. McSorley had the #1's and looked very good, and Stevens had the #2's and looked OK. Commentators said that in their new system arm strength was not at a premium, and folks here should keep that in mind as our QB situation unfolds.
 

I think he has the potential to develop to be a very good QB.

At this stage, I usually don't look at the Stars. In many cases a good 2-star prospect has the opportunity to pick up his third star by the end of his senior season.

His offer sheet was extensive.

Other than Rutgers and Syracuse, he also had offers from Maryland, Boston College and Wake Forest.

What was impressive was that he also received offers from Penn and Yale.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Would not hurt to have a backup QB in the system. If we only go for one QB, that only gives us two that fit the new system.

Was watching the PSU spring practice yesterday, and both QBs looked good. McSorley had the #1's and looked very good, and Stevens had the #2's and looked OK. Commentators said that in their new system arm strength was not at a premium, and folks here should keep that in mind as our QB situation unfolds.
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At this point in time it might be tough to sell two outstanding qbs to come to RU in the same recruiting class.... A tenn. can get away with that, but not us yet.... Imho
 
I think this kid is going to be pretty good. But as others have stated he is third or 4th on or want list for QBs. Petrula as well. He is going to be a good lineman and it is a loss, but we have way bigger fish in the OL pond.
 
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