Making something into a political thread again. What a surprise.
Girl Singing Anthem Has WRONG HAND Over her "Heart"
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It’s not like a basketball game that you paid to attend is a governmental activity or a football game or a car race either. It’s marketing fellas. They know their audience. Movies? Different audience, no anthem. Broadway play, same thing. It wouldn’t take much musing about it, if you were so inclined, to get angry about exploitation of the national anthem. But I digress . . .
Federal law states that one should have one's hand over one's heart during the rendition of the national anthem. But i am not sure this applies to the singer. In this video of Linda Ronstadt singing the National Anthem before a Dodgers' World Series game, the listeners have their hands over their heart, but she doesn't. Ditto in this performance by Renee Fleming before the 2012 Super Bowl.
Rarely does a singer do so. I’m sure it happens, but I can’t think of one now. By the way, the federal law lays out a custom, not an enforceable requirement.
But hey, the real issue is that the basketball team has little depth.
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It's not a federal law. It's non binding guidance.
Yes, getting this worked up about some girl putting the wrong hand on her chest is pretty unhinged.
Enough to be called out as a “message board genius”….. NOT a thing to brag about btw
It is a federal law, codified as section 171 of title 36 of the U.S. Code. But it is phrased as "should" not "shall." So one can't be punished for disobeying. That's why I wrote "should" in my post. It is Congress's view on proper conduct. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-1994-title36/html/USCODE-1994-title36-chap10.htm
Your post was indeed perfectly accurate. I just added more information, in particular that it is part of the US Code on Patriotic Customs, not requirements. If it were to try to create a requirement--as I'm sure you also know and would also get right--it would be challenged and overturned at whiplash speed by the most judicially conservative or the most judicially liberal court, one of the many great things about our country.
I didn't see this young lady sing the national anthem because, you know, Peacock. But I expect that she'll get the hand and placement right next time. I don't recall many if any singers at these type of promotional anthems before a sporting event even making the attempt.
Now back to basketball . . .
She's lucky she didn't try that crap in North Korea. ⛏️
Putting a thread on a message board is “worked up?” You better never sit next to me at a basketball or football game lol!!! This thing didn’t even move my blood pressure in the slightest, trust me, I just found it incredibly disrespectful. Pretty simple.
(1) Finding that "incredibly disrespectful" is unhinged.
(2) If the below doesn't represent you being worked up then you don't express yourself very well in writing.
That’s not me getting “unhinged” in the least bit. I assume it’s just a case of us having very different parameters of the term.
All good.
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Patriotic Real Americans everywhere.
Your first paragraph is certainly correct. The Supreme Court held in the 1940s that no one can be punished for refusal to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. This case would be similar.
The guidance (it's OK with me to call it that) seems to apply to the audience, not the singer. I did not try to watch all of the videos on Youtube of performances of the National Anthem, but I haven't seen one either there or on live TV in which the singer is holding his/her hand over his/her heart. But I agree that if the singer is indeed holding a hand over her heart, it should be the correct hand. On the other hand (excuse the bad pun), I do not view her error as important enough to warrant the OP's wrath.
Yes, back to basketball!
Holy cow. I mean, your reaction here has everything to do with you, no?
I can’t believe I am actually replying to this thread but here it goes, perhaps her intention was not her hand on her heart, maybe she usually sings with the microphone in her right hand and she put her left hand in her chest just as a habit. I have seen plenty of singers sing this way. Irregardless, this could be one of the more ridiculous posts on here and that is saying a lot.
I agree w/you that people should do their best to be respectful of traditions. Actually, I think people should try to be respectful of the traditions of wherever they happen to be, even when they aren't in their own country or their own home or whatever. When in Rome and all. Being respectful is not often a bad thing to do. I try to be respectful in most things.
But... I dislike it when people try to equate national symbols (the flag, the national anthem, etc.) with patriotism. The absolute best thing about our country is the freedom that we all have. It's the very freedom to be disrespectful to our national symbols that makes this nation great. If someone's intention is to seek to improve something, to perhaps right a perceived wrong, about our nation and the way they go about it is to be disrespectful to a national symbol, then that's not being unpatriotic at all. That's a person fighting to make our nation better (even when it may be wrong-minded).
IMO, the symbolism of an American working hard to seek a more perfect union is far more patriotic than any flag, or any song, will ever be. Because it highlights how we stand out in the world by allowing our citizens the right to do that. By showing humility and admitting we can always be even better than we are at any moment in time.
Hm... I thought about this some and I must confess that I sometimes get pretty worked up by a woman putting both her hands on her chest.
Finally, things have gotten back on track.
...and it's MY "freedom" to speak aloud my feelings on said event then, agree? I would think so. Also, this didn't appear to be any kind of "statement" regarding any of our patriotic duties (so-to-speak), but instead, just a simple act of ignorance as to which hand to use and where the heart is located.
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IMO one of your best posts...except for maybe the first paragraph.
Some of you obviously weren't around in the Sixties and early Seventies during the Vietnam war, when many people were so outraged at what our country was doing over there that they felt compelled to show disrespect for the U.S....including much more than just showing respect for the flag. I was proudly one of them. I didn't stand for the anthem for years. I only relented when I started dating a woman who "didn't wanna cause any trouble" and I didn't want to upset her.
I ended up marrying a woman with a similar attitude...so now I stand.
I never said you shouldn’t express your feelings. I merely expressed my feelings on the subject.
Imagine the horror if she was a transvestite too.
Contrarian opinion - thought sports were just another form of entertainment. Do we need to do the star spangled banner at the movie theatre too?
Why would that be a "horror?" Odd comment. 2nd one as such in this thread.
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What the ****? What a strange response.
But a predictable response among certain individuals who are intolerant of viewpoints other than their own. Even though our nation was formed from people who, among other things, wished to escape such intolerance.
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