I agree culture is important but you don't lay any blame on Mag at all? That's crazy. At the very least it's a 50/50 proposition where the effort is split.
GG is afraid of competition
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Can’t really expect players to care about the school and program if we don’t care about the players…no?
Yup, didn't we also get one of the top recruiting classes -- the bullshyt never stops.
Dude is a 5 ppg 2 rpg forward and the sky is falling cause he was afraid he’d be buried on the bench.
Net positive.
It will be interesting to see what caliber of program picks him up. I think that will be pretty telling.
Hard to develop players in just 6 months. That aspect of coaching looks like it's a dinasour.
I give the kid a pass as a freshman and think he'll become decent, but the tuck tail and run is weak.
My comparison with Gavin was Grady Dick. Grady went to Kansas the year prior to Gavin! They are extremely similar size , weight, and style of play. Both of their recruiting numbers coming out of HS were extremely similar with Gavin’s higher in some areas. Grady had a nice freshman year nothing spectacular but got better every game.
Grady had a good freshman year and was a lottery pick and having a very very good rookie year in the NBA.
Gavin questioning his development makes complete sense if he looks around the NCAA landscape.
Lol we’re comparing Gavin to Gradey Dick now?
And Dylan has a few million reasons why his decision and confidence in Pike is more important.
Sucks about Gavin, but if he didn’t want to compete, that’s a serious red flag.
Look at them coming out of HS one year apart. One was developed at Kansas the other was not . Prior to college what was significantly different between them?
"Devastating blow"? He could barely get on the court this past season. He was a none factor in a lost season. Does he have talent and promise? Yes. Did he show it to Coach this past season?
It’s a big part of the coach’s job to tap that talent. After all, that’s probably a big part of why he came here. He wasn’t good but I don’t think pike did him any favors.
Overbearing fathers need to stay out of their “little johhnys” sports lives .
Both 6 ft 7
Grady 195
Gavin 185
Both 8 ranked SF *gavin better shooter
Grady 22 nationally
Gavin 44 nationally
Not a huge difference except one picked a better player development coach.
Gradey Dick was a five star recruit, McDonalds High School All American and Gatorade National High School Player of the Year who averaged 14 points a game and shot 40% from three in his one year of college and then got drafted as a lottery pick after one year of college.
But yea other than that, what’s the difference I guess?
Both 6 ft 7
Grady 195
Gavin 185
Both 8 ranked SF *gavin better shooter
Grady 22 nationally
Gavin 44 nationally
Not a huge difference except one picked a better player development coach.
***Out of high school is what I said! I appreciate you showing how much he developed as a freshman at Kansas and the looks he was able to get in a functional offense. Or just how badly Gavin regressed from HS to college. Couldn’t make my argument better myself.
Literally the only similarity you have provided is that they’re both skinny 6’7” white guys.
You’ve completely made up this idea that Gradey Dick consistently got better throughout the year at Kansas. He was already an elite player when he got there. He scored 23 points and led the team in scoring their first game of the season. You’re just making shit up to fit this incredibly dumb narrative you created.
Or both ranked 8 sf
or ranked 22 and 44 nationally
Or I can give you there 247 recruiting numbers which are identical.
One went to a functional school and turned into a lottery pick the other went to Pike and looked like a walk on.
You obviously didn’t watch him play ! He scored 23 points on a non conference game against
You obviously didn’t watch him play ! He scored 23 points against Omaha a week non conference game. Gavin had 25 against Boston his second game. When Grady got into conference play he struggled and then found his footing 10 games or so into conference play.
And the 14 he scored against Duke a week later? Or the 25 he scored against NC State a week after that?
Once again using his college coach development of him in a system to prove my argument. The original post was comparing them coming out of high school something you want to avoid. They were damn close HS evaluations. One kid became a lottery pick the other a regressed unplayable walk on look alike
Guys don’t “develop” into lottery picks in one year of college basketball.
I already gave you all of the accolades Gradey Dick had coming out of high school. You’re the one pretending a 21st ranked 5 star recruit and a 44th ranked 4 star recruit are basically the same thing and pointing at how they both have a similar height and weight.
Gradey Dick was elite coming out of high school. Gavin was not.
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Yes we get it. You don't like Pike. It's obvious. Bottom line is Gavin struggled big time in all phases. Shooting, rebounding, defense, and foul shooting. To his defense so did the rest of the team. Geo, RHJ, and Caleb developed under Pike. The portal has made it too easy and a scapegoat. Gavin deserves criticism for his faults as well. On that note I wish he stayed to develop, also wish him well.
I would break down and list their similarities like this
Dick / White
Griffiths / White
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Yeah it’s weird Rutgers has so many players transferring. I wonder if transfers are up overall or something… nah, probably not
I wish he stayed also but he didn’t develop here in only a one year sampling. He looked a little better at t he end of the season, but he was way over-rated and either fooled Pike as he did the evaluators or Pike knew what he was getting and did nothing with it. I don’t blame him for leaving.
Ace and Bailey aren’t coming here to develop primarily. They’re coming here to showcase their skills and potential. Griffiths might not want to be part of that…which could either be phenomenal…or an absolute circus.
TBH I tried not to say anything negative about Griffiths because of his potential and the idea of him being the best Rutgers basketball recruit ever up until this year. But man, he was not what I expected, his shot looks good and he's 6'8"...towards the end of the year he showed an increased effort and athleticism on defense. Everything else needs drastic improvement..
You’re making Dick jokes, right? This can’t be serious, other than one having a last name of Dick and one being a male who has a dick, I see no common similarities shared by these two.
Did you watch Grady Dick play basketball last year? Be honest, after watching Gavin play this past year would you say they entered college with equal levels of talent?
