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Basketball Eugene Omoruyi Transferring per Instagram

Grateful thanks to Eugene for his contribution here on the Banks. He came to a program that was coming off a 7-25 season with a new coach, a lot of questions and for three years he left it all out on the court. He gave Rutgers every last measure of his devotion and the program is in a better place than when he got here. Good luck to Eugene whatever his future brings him.

The program will continue to improve. The name on the front of the jersey is the only one that matters, so it's next man up and upstream Red team!
He came to a 7-25 program because we were the only school that was willing to give him a look. He was brutal when he first arrived in Piscataway. To his credit, he busted his ass to improve, but there's no need to thank him for coming to RU.
 
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Oh please..this quitter doesn't deserve one ounce of gratitude. Let the door slam him on the way out. Little prick couldn't even spell pikiells name right, let the program announce his transfer, or transfer when we could acquire an adequate replacement. He was treated like a king here even when he couldn't play and even given minutes when he wasn't at 100% that probably hurt our team. He cares about himself and he can go rot on someone's bench when his knee blows out.

The difference between you and I is that I'm not upset. Thanks, good luck, next man up. We have the most talented roster we've had in decades, why get upset because one guy with a questionable knee moves on? People move on all the time. It's the nature of the sport.
 
These players will be even hungrier now. Im telling you this ultimately will have us better positioned

Eh. 50% of teams across NCAA in all sports has something similar in nature happen every year and they all tweet stuff like this after. Not putting any additional stock in something that’s just par for the course.

They’re already hungry anyway.
 
Who has been the leader on the court? How about off the court? Is it Geo, Eugene, Ron, someone else ?
 
Why is it concerning?
Why is it disheartening?

It is what it is.
For starters,maybe because finally RU had a chance to make the tournament after 28 years,but losing one,if not your best player will kill that chance?
 
Because he led the team in touches, holds the ball way too long on possessions, isn't a knock down 3 point shooter and is a low post player, getting in the way of Myles Johnson.

There's no upside for having roster duplication and toughness is important...but I am not emotionally attached to any player, coach, assistant coach, trainer or anyone in between. When you put on the uniform and assess things from a basketball perspective, RU has a comparable player, better shooter and ball handler in the fold and Eugene and Yeboah would have been here for 1 more year.

They're the same type of player, one is healthy and more versatile and a better shooter and as long as Yeboah shares the ball and moves it, RU will be fine.

It is fine to have that opinion while also acknowledging that losing Eugene is a huge loss.

If you are 100% right, at the very least, we lose front court depth. Between Doorson & Eugene we lose our two best post defenders. If we have injuries in the front court now, we're in major trouble.

I still think our team will have a great year in spite of this but to act like its not a big deal I think is naive.
 
One could see many reasons why EO was to transfer. They are not as behind the scenes as it appears.
 
Ron Harper said it best above

I’m with Hawk here guys

I didn’t want Eugene to transfer...and it’s not good that he did...

But it’s not the 14 ppg we will miss. It’s the rebounds and defense. And it’s possible that we get more offense out of his minutes from more yeboah and Harper at the four

Remember how many of you said that Corey was a negative because he need the ball in his hands for long periods of time to score...and we will be better for the ball moving when he leaves?

Well...same with Eugene. Ball went to the post and didn’t come back out too often.

Wish him well...I appreciate what he gave us ...but I All in on the guys we have here ...nothing has changed in my outlook for the year except we are thinner up front in case of an injury. That’s the big risk
 
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The difference between you and I is that I'm not upset. Thanks, good luck, next man up. We have the most talented roster we've had in decades, why get upset because one guy with a questionable knee moves on? People move on all the time. It's the nature of the sport.
I'm not upset either. I just don't think he deserves a pat on the back for running the race and going home when things were just heating up. He was brought in to be a leader by his senior year. Way to lead...not.
 
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For starters,maybe because finally RU had a chance to make the tournament after 28 years,but losing one,if not your best player will kill that chance?
You actually think this kills our chances for the tournament? That's why everyone called yeboah Eugene insurance. A lot of disrespect for yeboahs game going on right now.
 
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This kid is not special. He wasn't special until he got here and pikiell put his blood sweat and tears into the kid. And he rewards him with a 12 am "I'm outta here" and not spelling his name right. What an absolutely putrid kid.

Get outta here with this nonsense.

EO is doing what he, and his family feels is best for himself. He put blood, sweat, and tears in himself. PIkiell helped, but let´s give credit to the player.

6 months ago everyone loved him. You have no idea what kind of kid he is.
 
You actually think this kills our chances for the tournament? That's why everyone called yeboah Eugene insurance. A lot of disrespect for yeboahs game going on right now.

Expectations for the tournament were with Yeboah being additive, not instead of. We were looking at three strong 6-6/230 players taking 90% of the minutes at the 3/4 spots, with Carter/Doucoure getting backup minutes behind Johnson. Now Carter/Doucoure are likely to see more minutes.
 
Here's one for you.

Omoruyi in Big Ten losses: 15.2 PPG

Omoruyi in Big Ten wins: 8.6 PPG

His contributions obviously go much deeper than PPG but that's kind of surprising, yeah?

There is something to this ...

It is what it is guys

I didn’t want him to transfer ...but I think we will be fine.
 
Who has been the leader on the court? How about off the court? Is it Geo, Eugene, Ron, someone else ?

Geo and Harper to my eyes. I only see what is on the court.

Eugene's play is "leadership quality" and is a great example. There is a bit more to being a leader than playing like one. However playing like one is primary
 
Carino owned some idiot trying to downplay this

Carino sometimes isn't as smart as he thinks he is. He was citing the coaching staff, I guess, saying that they felt EO was the most important player. But Carino also got on one last year about how the Rutgers coaches wanted Corey Sanders to stay and how important he was. But I'm 100% convinced we would've been a worse team with Sanders here last year AND the impact would've rippled to this year because guys like McConnell would not have gotten the experience they did. Does Ron Harper score 27 against Iowa if Sanders is on the team? No chance.

Carino is an outstanding beat writer and New Jersey is lucky to have him. As an analyst I don't think he brings much.



 
Carino sometimes isn't as smart as he thinks he is. He was citing the coaching staff, I guess, saying that they felt EO was the most important player. But Carino also got on one last year about how the Rutgers coaches wanted Corey Sanders to stay and how important he was. But I'm 100% convinced we would've been a worse team with Sanders here last year.


Everyone here says trust the coaches. Now Carino reiterates Pikes feelings and you don’t trust Carino? Spin for the sake of spin.

Also, we would’ve been better with Corey. Again, people saying we are better without having quality depth are admitting no faith in the coach to make it all work. Addition by subtraction is a real thing, no doubt, but it’s usually a case of a bad teammate/attitude.

Yeboah will step up. We’d just be better off with both of them.
 
It is fine to have that opinion while also acknowledging that losing Eugene is a huge loss.

If you are 100% right, at the very least, we lose front court depth. Between Doorson & Eugene we lose our two best post defenders. If we have injuries in the front court now, we're in major trouble.

I still think our team will have a great year in spite of this but to act like its not a big deal I think is naive.

I DVR most if not all the games, including the final 3 games or trainwrecks, depending on your viewpoint.

Eugene at best was 60%, could not move laterally vs Penn State at home, had shots blocked or altered in the low post and could not elevate to shoot the ball. If defended properly and a player was his height and didn't go for the pump fake, he was in trouble and best move was to draw fouls and get to the FT line.

Eugene became a clutch FT shooter, but we're not losing anything since Yeboah has a 75% FT or better stat line.

This isn't spin, it's really difficult to see where Eugene was going to factor in during summer workouts....how healthy can he have possibly been?? How does the team with a talented roster and higher expectations, wait for Eugene to decide on having his knee truly fixed and redshirting.

In either case, a redshirt and 5th year after Yeboah, Carter departed, was probably the smart move for Eugene, but kids have pride, ego and swagger, which I like. He ran the risk of missing parts or all of his senior season, which is hard to fathom, but a realistic scenario.

If Eugene was totally healthy, with nothing like this in place and Yeboah wasn't in place, fans should be upset, because in that scenario, it would be a loss.

Losing Mike Rosario, echenique, Eli.Carter etc in past years, didn't matter because there were no stakes or hope of turning the corner....there was no depth behind the starters.

Now a kid transfers and fans are up in arms, when he could have

A) Missed part or all of this season with an injury.

B) Redshirted and missed all of next season, to get his knee truly healthy.

C) played at 70 to 75% at best all summer with no true solution in place for his lack of mobility.

D) Transfer to another school and decide to play his 5th year, have the necessary surgery now, sit out and become an impact player somewhere else.

In every scenario, there's no guarantee EO was going to make it through this year and would not have been close to 100% at any point. I see this as a door opening to find a player that wants to be a sit out transfer for this year, a JUCO that can alter or block shots and be a quality bench player.

We don't need a starter to replace Eugene, we have one in Yeboah. We are replacing EO with a 2020 recruit, since he was scheduled to graduate after this season.

It's shocking to see "transfer", but given all the facts, it's not a huge loss, since he could've gone down in Game 3 and been the Eugene at the end of the season.

And I think EO knew that deep down....if you rewatch the trainwreck of the Nebraska game in the B1G tournament, he couldn't move, was getting his shot blocked and was so frustrated, that he nearly seriously hurt James Palmer, by shoving him in mid air on a dunk attempt at the end of the game. It was a dangerous play, that could've really been a bad look.

Putting all the pieces together, let's see what the roster and recruiting class looks like for 2019 and 2020 by October. RU has been in much worse spots historically, this is a blip on the radar as of today.
 
Everyone here says trust the coaches. Now Carino reiterates Pikes feelings and you don’t trust Carino? Spin for the sake of spin.

Also, we would’ve been better with Corey. Again, people saying we are better without having quality depth are admitting no faith in the coach to make it all work. Addition by subtraction is a real thing, no doubt, but it’s usually a case of a bad teammate/attitude.

Yeboah will step up. We’d just be better off with both of them.

Either I don't trust Carino or I don't trust the coaching staff... or maybe both. I've said plenty of times I feel the staff is doing a B or B+ job. Which after our past decade is a hell of an accomplishment. But I think there have been misses and mistakes and I think I've been fair in criticizing those while crediting the (many) successes.
 
I don’t see how this makes sense for him since he will have to sit out a year. Why not just miss a year here and get the surgery? Any chance he is going to go down to Division 2 or some foreign pro team has told him he can play for them with a bum knee?
 
Pikiell is heading to Ontario to try to re-recruit him:

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketbal...ls-best-recruiting-pitch-is-ahead-of-him.html

Hours after Eugene Omoruyi announced his intentions to transfer in a stunning Instagram post early Wednesday morning, Pikiell is believed to be en route to Omoruyi’s native Ontario in an attempt to convince his leading scorer and rebounder to change his mind, a person familiar with the situation told NJ Advance Media on Wednesday.

Seems like that would indicate he's as blindsided as all of us. Doesn't seem like EO maybe indicated behind the scenes that this might happen, and Pikiell couldn't convince him, and so he made it public.
 
Also this. Omoruyi wants to sit out this next year?

The person, who requested anonymity because he/she was not authorized to speak publicly about the situation, said Omoruyi was considering sitting out the 2019-20 campaign in order to rehabilitate his knees (Omoruyi dislocated his kneecap in each of the past two seasons and clearly was hobbled late last year).

If that's his wish, Pikiell/Rutgers should oblige.
 
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Either I don't trust Carino or I don't trust the coaching staff... or maybe both. I've said plenty of times I feel the staff is doing a B or B+ job. Which after our past decade is a hell of an accomplishment. But I think there have been misses and mistakes and I think I've been fair in criticizing those while crediting the (many) successes.

Fair enough
 
Pikiell is heading to Ontario to try to re-recruit him:

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketbal...ls-best-recruiting-pitch-is-ahead-of-him.html



Seems like that would indicate he's as blindsided as all of us. Doesn't seem like EO maybe indicated behind the scenes that this might happen, and Pikiell couldn't convince him, and so he made it public.

Wow. There had to be a conversation about surgery/sitting out between the two then. Not sure how Pike could not be on the pulse of potential fallout.
 
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Source in that article mentioned the rehab knee. I would suppose hed want to do that at a premier program then get a bigger national spotlight? Only thought process i could fathom.

Also sounds like Pike tried to get him to circumvent rehab for post-season run?
 
this is a clandestine statement.
Do tell more on the 'many reasons"

Many people have already mentioned them here.

Search around. One could point to many reasons. Maybe Omoruyi took it as a personal shot that they would bring a one year player in for his last year, in his position. He may have thought the staff did not trust his ability to perform, or stay healthy. Kids want to feel appreciated these days at all times.

There are probably around 5 reasons, and they all could be right.
 
Man is this is turning out to be very Echinique like? Need a lot more info.

Seems like this transfer is so far out of left field no reporters really know what’s happening and are throwing a lot of rumors up against the wall hoping they find out what’s sticks.
 
this is such a nothing burger and next man up situation like the spinmaster say that Pike is on a plane up to this AM,Canada to try and talk Eugene out of leaving.
 
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