False gods lol ? Give me a break.
Sports is based on loyalty. Doesn't matter if it's pro, college, or HS.
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Sports is based on loyalty. Doesn't matter if it's pro, college, or HS.
You've avoided addressing the use of the word worship in the post that you like. Is this intentional? It worries me and calls into question your loyalty. So I must ask you sir: are you loyal to Rutgers, first, last and always or, more important, have you displaced that loyalty with the worship of a false god?
LSU #9 could kick the crap out of a lot of men.OT. This wasn't the only fight involving college teams this weekend. The Women's soccer teams from LSU and Ole Miss got into it too.
Video: Crazy Fight At Women's College Soccer Match
A fight broke out during a women's soccer match on Sunday afternoon. LSU and Ole Miss played in the SEC Tournament on Sunday afternoon and things got prettythespun.com
I mean... the players names and numbers were in plain view in the video. I don't think anyone is questioning whether or not what they did warrants a suspension.
Now is the deeper dive into all the facts to decide how long, or if there will be additional punitive action.
The Ole Miss player started it after the LSU player played used some nifty defense to steal the ball. The Ole Miss player than grabbed the LSU player from behind with both arms and then used her right arm to hack down on the LSU player. That's when the LSU player turned and threw a punch, with the Ole Miss player ready to throw a retailiatory punch, before she walked away acting as if she hadn't done anything. Later and LSU player was the "third-lady in" on the fight, and she should have been booted.
Think you have to look at the whole exchange between him and me. It was plain weird. Started as a discussion of suspensions. Pivoted to RU fans wishing for suspensions to help their chances, then hero worship, then a bad night (there are no bad nights at the shore?). @willisneverrana43 's analogy is not far off.
Small correction (you and I agree on a lot of stuff, especially on NYM, but I will not digress). The Ole Miss player did land a slap, not a punch. That second LSU player was pretty vicious.
10 years ago Saturday would qualify as a very bad day lol. Other than that, you're right.
Ya know, I was thinking about that last night or this morning. While our homes in Belmar sustained a lot of damage, a lot of good came out of that event. A lot of mitigation with the outfall pipe at Lake Como, which was long overdue. And raising homes to sensible levels. We never raised the Belmar homes. The flooding problems on Brielle Road and around the Main Street bridge will continually get worse, but if you raised your home, as long as your vehicles are on high ground, it can be dealt with.
It was definitely weird. It was the introduction of entirely out of context "stuff" in his head, apparently carried over from some other thread(s), that was so weird.
Taken as a statement without considering context, then it was just a statement about valuing the program over any individual associated with the program. And that's fine, if stated either in a thread where people are expressing worship of GS, or in a vacuum.
But in this thread, and as an argument about anything posted so far in this thread, it's flat out weird and obsessive.
Majority of our athletes are "student athletes". I meet with them fairly often. Was just at Rutgers earlier this month conducting interviews. We have a lot of very impressive student athletes based on not only what they are accomplishing on the field (or in the arena) but what they are accomplishing academically. Are there athletes who don't care about their academics? Of course there are. But lets not broad brush every student athlete with a negative connotation.
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Agree, but it was all on the Ole Miss player for grabbing and hacking after the LSU player effectively stole the ball from her. The second LSU player was, I guess in her mind, protecting her teammate. But she was over the line. My take, though, is that the Ole Miss player was in her "victim" mode by that point. I'm not sure either player is a dirty player, but if I was told to pick one, I'd pick the Ole Miss player.
Yeah, and it is likely they were going at it the entire game. Emotions can build during the course of a game with dirty play. The best thing #9 from LSU could have done is fallen to the ground to enhance the foul on the Ole Miss #9. Not condoning what LSU #9 did, but sometimes a player just loses their mind after getting hacked for an entire game.
Well, I can say that my son has made a lot more $$$ in his business life than in the NFL. The "student" part of the Rutgers Athletic experience had a lot to do with that.
I actually hate when someone, like who you are responding too, paints all college players into that group of about 20% of "student/Athletes" that are only here as the minor leagues. The reality is- the vast majority know they are not going to the next level and are grateful and taking advantage of the college education afforded them. And here at Rutgers- Scott Walker and his team are AMAZING!
Well then , we need less student and more athlete to win in the BIG . This is pro sports
Agreed. Not sure why anybody would have a problem with a term like "student-athlete".
Disagree. Between two athletes of equal physical ability, one with a high IQ and a great academic work ethic, one with a lower IQ who is intellectually lazy and doesn't understand the life-long value inherent to a college education, I would try to draft/recruit the former every day and twice on Sunday, over the latter.
Because a big part of being a great athlete is what's between that athlete's ears as well as a personal habit of excellence in all that they do (all including education).
It’s a bogus term . The ncaa made it up so they wouldn’t have to pay workers comp
"Student-Athlete" Is An NCAA-Created Legal Dodge
The term "Student-Athlete" was created by the NCAA to get out of paying worker's compensation benefits to injured players.
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It’s as real a term as any other.It’s a bogus term . The ncaa made it up so they wouldn’t have to pay workers comp
"Student-Athlete" Is An NCAA-Created Legal Dodge
The term "Student-Athlete" was created by the NCAA to get out of paying worker's compensation benefits to injured players.
Plum- the problem is, buying into false media. Let's take college football- 85 kids on Scholarship.
Out of this number at any given time- At most, 5-10 know they have a shot at the NFL. Maybe, 1-5 know it is a sure thing.
the 10-20 that may show up for pro-day, maybe 3-4 get into camp.
You really think ALL the others are there just to play ball?
And out of the top 15 per team, do you really feel all of those kids are also just not being students.
At MOST schools- I would put +80% as student athletes.
True, but given what I saw on the video, it's the Ole Miss player who got physical first. She was plenty big too. Again, we haven't seen much, but if forced to pick, I'd select the Ole Miss player as more of the Bill Lambeer type who gets physical and at some point walks away with a "what me? attitude. The LSU player seems less that type. She only responded and then left the incident upset and crying.
And even for the players who get drafted he’d get a career ending injury their first season. Even with insurance and some guaranteed pay in their contracts, they‘re gonna need to do something else for the rest of their lives.
Players whose families don’t force them to work hard on academics, at least while still in school, are gambling a lot.
Were we talking about the 10 Commandments given to Moses ? “ Thou Shalt Not Have Strange Gods Before Me”. What is funny here now we’re questioning on Loyalty to the program. Whether we like Schiano? Whether our 3* recruits are any good? If Wimsatt is deemed healthy then play him. We are not going bowling this post season and that is the reality. With no offense the D no matter how potentially good can not be expected to hold teams to less than a few scores. Still it is only year 3 and really only year two but that is for another day. Until we find a stud QB the situation will not change. The D gives us hope for next year. The offense needs a QB from portal , 3 stud WR’ers… 3 stud TE’s … a DT or 2 and another DB or 2 . Our O line still needs someone to push these others . Ireland Brown and Pierce will start again if here next year . After that it is a guess as to who wants the job.
Back on topic.......
Can I victim blame for a moment?
Why was the UM player exiting the field in the middle of the entire MSU team?
As pointed out, we have one tunnel.
Teams are literally kept separated until each has entered the tunnel.
Can I victim blame for a moment?
Why was the UM player exiting the field in the middle of the entire MSU team?
As pointed out, we have one tunnel.
Teams are literally kept separated until each has entered the tunnel.
I think the offense is okay, QB-wise, although it obviously wouldn't hurt to find a QB that comes out of HS knowing how to read college Ds, throws with perfect accuracy and NFL velocity, can run like an NFL RB, and is immune to all form of injury. Alas, those guys get found and recruited by the OSUs and 'Bama's. Another scholarship QB is needed, though, given the rate of injuries we seem to be experiencing.
Yes, we need more and better WRs, more and better TEs, and more and better RBs, and, most importantly, more and better OL. On D, we need LBs more than anything else, and more depth of talent at DL. Can never hurt to have more DBs, but I think we're actually okay there - it'd be a lower priority for me than LB or DL.
Also his mannerisms, the UM player, just outside the tunnel, certainly appeared like taunting. If so, he should get suspended, too. When people do that sort of thing, I am not opposed to them getting smacked around a little bit.
People are generally opposed to violence, as am I for the most part. But I think a little mild violence is sometimes useful as an evolved replacement for Darwinism, which humanity is working so hard to undermine. If that UM kid was, in fact, taunting the MSU players, then unless he's a complete moron, he'll likely have learned not to do something like that again.
Quite a simple solution … before the game starts teams are notified that after the final whistle Michigan players and coaches after ( shaking hands) exit stage right… Rutgers will be singing the alma mater in their end zone as is customary. There is no reason to meet inside the tunnel… Rutgers walks up a steep stairway which never conflicts with the visiting team. Unless that changes on Saturday don’t believe we will see anything like what transpired at Michigan. Here’s what is odd… MSU MBB 2022 and team involved in scrum… MSU MFB team involved in beat down . They can claim all the things the school and program stands for but saying and doing are two completely different things.
Do we do that postgame ? I have been to many ru games that the winning team kinda hangs around on the field, or alma matter etc. Nebraska players were running around like they just won the rose bowl.
i don’t think it’s as strict as the halftime exit
To be fair here. We feel the Rutgers team has a future QB but until proven on the field we still don’t have a reliable answer . The LBer entire group is back next season as well as Anthony Johnson and Toure. That is not a weakness. Except for Mr. Majieh the entire DL can return. We have the Peterson kid and I’m sure Schiano is already to bring in another DT. Ahonatu the Minnesota transfer also has another year option if he so chooses.
In this case taunting and striking, kicking, punching and physically wilding is not acceptable. That has become an acceptable form of defending oneself against someone calling them a name they perceive as attacking. That reasoning is why we live in a world of mistrust, hate and we use it as a viable excuse to inflict physical pain. MSU had 60 minutes to beat the crap out of Michigan players on the field and they failed as many have before them. This is what happens when players are looked upon as being “special” able to do as they please. I know we won’t see that on Saturday at Rutgers.
I seem to remember hearing that Peppers and other Mich players were quite chirpy to our guys after the 70-0 game. And I do not believe there was anything like this.
Also- for the first part- yes, the Mich kid was out of line with what he did but the MSU reaction was criminal. It looked like even more continued after and deeper into the facility, as filmed by a recruit parent. - So, no, blaming the victum doesn't work here.
IF, the MSU players shoved the kid, hip checked him or something like that, then, no one would be talking about it. And we would all pretty much agree it would have been a non issue and just a result of high adrenaline after a game and players just reacting. But, that is not what ended up happening.
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