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Basketball Eugene Omoruyi Transferring per Instagram

It's a loss, but every year a graduating class and those that transfer out make college programs need to find replacements for them.
Sometimes what is thought to be a devastating loss is proven not to be by the player already on roster that replaces him.
Mike Williams desire and hustle made him a player many felt would be hard to replace.

EO took Mike's place as the heart and soul of the team and now someone needs to step up and take that mantle from Eugene.
I'm sure someone on roster is capable of doing that and as for EO's contributions while on the court, could be improvements from Johnson and Doucoure might fill that void and Carter with a year of major college experience behind him become a force on the boards . The year of experience the freshman received last year might just blunt EO's loss.
Can't say what Akwasi Yeboah will bring with him, but hope it's the type of heart Eugene has.
This program is changing because of the experience last year's freshmen gained, Young being able to play, Geo not strapped into being the ball handler and having others capable of taking that load off him so he can
play more of the role his talent is suited for.

Yes losing Omoruyi will hurt, but spinning him as devastating loss when it comes to Rutgers being better this season isn't something I'll agree with right now.
It is a loss, but RU just might be able to overcome his loss better than we think.
Plus with the experience gained by last year's freshman and new player on roster, Pike might be playing a different type of game that
will make it easier to replace EO and not worry about if his knees will hold up playing a lot of minutes throughout the season.
Yup its a nice spin when the leading scorer and rebounder leaves your team suddenly and you want to spin that adding some transfer who has never played a minute with rest of roster will just step in for him without missing a beat?suddenly there is depth also?
#spin
 
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Yup its a nice spin when the leading scorer and rebounder leaves your team suddenly and you want to spin that adding some transfer who has never played a minute with rest of roster will just step in for him without missing a beat?suddenly there is depth also?
#spin

To some extent, getting rebounds is like a baseball team getting wins. Like the Orioles are still going to win 50 games this year. And Rutgers is still going to get rebounds. Freeman was our leading rebounder in 2017-18. We lost him and both our offensive and defensive rebounding percentages improved. Omoruyi was a good rebounder but not a special one. He didn't rank in the top 15 in the league in OReb% or DReb%.
 
I hope it works out with Eugene realizing he'd rather come back, even if he takes a medical redshirt year to rehab the knee and plays in 2020-21. That would take some work to rebuild bridges with the coaches and teammates based on this being a total blindside move, assuming that is accurate. If the locker room can make it work, great!

But if he decides he doesn't want to be a part of the program going forward, for me it'll be...

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And I will root like crazy for the guys that are still Scarlet Knights.
 
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Where's the supporting information for all of this....there's no facts, no stats, no anything here.

You spend an inordinate amount of time and effort on the March madness teams, although a lot of the "facts" are rehashed items via ESPN.

For a veteran of this board for many years before I even landed here, my own expectations for some posters change.

Instead of getting into emotional panic, provide some level of details....explain how there's no one else on the roster capable of knocking down 3s....explain how you can guarantee his knee is 75%, 80%....how were his workouts this spring??

There are a couple of people I asked around about general information on how things are progressing....Information is very easy to find, if you ask around....the facts are the sophomores are developing and gaining a lot of confidence....and Yeboah arriving is the layer of confidence that covered us, in case Eugene went down a 3rd time.

Yeboah, Harper provide a different and more dynamic skill set, shooting range, athletic ability and that's not hype or a guess. There's a track record that frosh like Harper sometimes take steps forward in their sophomore season.

Would you feel better if Eugene played next year in the physical condition he ended the season with, less than 90 days ago??

The soon to be sophomores are adding to their games and I'm extremely confident that Yeboah is Eugene insurance. Eugene could have gotten hurt in December or January...what would the answer be then??

There's 5 full months and then some, before this team suits up again. Instead of panicking and blowing things out of proportion, don't guess....

This is Corey Sanders 2.0.....anyone thinking the freshman all perform and took steps forward with Sanders here, don't have any relevant reasons to state that.....there's one basketball and there are enough players in place to offset the difference.

Here's my best case scenario.....Eugene wisely comes down from orbit, realizes his knee isn't going to get better, he's getting cooked and worked in workouts and isn't healthy enough to keep up as of today.

This isn't a guess....it's where things are today. Maybe he heals up and returns, but fences will have to be mended....and how is Eugene going to handle seeing Yeboah knock down 3s.....Harper knock down shots and others becoming more confident IF he returns???

Can Eugene defer and allow the roster to grow....?? Or will he feel pressure to prove he's a good player by scoring or taking shots, not passing the ball...???

These are real issues and scenarios, in your "enormous loss", comments. Time to get the head out of the clouds, this roster needs to dial in and stay focused, not become distracted by the EO show.....


for starters I do not rehash anything from espn, I do not visit their site, I hardly watch it so not sure where that comment is coming from

secondly we lose the HEART AND SOUL PERIOD/. Who got the rebounds late, who got the free throws late, who was the calming influence late. Who showed up

RU could survive Sanders leaving because he wasnt a team player and was no leader. Yet Sanders left and the team finished with a worse record even with more talent.

Eugene wasnt knocking down 3s...I am concerned about rebounding. Once again we have posters pinning their hopes on a lesser league players like Yeboah coming and being gangbusters..how did that work for Kiss where multiple posters laid rose petals at his feet....and I like Yeboah, he is a great addition, but lets be real here as well, he comes from Stony Brook, things are a lot different in the Big East as an undersized guy. Also we lost Shaq and now Doucoure who is incredibly questionable is up next...the loss of Eugene really puts pressure on him to perform and its wishful thinking until he does perform.
 
$250 Scarlet R bet we have a better record next year than this past season. You in? Better overall, better B1G record whatever you want. We just lost our heart and soul. Our toughest warrior. Easy bet, no?.


RU was only 14-17...why would I take that bet with an easy schedule

you miss the point but carry on and think all is well, its spin less than a day after he bolts. Its not Pikes fault and Eugene should get lots of criticism on this but the typical RU thing is to say oh its no big deal, oh its no big deal to lose your senior starter and breadwinner.
 
To some extent, getting rebounds is like a baseball team getting wins. Like the Orioles are still going to win 50 games this year. And Rutgers is still going to get rebounds. Freeman was our leading rebounder in 2017-18. We lost him and both our offensive and defensive rebounding percentages improved. Omoruyi was a good rebounder but not a special one. He didn't rank in the top 15 in the league in OReb% or DReb%.


tell me who gets the rebounds this year
 
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RU could survive Sanders leaving because he wasnt a team player and was no leader. Yet Sanders left and the team finished with a worse record even with more talent.

RU went from 3 B1G wins to 7 B1G wins (in a tougher league). Went from #130 in kenpom to #78. Sports Illustrated called us the most improved team in the country. Takes a special kind of twisting to say we were worse a year ago.
 
RU went from 3 B1G wins to 7 B1G wins (in a tougher league). Went from #130 in kenpom to #78. Sports Illustrated called us the most improved team in the country. Takes a special kind of twisting to say we were worse a year ago.


talking record...well actually 15-19 is similar to 14-17..point remains, RU had a slew of new talent last year and still was similar to previous season in the end

and Eugene was responsible for much of that..no? the team was hot garbage for the 3 games he missed
 
RU was only 14-17...why would I take that bet with an easy schedule

you miss the point but carry on and think all is well, its spin less than a day after he bolts. Its not Pikes fault and Eugene should get lots of criticism on this but the typical RU thing is to say oh its no big deal, oh its no big deal to lose your senior starter and breadwinner.

We won 7 B1G games last season. I say we win more than 7. I say we finish better than #78 in kenpom. I'll throw out the overall record if you like. Pick any measure you like. I say we will be better. B1G record. Kenpom rating. You like NET ranking we can use that if you like.
 
Man, what a cesspool basketball is. You have to be recruiting your own roster as much as you are recruiting for your roster. I wouldn't get into that profession if i was making Saban money.
 
that is your call, I disagree, you are entitled to your opinion, its year 4, this team will not be going to the NCAA next season, it pushes the timeline back another year where NIT becomes a 50/50 proposition
 
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talking record...well actually 15-19 is similar to 14-17..point remains, RU had a slew of new talent last year and still was similar to previous season in the end

and Eugene was responsible for much of that..no? the team was hot garbage for the 3 games he missed

If you think the '17'-18 team and the '18-'19 team were similar in terms of season result then I don't know what to say other than there is not one coach in the B1G that would share your opinion.
 
When building a team there are players you, as a coach, try and build the team around and then there are players you build the team with. Corey was a guy RU tried to build the team around. It is harder to replace and/or overcome the loss of the player, like Corey, who is the guy around whom the team is built. I do not see him as the guy this team was being built around. As a matter of fact I don't think we have that one guy just yet. As a result Pike has put together a team of ten/eleven players that are a blend of interchangeable parts. Consequently I think EO's loss is replaceable. I am not saying he is replaceable because he wasn't that good. The guy was fabulous for us at times and I loved his game. But, the way this team is constituted I think we could be as good without him only because there are guys here who fit his role and style well. We will be different, but not necessarily worse.
 
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If you think the '17'-18 team and the '18-'19 team were similar in terms of season result then I don't know what to say other than there is not one coach in the B1G that would share your opinion.


dude I am talking about record...because in the end that is how everything is measured. the program still has not had a plus 500 season in eons....Eugene was a major factor in last years improvement on the court, you seem to ignore that. He was arguably the most consistent player and best player....so you be you and downplay it. I also dont think one coach would say that its no loss for RU
 
When building a team there are players you, as a coach, try and build the team around and then there are players you build the team with. Corey was a guy RU tried to build the team around. It is harder to replace and/or overcome the loss of the player, like Corey, who is the guy around whom the team is built. I do not see him as the guy this team was being built around. As a matter of fact I don't think we have that one guy just yet. As a result Pike has put together a team of ten/eleven players that are a blend of interchangeable parts. Consequently I think EO's loss is replaceable. I am not saying he is replaceable because he wasn't that good. The guy was fabulous for us at times and I loved his game. But, the way this team is constituted I think we could be as good without him only because there are guys here who fit his role and style well. We will be different, but not necessarily worse.


he will be replaced but where is this guy...that guy is in the future, what it does is impact a chance for a special run NEXT SEASON which alot of people were rallying around (not necessarily me)

the question is will it be easier or harder to get to the NCAA next season with or without Eugene or the same
 
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dude I am talking about record...because in the end that is how everything is measured. the program still has not had a plus 500 season in eons....Eugene was a major factor in last years improvement on the court, you seem to ignore that. He was arguably the most consistent player and best player....so you be you and downplay it. I also dont think one coach would say that its no loss for RU

I'll wager we have a better record this coming season than we did last. Without Eugene.
 
Can anyone dig into Canadian and or aau teammates and or coaches that Eugene had. I think he was a teammate of ziggy at Michigan but can’t see a fellow big 10 school tamper with him. Kansas or Duke? Hypocrite coach k has poached us before.

Zero chance Duke is going after a 2 for 1 with knee issues who, in the grand scheme of college basketball, is slightly above average. Unless the want some back ups. He's certainly not going to go to Duke and take minutes from a one and done lottery pick.

Maybe he doesn't mind being a back up in that case. Who knows.
 
that is your call, I disagree, you are entitled to your opinion, its year 4, this team will not be going to the NCAA next season, it pushes the timeline back another year where NIT becomes a 50/50 proposition

We wouldn’t go to the NCAA anyway with our garbage OOC schedule though. 19 wins wouldn’t get us in the NIT with it either.
 
We wouldn’t go to the NCAA anyway with our garbage OOC schedule though. 19 wins wouldn’t get us in the NIT with it either.


I agree but the hot take on this board has been for posters to get beyond their skis and put NCAA expectations for next year...hope the ones saying this isnt a loss keep those same expectations up then
 
bac how do you even know his knee is well enough to get those rebounds you assume? you are and have always been a negatoid when it comes to RU except for your fav--Julie--let's just see what happens --you are usually wrong
 
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It is a loss. How big depends on what type of offense Pikiell looks to run, and how good Yaboa is. Tampering doesn’t make a ton of sense. Well see how it shakes out. I’d still take PIkiells job. Not sure how long I’d last, though. NCAA sports is nasty and corrupt.
 
I agree but the hot take on this board has been for posters to get beyond their skis and put NCAA expectations for next year...hope the ones saying this isnt a loss keep those same expectations up then
It’s a loss. But still a lot of time til August. Who knows who we can get.
The problem is depth. Stony brook guy can replace production, no problem. But we need a back up guy and soon
 
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It’s a loss. But still a lot of time til August. Who knows who we can get.
The problem is depth. Stony brook guy can replace production, no problem. But we need a back up guy and soon


yup depth and consider me not sold on Doucoure at all until he proves something....you are right there is still time, but the hot take spinning has got me fuming, RU can recover from it but today its a body blow
 
I can't tell you specifically. Baylor finished 2nd in the nation in offensive rebounding without a starter taller than 6'7".


great...how many double double for Eugene last year..i dont care what he finished overall in stats in the country, I want to know his percentage of rebounds he got for this team
 
bac how do you even know his knee is well enough to get those rebounds you assume? you are and have always been a negatoid when it comes to RU except for your fav--Julie--let's just see what happens --you are usually wrong


yes way to throw him under bus...we dont need him because he is hurt...love that particular spin
 
yup depth and consider me not sold on Doucoure at all until he proves something....you are right there is still time, but the hot take spinning has got me fuming, RU can recover from it but today its a body blow
Agree on Doucore.
One thought - Harper may not be done growing and may be that “stretch 4” everyone oogles about. So that means Yeboah (sp?) could back up the three and four as originally envisioned. Then you could interchange the five guards/swingmen (baker, mulcahy, McConnell, Mathis and young) anywhere from 1 through 3. And Myles at center.
Not spinning the loss by any means, but that lineup sounds fun.
 
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