It’s so brutal. I won’t be renewing my membership because of all the ridiculous negativity on this board. It’s unbearable to read
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It’s just not a good look for pike. He’s taking a beating on multiple fronts as he should.
If this was a problem that is unique to Rutgers I'd be concerned. But it's happening all over college basketball. It's a college basketball problem, not a Pike problem
This is all social media I'm beginning to think. I thought it was because the elections coming up so people complain and act like the sky is falling over everything. Rutgers basketball board was my one escape as the football board has been infiltrated by them already. Lol losing this space as well. I blame troll culture...some people get their rocks off by pissing people off online..
Sorry. Geo did not get better. His 5th year wasn't much better (and worse in some areas) than his frosh year. Please folks..just look at the facts. (there are better examples...).
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went thru this thread and didn't see any additional details of what you are describing. So if you have some of those to share I for one would love to hear the comments and additional insights. (not saying I don't believe you. )
I don’t agree. He flatlined from 19-20 through his final year but he improved from his freshman year.Sorry. Geo did not get better. His 5th year wasn't much better (and worse in some areas) than his frosh year. Please folks..just look at the facts. (there are better examples...).
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If we go by freshman years he didn't look like a deer in headlights compared to Gavin. He actually played well. But if we're comparing, Geo was a low 3 star compared to Gavin being a high 4 star. Expectations were higher. But we know star rankings mean very little if you don't pan out.Sorry. Geo did not get better. His 5th year wasn't much better (and worse in some areas) than his frosh year. Please folks..just look at the facts. (there are better examples...).
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This is the tweet that LGriff13 supposedly liked.
One of the other young guys told me he liked it but I can’t see who liked it
Read all of Kn0wledge s post from last week until now.
That guy is a Griffiths likely his dad.
Tell me if you think he sounds happy with the offense. He might delete them soon because the old handle deleted most of the hoops posts.
And Pike can’t wait on decisions. He did last year and got burned. Let’s judge him when roster is set at the earliest.
I did in fact want him to be good but he turned out to be not good so 🤷🏻♂️
Flood lived off Schiano’s left overs until they were gone. Pike built us from a flaming pile of dog crap. Not even close. You’d think we went winless in the big ten this year the way people are reacting. Yes it’s concerning the number of transfers we need, but maybe wait and see who he lands.
Yeah you’re right, a bad freshman year and we should send every kid to the portal.
Kid is going to develop at his next stop and make a lot of people here look horrible.
Nobody sent him to the portal. Kid might eventually develop into a decent player, I guess. He’s not going to be any great loss.
Then what are you saying. The players loved flood. didn't hold anyone accountable.
So you think Rutgers won't get anyone else good? Or the guys at Rutgers won't develop? As far as downplaying it...it would have been nice to have him coming off the bench next year but unless he improved drastically he wasn't going to be a main contributor on a good team. Hopefully he does develop but could not guarantee him minutes next year. Would rather have a guy like alloco from Princeton..Gavin will be fine and Rutgers will be fine...it's 2024 so no having a recruit like Gavin transfer isn't the same as it was in 1999....at least the coaches are getting definitive answers on staying or going with enough time to properly find replacements and build a roster. This is the fun part..
I’m saying I think he’s going to develop into a very good player regardless.
Would he developed more here vs another coach/program? Who knows. Impossible to say that.
The main point is this kid is absolutely a shooter, and those numbers are going to improve the more the game slows down for him. You could tell he was improving and looked more comfortable towards the end of this season.
Do you think having a solid 3rd year shooter on our team would have helped the team this year?
Because fast forward 2 years from now and that’s the player we just lost to the portal.
Broski had an effective field percentage under 40% which was among the worst on a team that was a ridiculously bad shooting team. I would love to have a solid shooter but Griffiths was at absolute best a guy who MAYBE, POSSIBLY could be one at some indeterminate time in the future.
Yeah we just disagree completely on his potential.
We’ll see how his career shakes out. Kid is going to end up with a staff that knows how to run an effective offense and his numbers are going to significantly improve.
I’m making a general statement here, as I don’t post all the time, but for f$@@ks sake, how about all the people that post here that constantly bitch about everything; I sure hope you are donating towards the NIL; if not, please shut up; it’s tiresome. Please put your money where your mouth is. I’m frustrated as hell with the whole situation going on right now, but we have to deal with it. Let’s see what happens in the next month or so; if we have very little committed from the portal, then we can all agree we are in trouble. Until then, let’s just let this thing play out.
I posted this on another GG thread:
Gavin was obviously overhyped out of high school, fine, he had a very disappointing freshman season. This was a surprise for everyone including Gavin and his family. He has a much higher mountain to climb than he thought. He needs regular playing time to hopefully get better and that was not guaranteed to happen at Rutgers based on his first year so he changed his mind about never entering the transfer portal. Some team will give him that guaranteed starting spot so he is doing what is best for him, not Rutgers. Good luck Gavin, you seem like a nice kid.
Gavin was obviously overhyped out of high school, fine, he had a very disappointing freshman season. This was a surprise for everyone including Gavin and his family. He has a much higher mountain to climb than he thought. He needs regular playing time to hopefully get better and that was not guaranteed to happen at Rutgers based on his first year so he changed his mind about never entering the transfer portal. Some team will give him that guaranteed starting spot so he is doing what is best for him, not Rutgers. Good luck Gavin, you seem like a nice kid.
Yes - exactly this. I don’t understand how the folks equating this with a take that Gavin will never be any good. It’s not that - it’s that based on last year, Rutgers doesn’t have the luxury of assuming he goes from one the least efficient offensive players to above average offensive player worthy of starter minutes. We have to approach the portal assuming we can’t rely on Gavin. This shouldn’t be hard for anyone to understand.
On the flip side - the takes that Gavin’s chasing a bag of money somewhere else or is being battled for right now by a stack of top tier schools seems ridiculous to me too but I guess we’ll see. Maybe I’m wrong. There are so many good players coming off great years - and incoming frosh prospects with recruiting profiles just like Gavin’s last year. Why would the addition of Gavin’s frosh season at RU propel him over any of these alternatives in a money chase? It doesn’t make sense to me at all.
Hey. If you're comparing Geo to Gavin that is a whole nuther story. You won't get a debate from me on that.
Probably. That guy was in love with Gavin and then vanished after every prediction he made was incorrect.
that's just the wrong way to see this. Pike was recruiting at a low level until recently. We know that. The reason is because we are Rutgers. We didn't have the bag men - and later the NIL - reputation, or other elements that enable a coach to recruit top players. This is well known. And then more recently we specifically didn't have the NIL. The Star Ledger guys both said that losing Paul and Cam was because we were behind on NIL.
So yes, recruiting has been a problem prior to this year, and Pike has exceeded reasonable expectations over that time. And now he has upgraded recruiting.
This past year we hit a significant problem mostly due to team Rutgers not adjusting to the post NIL/Portal world. We know this. He seems to be on it now.
As to the "sugar rush" that's a pretty unfair characterization. We have a 5 person class coming in. And lot's of portal guys.
So what is this deeper problem that you are alluding to?
Yes. Keep dumping your hard earned money into the pockets of 18 year olds so they can get a free education and then leave after they face a little adversity.
You have to be filthy rich or insane to continue donating to NIL.
It’s no different than any other professional sport. And yes, this is professional sports. It always has been. Contracts are coming soon. That will prevent a large portion of the movement.
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