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Dylan imo…. We win both games with him healthy

alright i'm not gonna get in too far in the weeds here so we can just agree to disagree but i mean he was healthy enough to show up and play.

he did play and tried to gut it out for his team and he didn't have it. i for one appreciate his efforts because it would have been pretty easy to just say nah i don't feel 100% and don't want to hurt my season numbers/draft status/whatever...so i'll just watch tonight.

but you can go ahead and judge him for going to the game just to be SEEN and for traveling with the team (when again he probably doing so feeling like dogs*it on the off chance he felt well enough the next day to try and gut it out).

to me so far nothing i've seen from dylan on or off the court has shown that this season isn't his first priority. he's busting his a** and playing great. if you want to say that the way he's handling being sick as a dog is a sign of that...like i said we can just agree to disagree.
My only point, and I really don't want to judge how healthy he's been, is that if it was even a question of not being ready to play last night he shouldn't have been anywhere that doesn't aid him in that goal. I mean there are things normal people have to do when feeling sick, work, school, ect - showing up at a woman's game the night before isn't one of them.
 
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Dylan almost played in the Indiana game by all reports. Of course he went on the trip

Dylan lives on campus. Took a short walk to sit down at a women's basketball game. The horror! I'm sure he really over exerted himself sitting there doing nothing

The season is a disappointment. I get it. It sucks. Stop freaking out over nonsense
 
Dylan almost played in the Indiana game by all reports. Of course he went on the trip

Dylan lives on campus. Took a short walk to sit down at a women's basketball game. The horror! I'm sure he really over exerted himself sitting there doing nothing

The season is a disappointment. I get it. It sucks. Stop freaking out over nonsense
You should respond to a specific post when voicing your opinion.
He could have been seen at a party, hung out and not drank.
For an 18 year old paid to play millionaire, fans will ask questions.
The same exact questions would be raised for any professional athlete.
 
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Like it or not, ignorant or not.
There an optic involved …. You know that Moon.
My immediate thought was great, he must be healthy if he’s out and about!
Bingo, the optics were not good and it set the expectation that he likely was good to go. Turns out he was more touch and go than good to go for the Wisconsin game according to Pike. People (myself included) made an assumption based upon this plus the passage of more time since the Indiana game that he was good to go by the Wisky game. But we all know what happens when you assume, my mom has been giving me the answer to that one for years…..
 
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You should respond to a specific post when voicing your opinion.
He could have been seen at a party, hung out and not drank.
For an 18 year old paid to play millionaire, fans will form opinions.
The same exact questions would be raised for any professional athlete.

Exactly.
Dylan's young and he'll learn.
But everything he does now and going forward will be scrutinized.
It comes with the money.

Imagine Jalen Brunson attended our game last night.
Then tonight he missed the Knicks game and said "I've been sick for over a week and I'm still recovering."

Fans (rightly or wrongly) would quickly say "but you went to Rutgers last night? WTF?"
 
Zap- I said the same thing leaving the RAC last night. it is typical RU bad luck. Harper would’ve made a huge difference in yesterday‘s game, especially when we rallied to play sound defense and rebound well in the second half, but had no offense to get over the hump.
 
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Are you crazy, no one said he wasn’t sick or he should have been playing
Yeah then why the bullshyt about him being well enough to go to the women's game,?? Just excuses and yeah you know nothing about his sickness and how it affected the guy. No emphaty is the trademark when talking about a loss. It's getting frigging sickening and I'm not crazy are you?
 
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Sorry not buying it at all.

If the first part of what you said is true about Indiana and being past contagious phase so that’s why he traveled.

Why the hell is he not in bed resting before the Wisconsin game instead of attending the woman’s game?

Either the staff is absolutely the worst in the country at what they do or Pikes lying to us again.
Here is his injury from the Columbia game. I keep trying to post it but I guess I am new and it keeps getting taken down.



I haven't seen him move the same since this play. 4 min left 1st half. If you rewatch game from then on you can judge for yourself, sideline problems, limping, working it out. Same right knee he had problems with.
 
I understand and I don’t buy it sorry. No way a big time D1 power 5 program allows this to happen.

If he was past contagious phase for the Indiana trip then there is no way he couldn’t go last night.

That would mean he was 10 plus days past coming down with the “flu”.

The whole thing screams lies or staff incompetence
What the hell are you talking about ? He had the flu and travelled to Indiana and wanted to play but minutes into the practice he realized he had no strength.
Pike expected him to get better between Thursday and Monday. Dylan wanted to play to help the team . It was clear to anyone in the gym he had absolutely no energy. Pike had him as a decoy in the three point corner almost the entire 15 minutes he did play but it was clear , he had no energy , no burst , no hops , could not beat down on defense. Extremely unfortunate because with ACE having an unusual off night a healthy Dylan would have been enough to win not just last night but against Indiana as well.
This strain of flu knocks the crap out of you and zaps your energy. We get very very unlucky as it appears Dylan and ACE are ready to tear into the league schedule.
We need Dylan back healthy , controlling things at the point , not in the corner as a decoy , and that will make things easier for ACE. Now with Acuff , Grant and Somerville let’s get some consistency and with our big dogs and anything we get from JMike , Jeremiah and Jordan is gravy because I have given up hope waiting for their improvement and just pray they limit their negative plays on the court.
 
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Yeah then why the bullshyt about him being well enough to go to the women's game,?? Just excuses and yeah you know nothing about his sickness and how it affected the guy. No emphaty is the trademark when talking about a loss. It's getting frigging sickening and I'm not crazy are you?
I certainly do know about his sickness and how it affected him, he’s currently to sick and weak to contribute.
Your use of the words “making excuses” aren’t even remotely applicable to the situation.
Every human on this board feels terrible for Dylan and the obvious flu he had.
Not sure what you’re saying other than professional paid athletes get scrutinized for being out in public after missing games with an illness that continues to prevent them from playing.
Like it or not
 
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What the hell are you talking about ? He had the flu and travelled to Indiana and wanted to play but minutes into the practice he realized he had no strength.
Pike expected him to get better between Thursday and Monday. Dylan wanted to play to help the team . It was clear to anyone in the gym he had absolutely no energy. Pike had him as a decoy in the three point corner almost the entire 15 minutes he did play but it was clear , he had no energy , no burst , no hops , could not beat down on defense. Extremely unfortunate because with ACE having an unusual off night a healthy Dylan would have been enough to win not just last night but against Indiana as well.
This strain of flu knocks the crap out of you and zaps your energy. We get very very unlucky as it appears Dylan and ACE are ready to tear into the league schedule.
We need Dylan back healthy , controlling things at the point , not in the corner as a decoy , and that will make things easier for ACE. Now with Acuff , Grant and Somerville let’s get some consistency and with our big dogs and anything we get from JMike , Jeremiah and Jordan is gravy because I have given up hope waiting for their improvement and just pray they limit their negative plays on the court.
Agree w everything you laid out! I think it’s more than the “flu”. Hopefully he’s back Thursday because as you stated JMike and Jwill are not winning us games
 
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I certainly do know about his sickness and how it affected him, he was to sick and weak to contribute.
Your use of the words “making excuses” aren’t even remotely applicable to the situation.
Every human on this board feels terrible for Dylan and the obvious flu he had.
Not sure what you’re saying
I think the focus on the optics is stupid fan shit. He was game time decision at Indiana but the flu kicked his ass and he couldn’t go. He had 4 days to recoup but guess what the flu kicked his ass and he tried to play because he is a competitor but he was walking dead.
It is unfortunate , lousy for us Rutgers fans , lousy for the team. Costs is badly needed wins.
In order to have Rutgers win , we need a healthy Dylan to win. He was playing like the best player on the country. You do not take him off the team and realistically have a good chance to win , although ACE at Indiana almost willed us to win but got zero help from the supporting cast. He needs to become healthy and start attacking g teams again and then the winning will resume.
 
Agree w everything you laid out! I think it’s more than the “flu”. Hopefully he’s back Thursday because as you stated JMike and Jwill are not winning us games
Some of this flu/ Covid crap has lingering effects and I know tons of people that felt like they got the shit knocked out of them for 10 days. The frustrating part is an 18 year old healthy person is still having the shit knocked out of him.
 
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Recentering this thread… I think there’s a chance that we win both with Dylan playing, although I don’t think Ace goes for 39 alongside Dylan nor does he help our defensive rebounding incompetence much.

But ultimately this is what happens when you lose to, much less even fathom scheduling, games against Kennesaw State and Princeton. Guys get sick and guys get hurt during the course of a season, but its not really bad luck when you’re playing do-or-die games in early January
 
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I think the focus on the optics is stupid fan shit. He was game time decision at Indiana but the flu kicked his ass and he couldn’t go. He had 4 days to recoup but guess what the flu kicked his ass and he tried to play because he is a competitor but he was walking dead.
It is unfortunate , lousy for us Rutgers fans , lousy for the team. Costs is badly needed wins.
In order to have Rutgers win , we need a healthy Dylan to win. He was playing like the best player on the country. You do not take him off the team and realistically have a good chance to win , although ACE at Indiana almost willed us to win but got zero help from the supporting cast. He needs to become healthy and start attacking g teams again and then the winning will resume.
Sorry, highly paid athletes, scrutiny and stupid fan shit comes with your bank account.
Right or wrong!
 
you know the season has gone off the rails when people are criticizing a kid and coaching staff for how they handled the flu lol...sheesh

i mean he sat and watched a game. the hell is the difference between doing that and being home watching a game? and he lives next to the arena...

agreed though...strong possibility we win both and for sure i think we won the home game with Dylan
It’s not the flu. He tweaked something groin/knee related right leg last week Monday versus Columbia. He wouldn’t have been in the game or on the bench @indiana with the flu.
 
It’s not the flu. He tweaked something groin/knee related right leg last week Monday versus Columbia. He wouldn’t have been in the game or on the bench @indiana with the flu.
You didn’t watch the game. Wasn’t injury. He had no energy. After one or two trips up the floor he was gassed . Shots were way short.
 
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It’s not the flu. He tweaked something groin/knee related right leg last week Monday versus Columbia. He wouldn’t have been in the game or on the bench @indiana with the flu.
Absolutely wrong . He had the flu. Some know this as fact.
 
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Sorry, highly paid athletes, scrutiny and stupid fan shit comes with your bank account.
Right or wrong!
Wrong. Going to the women’s game where he sat on his ass just he would be doing at home did nothing to take away from any energy he had. It is a stupid point and trying to justify it and use NIL as the reason you can question the kid is not any better. Dylan and the entire Harper family have been all in at Rutgers. As a competitor , it must have killed him knowing he had no energy to help us yesterday but conspiracy theories and optics is just pure fan bullshit.
 
preseason.. not sold on ranked team.. did not think frosh could compete with all the 5 and 6 year NIL guys stacked on some teams...

..but I am not giving up.. the team CAN still do it. It will be hard.. but most things worth doing are hard.

Time for the big-boy pants for everyone. And team crew-cuts.. little known fact.. bad luck is stored in the ends of hair. Shed it.
 
My OP answers your questions.
At some point days into a sickness, moving around, getting fresh air and moving your blood around is better than laying in bed.
And he probably already had intravenous fluids and rest
when I was young and strong I believed in the sweat-it-out school fo thought.. fight it.. keep moving. And it seemed to work... but maybe that was just because I was hella-active in-general.

now.. as a freshly minted senior citizen... bed.. more bed. And it doesn't really work.. I just don't have the energy to go the other way.

Also in support of showing up.. how many times have you seen athletes do amazing things while ill? Didn't Jordan have an amazing game while ill? My own experience agrees.. its like you are in a zone.. a soft hazy zone.. and I have felt a lot smoother at times while under the weather.

But what Harper had seems bad. And I agree.. we beat Wisky and come close, at least, at Indiana. And I think this team still has a high upside.
 
preseason.. not sold on ranked team.. did not think frosh could compete with all the 5 and 6 year NIL guys stacked on some teams...

..but I am not giving up.. the team CAN still do it. It will be hard.. but most things worth doing are hard.

Time for the big-boy pants for everyone. And team crew-cuts.. little known fact.. bad luck is stored in the ends of hair. Shed it.
Derkack has a bowl cut so that hairstyle would be an improvement for him. But there is zero chance that Peter Noble, our 50% shooter from three point range, is going to part ways with his moptop style do!
 
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Shelby isn’t convinced it’s the flu just because Pike said so. A ripe opportunity for Coachspeak. It could be an uninformed dingbat’s (no such thing as a virus strand) catch-all also covering mono, or an artfully chosen word which is a less-derogatory ailment more would have sympathy for.

Mono has Similar symptoms often including weight loss, is less contagious and usually a longer recovery period.

How do we know it’s really the flu ?

Coaches ply bullshit all the time. “Grant two best practices” this week. LOL
 
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Even with Harper don't know if they win either game.
WHAT?!

You mean you cannot just visit an alternate timeline in the megaverse where Harper was healthy for both games and there were no other changes in the worlds affecting those games so you could KNOW the results if Harper was healthy?

I understand the reluctance. We had Dylan and Ace and lost to Princeton. In a world where that is possible, no game is a given. But seeing how both the Indiana and Wisconsin games went.. I side with thinking a healthy Harper makes the difference for a W. Of course, Indiana lost a top player very early in that game.. so, of the 2 games.. I have more doubt on that healthy-Harper-assisted W.
 
It’s not the flu. He tweaked something groin/knee related right leg last week Monday versus Columbia. He wouldn’t have been in the game or on the bench @indiana with the flu.
There is some suspicion that Dylan took at least one shot from the grassy knoll.
 
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No one outside grumpy old men on the message board care that Dylan was at the women's game

What % of fans even know he was there? <1%?
Mid 40’s not grumpy and I don’t care but being at the woman’s game on Sunday and not being able to go Monday and then going up to the Don Bosco game Tuesday is not a good look.

Weird acting Flu!

Optics hopefully learning experience for the NBA.
 
Wrong. Going to the women’s game where he sat on his ass just he would be doing at home did nothing to take away from any energy he had. It is a stupid point and trying to justify it and use NIL as the reason you can question the kid is not any better. Dylan and the entire Harper family have been all in at Rutgers. As a competitor , it must have killed him knowing he had no energy to help us yesterday but conspiracy theories and optics is just pure fan bullshit.
Sorry again!
Just because you think it’s wrong and unjust, and the fans questioning it are wrong, doesn’t stop the questions.
Why iis a million dollar pay check for an 18 year old not justification to question him?

I’ve said multiple times, going to that game had nothing to do with sapping his strength, and had nothing to do with his inability to play….im also positive the doctors and trainers were fine with it….So I agree with you.

But I’ll be damned if his presence didn’t tell me he was on the mend and ready to go
 
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the nerve of this kid! supporting his old teammates...

stay your a** at home, make some chicken soup, get another blanket and start getting locked in for purdue!
Not a bad idea if you’re weak, attempting to regain your strength and can’t play.
Let’s all hope like crazy his presence at his old school means he’s practicing at close to full strength and ready to go tomorrow 🙏
 
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Sorry again!
Just because you think it’s wrong and unjust, and the fans questioning it are wrong, doesn’t stop the questions.
Why iis a million dollar pay check for an 18 year old not justification to question him?

I’ve said multiple times, going to that game had nothing to do with sapping his strength, and had nothing to do with his inability to play….im also positive the doctors and trainers were fine with it….So I agree with you.

But I’ll be damned if his presence didn’t tell me he was on the mend and ready to go

It's really amusing the reactions.
As you correctly pointed out (and probably had to deal with) it doesn't really matter if the criticism is warranted or not.
The "public" makes a big deal out of everything.

And highly paid athletes (and celebrities) just have to deal with it.
As you say, it comes with the money.
Everything gets scrutinized.
This isn't some new phenomenon.

Part of the game is learning to avoid those situations and dealing with the fallout when it doesn't work out.

If we won, nobody cares about Dylan going to the womens game.
Just like if the Giants won, nobody would have cared about the boat trip.
Instead it would have been "team bonding trip helped them beat the Packers".
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-boat-party-following-playoff-loss-to-packers
 
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