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Freeman was BAD

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He was bad on offense and that kid from the basketball powerhouse country of Ireland destroyed him on offense. Freeman with crazy shots, poor rebounding, poor foul shooting, and dribbling on the fast break not giving the ball to the guards. Just horrible. He should sit at the start of next game.
 
He was bad on offense and that kid from the basketball powerhouse country of Ireland destroyed him on offense. Freeman with crazy shots, poor rebounding, poor foul shooting, and dribbling on the fast break not giving the ball to the guards. Just horrible. He should sit at the start of next game.

He’s out of control. Disappointed that Pike hasn’t been able to coach him up.
 
Has a very different attitude/approach this year. His head is messing up his game.
 
Could not agree more. His defense on screens is atrocious, he loses his man, would rather allow man to score than pick up foul and lose minutes, soft and selfish offensively, low IQ. I’d have pulled him last game and tonight, anti.-warrior.
 
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He’s out of control. Disappointed that Pike hasn’t been able to coach him up.

So much truth to this. Freeman busts his ass and rebounds the crap out of the ball but gives so many of them back with stupid shots that you sometimes wonder if he’s a net positive. Pikiell needs to harness the “good” and reign him in. It’s like he’s taking more and more liberties as his senior season progresses. I realize we don’t have shooters but he can’t keep pretending to be one.
 
I think the kid developed an inflated ego after SHU.....seems to have a selfish mindset...one fast break early in the game...2 on 1, instead of passing to his teammate for easy layup, he makes some ridiculous move to dunk it himself and gets called for the foul, not to mention some of his horrible shot selections
 
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So much truth to this. Freeman busts his ass and rebounds the crap out of the ball but gives so many of them back with stupid shots that you sometimes wonder if he’s a net positive. Pikiell needs to harness the “good” and reign him in. It’s like he’s taking more and more liberties as his senior season progresses. I realize we don’t have shooters but he can’t keep pretending to be one.
I’m not even gonna give him that. Is not a warrior, does not bust his ass.
 
I think the kid developed an inflated ego after SHU.....seems to have a selfish mindset...one fast break early in the game...2 on 1, instead of passing to his teammate for easy layup, he makes some ridiculous move to dunk it himself and gets called for the foul, not to mention some of his horrible shot selections

That was atrocious.

There was also a play in the 2nd half where I think we were down by 2 and he made a bone headed decision to drive through the zone from the 3 point line.

Not to mention the missed layup/dunk he had with less than 2 mins to go.

He plays his heart out but unfortunately he's out of control many times. Staff needs to find a way to contain it.
 
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He was bad on offense and that kid from the basketball powerhouse country of Ireland destroyed him on offense. Freeman with crazy shots, poor rebounding, poor foul shooting, and dribbling on the fast break not giving the ball to the guards. Just horrible. He should sit at the start of next game.

Who replaces him?

He should never shoot a 3 pt shot. I agree there.
 
It’s never one player’s fault, but Freeman has been bad for most of the year. His point totals are misleading as they come with far too many missed bunnies. As I noted previously, Freeman has shot a dismal under 30% from the field in games against major conference opponents. Now, his I’ll advised shots and bad shooting percentage have spilled over into games against inferior competition. It is very hard to generate offense when your PF shoots 30%,when good PF’s are shooting 60+%! The last 2 games his defense has also been very poor.
 
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Hes been awful all year. Hes been doing the same shit his whole career here. Weird that some people agree with what ive been saying now

I thought you were too harsh on him after SHU, but after 2 games with lazy D and horrible shot selection/decision making I have to agree that he hurts us. Unfortunately, we have nobody else. Sad part is if he just reigned it in and focused on doing the little things he could be pretty effective.
 
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I thought you were too harsh on him after SHU, but after 2 games with lazy D and horrible shot selection/decision making I have to agree that he hurts us. Unfortunately, we have nobody else. Sad part is if he just reigned it in and focused on doing the little things he could be pretty effective.
Yup, if hed accept being a role player and doing what he does best, wed be so much better off. Hes not a post player, hes not a shooter, hes a 6'6 athlete who is tough. If hed be willing to take a role of a guy who just crashes the board, goes for garbage points on LAY-UPS not dunks that always get blocked and played hard defense wed be a much better team. But hes yet to change his ways and i have to imagine pike has talked to him about this
 
Hey if you have someone to replace him by all means...name him
by all means bench Freeman(but we wont win another game all year)

I agree he had a really bad game..4-13 7 REBs 4 steals and 1 block
he was blocked 9 times....thats horrible
and played some poor D
no argument there

But keep in mind ...Baker was 1-6 & didnt play great D either
In fact
Baker
Doucour
Mensa
Omorruyi
Sa
Doorson
were a combined 3-28

Sounds pretty poor all the way around
 
He’s a black hole on offense, he takes stupid three pointers and he can’t defend a god damn play down low to save his life. He’s a hustle rebounder and that’s about it
 
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Fans are identifying Freeman because he is a integral part of Rutgers team performance for better or worse. Sadly,Rutgers has no better options on the bench to limit Freeman minutes.The performance of Eugene has hardly been stellar with the missed foul shots and the failure to make shots around the basket.The rest of the front court players need lots of player development.
 
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You guys jump all over Freeman, like you jumped over Corey, like you jumped over CJ, like you jumped over Bishop Daniels...All those guys hustled and played hard and are ripped.

Yet Mike Williams goes 1 for 11, 3 for 14, 0 for 10, foul trouble, and bad turnovers every game for four years now(he rebounds his own misses)and can do no wrong and is a semi god on this board.

Double standards and hypocrisy on this board is really weird.
 
Shaq Carter is a Freeman that is 3 inches taller but can actually shoot with better shot selection. I'm not worried.
 
Shaq Carter is a fictional character right now. Let's revisit this November 2018.

I doubt heavily that Carter will have the skill or athleticism Freeman has. doesn't mean he can't be more effective.
 
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You guys jump all over Freeman, like you jumped over Corey, like you jumped over CJ, like you jumped over Bishop Daniels...All those guys hustled and played hard and are ripped.

Yet Mike Williams goes 1 for 11, 3 for 14, 0 for 10, foul trouble, and bad turnovers every game for four years now(he rebounds his own misses)and can do no wrong and is a semi god on this board.

Double standards and hypocrisy on this board is really weird.


its obvious you're a hater...
 
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I thought you were too harsh on him after SHU, but after 2 games with lazy D and horrible shot selection/decision making I have to agree that he hurts us. Unfortunately, we have nobody else. Sad part is if he just reigned it in and focused on doing the little things he could be pretty effective.

he was at the back end of last season. he was even making 3's. playing under control and within the game. I was very hopeful for a BIG season and contribution to the TEAM game.
Then I saw him fake that eye foul early season (FSU game?) and the antics with the refs and knew it was gone.
My wife's favorite player but even she is disappointing in his play this year. (and she's far from a bball junkie).

still plenty of time to turn it back around. but that is on Pike.
 
You guys jump all over Freeman, like you jumped over Corey, like you jumped over CJ, like you jumped over Bishop Daniels...All those guys hustled and played hard and are ripped.

Yet Mike Williams goes 1 for 11, 3 for 14, 0 for 10, foul trouble, and bad turnovers every game for four years now(he rebounds his own misses)and can do no wrong and is a semi god on this board.

Double standards and hypocrisy on this board is really weird.

I was critical of Williams in another thread. He’s been terrible this year
 
Different players. Carter is more a 4/5 where Freeman is more a 3/4.

What i love about this video is that he understands how to head fake, get his guy in the air and then go for an easy LAYUP. Not pump fake, outta control spin move, cock ball behind head and get stuffed. He also has some underneath for a raw player. Very excited for shaq. We'll be good next year, not tourney yet probably NIT. I think tourney expectations for 19-20 isnt unreasonable though
 
He’s out of control. Disappointed that Pike hasn’t been able to coach him up.
I believe he’s playing “at his level”, which includes erratic play/games. I’ve always liked him, saw him as more of an athlete with a very good attitude who plays basketball, rather than a basketball player who is athletic
 
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Hey if you have someone to replace him by all means...name him
by all means bench Freeman(but we wont win another game all year)

I agree he had a really bad game..4-13 7 REBs 4 steals and 1 block
he was blocked 9 times....thats horrible
and played some poor D
no argument there

But keep in mind ...Baker was 1-6 & didnt play great D either
In fact
Baker
Doucour
Mensa
Omorruyi
Sa
Doorson
were a combined 3-28

Sounds pretty poor all the way around
Freeman's a tough kid and not a great player, but we don't have much to play ahead of him so he's going to get a lot of minutes. A bigger concern to me is Baker only taking six shots. That can't happen, at least if we expect to win.
 
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I'm not going to tell you Freeman had a great game, but the criticism here is ridiculous and harsh. I sit behind the RU bench in 216 now and I saw him during timeouts trying to loosen up his back on several occasions. I think he is trying to fight through a chronic back problem that goes back to the FSU game. When he got stuffed on a couple of bunnies, I think he had no lift. We're all pissed about the two losses, but give him a break.
 
I'm not going to tell you Freeman had a great game, but the criticism here is ridiculous and harsh. I sit behind the RU bench in 216 now and I saw him during timeouts trying to loosen up his back on several occasions. I think he is trying to fight through a chronic back problem that goes back to the FSU game. When he got stuffed on a couple of bunnies, I think he had no lift. We're all pissed about the two losses, but give him a break.
I agree. People that criticise Freeman have NO credibility with me.

Despite Doucore, Doorson, Sa, Omoruyi looking "long"....
He is our best rebounder.
 
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Yes Freeman takes poor shots , can't finish around the basket and his FT percentage is up and down. My beef with Freeman is that he doesn't let the offense come to him. Too often when his points are down he'll force shots when he should be passing off.
 
Freeman is the key to Rutgers turning this around and getting 5 or 6 B1G games. Unfortunately things seem to be spiraling out of control and quite frankly Pikiell can't or doesn't want to control him.

His FG% in 5 top 100 games 19-71 26.8%
His half court defense has been nothing short of attrocious
He never passes out of the low post in the rare times he is there
Never has a kind thing to say during a game to Duoocure
Nothing is ever his fault

I think Pikiell is afraid of losing Freeman, but at some point he has to put his foot down. This guy is killing us.
 
Player by player this is a deeply flawed team which lacks the skills to be successful in the B1G.Picking on Freeman serves no useful purpose when there is no adequate replacement on the bench that can score.Bottom line Rutgers has now played three B1G games and has failed to even score 60 points in one of the games.There is no place to hide in a power conference when a team lacks talent.As fans have seen coaching can take a program only so far in a rebuild mode.Recruiting is the only way out of successive losing seasons and for Rutgers there is no certainty in future years because league rivals are more talented right now and they won't sit still allowing Rutgers to catch up.
 
I hear what you are saying. Freeman can't or shouldn't be replaced. He needs to be reprogrammed.

Pikiell has mostly been successful reprogramming Sanders (I am not sure I agree with what he is asked to do offensively). Sanders brings it on most possessions defensively and for the most part is patient offensively. Sanders is a completely different player now than when he was under Jordan. I get the feeling Pikiell doesn't have any control over Freeman.

This team can NOT win without Freeman. He can be RUs best basketball player on the floor. At times he has been our best player. If the season gets salvaged it starts with Freeman.
 
At the end of the day, we only have a few guys who can even get their shot off.
 
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