Basketball Eugene Omoruyi Transferring per Instagram

[Greene Rice FIG]

@Greene Rice FIG , watch the below highlights with a focus on Eugene. I really like Eugene as a player, but either the kid was running on fumes at the end of the year or he needs to get his knee fixed imo.

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I 100% agree with your assessment. I reject any argument that we don't miss a healthy Eugene all that much.

We played like complete garbage the 3 games Eugene was out with 2 of them being no shows on defense. small sample size, yes. However I am confident that Eugene means a LOT on the defensive side of the court.

He definitely was playing at 50% towards the end of the season.

we don't miss a Eugene on one leg if that is what you are saying.

This team with a Eugene on 1 leg OR a team with no Eugene at all HAS to be on paper 3-4 wins below a team with a healthy Eugene. Having said that in sports you can finish a decent amount above what stats say you should be. The difference between 15 win and 19 wins can be 4 possessions in a season with over 2,000.

In baseball here is a great example. 2018 Mariners get outscored but win 89 games

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SEA/2018.shtml

 

[rucoe89]

Let’s be real. This is because Pike brought in Hayn as an assistant.


Just kidding! :)

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Let’s be real. This is because Pike brought in Hayn as an assistant.


Just kidding! :)

Can't rule it out.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Pike is already 0 for 1 rerecruiting his own players when returning to the banks is clearly in their best interest.

We will see if he can get a W here.

2 things.

1. some said we got Yeboah because staff thought Eugene might be leaving. Doesn't appear this is the case.

2. What makes you think Pike was 0 for 1? Do you know this for a fact OR could he have been 0 for 0?

 

[Knight Ed]

He will find a home. We can't be the only school in the country with a scholarship to give at this point of the year.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

He's gotta be going to a sure-thing NCAA Tourney team. Otherwise this makes no sense... maybe if he's following a girlfriend or getting closer to relatives.. otherwise.. this has to be about making sure he gets to the Dance at least once.

Maybe he has issues with other players? No.. cannot be that.. he was the clear leader. Can't be about Pike, could it?

 

[KnightTerrors]

Get outta here with this nonsense.

EO is doing what he, and his family feels is best for himself. He put blood, sweat, and tears in himself. PIkiell helped, but let´s give credit to the player.

6 months ago everyone loved him. You have no idea what kind of kid he is.

6 months? Try 6 hours.

He went from being a gritty fan favorite to "ehh he was a ball hog. Screw him. We don't need him".

What a good reminder of the ignorance that comes out on this board the second there is any hardship.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

This team with a Eugene on 1 leg OR a team with no Eugene at all HAS to be on paper 3-4 wins below a team with a healthy Eugene.

Sad to say it, but that seems to be true. Seeing EO not elevating around the hoop.. I immediately thought he should not be out there.. until I saw us with him not out there for a length of time.

 

[G- RUnit]

And sports fans wonder why Beilein left Michigan for the Cavs? Just nutty and sadly it's us... again.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

It will have to get out eventually, the reasons.

Pike called EO is most valuable player.
And he just decided to walk away. Weird.

What is your prediction on Powell?
You've been a long time SHU fan from Essex County, you have a good pulse on if he stays?

Lol

 

[RutgHoops]

..
This team with a Eugene on 1 leg OR a team with no Eugene at all HAS to be on paper 3-4 wins below a team with a healthy Eugene. ...

I think you are looking at your assessment in a vacuum. For example, a 15-19/3-15 Rutgers team that loses Corey Sanders, Deshaun Freeman and Mike Williams has to be three or four games worse than with them, no? But that analysis in and of itself doesn't account for the team adding Harper, Mathis, McConnell and Myles Johnson. And it turns out we were actually four games better (and better by 70 kenpom spots) after those three left. Not because they left, but rather because the guys we replaced them with (plus another year of development for the remaining players) made the team better.

So, no we aren't better without Eugene. But the team without Eugene (and Doorson) could be better than a year ago with another year of development from the players in the program plus the additions of Young, Yeboah, Mulcahy and Doucoure. I really don't think that is that wild a thought.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

unless another school has been recruiting him on the down low.

Not buying that insane theory. How many schools want an undersized forward who has an injury history and has struggled on the defensive end on the block? And then have to give him a scholly for 2 years for him to only play one?

 

[4theknights]

So sad to hear this news... problem is we may never know if it’s a personal matter where he and coach decide to keep the real reason(s) under wraps. As Pike has said its next man up so a combo of Harp, Carter, Duke and Yoboah need to make it happen.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Looking at it through a Dyson because Hoover was so 1970s!!!!!

I actually said repeatedly to the chagrin of 99.44% board members that we were a better team simply by removing Corey Sanders. Freeman too.

Leaving all else equal we could be only marginally worse without Eugene, but that would mean.......

1. We are a much better team offensively without him
2. The replacement minutes were very good
3. Carter and Duke are ready for B1G wars
4. Chemistry is better without him

 

[willisneverrana43]

Not sure fungible is the correct term but, to me, they are "like for like" players. Doesn't mean one isn't better than the other, but they are (imo) similar players who appear to play the same position with similar skill sets. Freeman/Eugene/Yeboah--I think I would consider to all be similar players

Yeah, that's what I said, fungible.

 

[Caliknight]

He's gotta be going to a sure-thing NCAA Tourney team. Otherwise this makes no sense... maybe if he's following a girlfriend or getting closer to relatives.. otherwise.. this has to be about making sure he gets to the Dance at least once.

Maybe he has issues with other players? No.. cannot be that.. he was the clear leader. Can't be about Pike, could it?

Guessing it's more about Yeboah.

If there is one guy on the team whose minutes he is going to take, it's Gene's. The are essentially the same player. Only Yeboah shoots it better. D we will have to see. Got to give Gene the edge there.

Maybe Gene's feelings got hurt that Pike recruited another stud. Athletes have fragile egos sometimes.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

No.. cannot be that.. he was the clear leader.

i think that is false.

 

[RutgHoops]

Yeah, that's what I said, fungible.

Didn't realize fungible and similar were fungible. [cheers]

Michael Jordan and Clyde Drexler had similar games. Not sure I'd consider the two players fungible.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Guessing it's more about Yeboah.

If there is one guy on the team whose minutes he is going to take, it's Gene's. The are essentially the same player. Only Yeboah shoots it better. D we will have to see. Got to give Gene the edge there.

Maybe Gene's feelings got hurt that Pike recruited another stud. Athletes have fragile egos sometimes.

We can list 10+ reasons why Eugene left. A combination of them could be in play. i wouldn't reject this one.

 

[Caliknight]

Does the team vote captains or does the staff name them?

 

[willisneverrana43]

Wow. Maybe it’s addition by subtraction. . . .

only a matter of time before this phrase, which is almost never right, was whipped out . . .

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

i think that is false.

Who was the team leader then?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I am not saying this......

The POV that this could be a blessing in disguise because of the fact Eugene's knee might make him ineffective this year and it would be very difficult in his senior year to give him limited minutes. Could have been a major potential headache.

That POV of view might be had with someone in the "Bargaining" phase of grief.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Who was the team leader then?

geo

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Who was the team leader then?

Geo Baker

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Geo Baker

okay.. that makes some sense.. I forget who is was that screwed up once with an rough foul late in a game and EO grabbed him around the neck and dragged him off and talked him down.. but that just made me see him as the leader.. but a PG makes more sense

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

only a matter of time before this phrase, which is almost never right, was whipped out . . .

1 MINUS negative 1 EQUALS 2

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

The paint is still wet but has Pike made a statement yet?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

okay.. that makes some sense.. I forget who is was that screwed up once with an rough foul late in a game and EO grabbed him around the neck and dragged him off and talked him down.. but that just made me see him as the leader.. but a PG makes more sense

I forgot already about that.....I remember being in the minority of not liking how Eugene handled that. In that game or maybe the next Eugene hurt us getting in foul trouble with a stupid frustration foul.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

The paint is still wet but has Pike made a statement yet?

Getting on a plane, if true, is enough of a statement for me.

 

[RUsojo]

What similar themes? From day 1 Sanders was looking to leave early to go pro.

Leaving Rutgers when staying is their best option, primarily.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I forgot already about that.....I remember being in the minority of not liking how Eugene handled that. In that game or maybe the next Eugene hurt us getting in foul trouble with a stupid frustration foul.

Oh.. I remember THAT ONE too.. not having use of his leg really messed with him in the end. In the end leaving his teammates proves who the leader was.

 

[RUsojo]

2 things.

1. some said we got Yeboah because staff thought Eugene might be leaving. Doesn't appear this is the case.

2. What makes you think Pike was 0 for 1? Do you know this for a fact OR could he have been 0 for 0?

No I don’t know it for a fact. It’s not a leap that it was in Corey’s best interest long term to finish his last year at Rutgers. Same with Eugene.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Getting on a plane, if true, is enough of a statement for me.

Is he really?

 

[AshCatchEm]

Not buying that insane theory. How many schools want an undersized forward who has an injury history and has struggled on the defensive end on the block? And then have to give him a scholly for 2 years for him to only play one?

More like Eugene gets drunk with his Bros last night who tell him to ditch the school if we're gonna make him sit for a year, writes an abrupt tweet where he doesnt even spell pikiell right, calls Duke today and to his surprise they don't want him, followed by the slow realization that he isn't the hot shit he thinks he is.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

No I don’t know it for a fact. It’s not a leap that it was in Corey’s best interest long term to finish his last year at Rutgers. Same with Eugene.

I thin you have a good point.. Rutgers will be in X games on TV and everyone one of them would have mentioned Geo and EO as the featured players unless we get pleasantly surprised. Wherever he goes.. will he get that treatment?

 

[Caliknight]

This should be a case study in how to not transfer.

 

[Knight Ed]

Team will be better next year with or without him

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

 

[RUPete]

Team will be better next year with or without him

I hope so, but I just don't see it right now. B!G is a war of attrition up front. You need quality depth.