Group of 5 Alligment Move ?

[MADHAT1]

Now that the Big 12 poached 3 schools out of the AAC , maybe instead of looking for replacing those schools, the AAC and other 4 group of 5 should work together and form conferences based on region schools are in.

This article gives pause for thought .
It seems like something that could cut down cost , make mid-major conferences breed more loyalty from the fans in the areas they are in and be a buffer from raiding each other.
Wouldn't stop the big boys from taking who they want, or have the schools in it dream of P-5 days.
But bring back the days conferences were mainly based on region schools were in and have regional rivalries
seem easier to keep

What's next in college football realignment? A common sense plan to bond Group of 5
https://sports.yahoo.com/alabama-as...n-sense-conference-realignment-202704848.html

 

[RU at the shore]

Too sensible

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Eh - do they really need an overhaul like this? Just get rid of the one division that’s truly a geographical nightmare - the AAC.

Ideally the B12 eventually takes Memphis and SMU. Temple can go back to the MAC where they fit much better geographically. EC, South Florida, Tulane to sun belt.

 

[MADHAT1]

Eh - do they really need an overhaul like this? Just get rid of the one division that’s truly a geographical nightmare - the AAC.

Ideally the B12 eventually takes Memphis and SMU. Temple can go back to the MAC where they fit much better geographically. EC, South Florida, Tulane to sun belt.

I agree Memphis might eventually make the Big 12 lineup and if BYU doean't go B-12 like iot looks like they might do, Memphis might be their replacement for membership in Big 12.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I agree Memphis might eventually make the Big 12 lineup and if BYU doean't go B-12 like iot looks like they might do, Memphis might be their replacement for membership in Big 12.

There’s also conference USA I forgot about. Plenty of landing spots. The AAC really should break up. It stands out as a geographical mess at this point.

 

[cicero grimes]

There’s also conference USA I forgot about. Plenty of landing spots. The AAC really should break up. It stands out as a geographical mess at this point.

The G5 should really look to set up a separate playoff. Let the P5 do their thing and run your own playoff. Even at 12 the best you will do is probably one team per year in the P5 playoff.

 

[Ridge 22]

This article basically said nothing. All it did was geographically realign teams with zero mention of how the money would actually work.

 

[MADHAT1]

This article basically said nothing. All it did was geographically realign teams with zero mention of how the money would actually work.

It's a start of trying to keep the G-5 schools revernt and making the conferences they arew in regional as to possibly get each section of country more interested in the regional programs outside of the P-5 Conferences.
As for the money not mentioned , that's a good question but the TV rights might tend to be compatible to what the G-5 schools are getting now.
Basicly , to me, it's an allance between all the G-5 programs to elimante G-5 conferences from having schools in different parts of the nation and making mid major conference more of a regional conference .
Not many college FB fans on the west coast or down south care about an east coast mid major or conference its in, but they might feel a little more friendly to a mid major conference that has it's members exclusli\vly in region they call home

 

[Ridge 22]

It's a start of trying to keep the G-5 schools revernt and making the conferences they arew in regional as to possibly get each section of country more interested in the regional programs outside of the P-5 Conferences.
As for the money not mentioned , that's a good question but the TV rights might tend to be compatible to what the G-5 schools are getting now.
Basicly , to me, it's an allance between all the G-5 programs to elimante G-5 conferences from having schools in different parts of the nation and making mid major conference more of a regional conference .
Not many college FB fans on the west coast or down south care about an east coast mid major or conference its in, but they might feel a little more friendly to a mid major conference that has it's members exclusli\vly in region they call home

That's all well and good, but ultimately it is about the money and not much else. When someone can present any details on how that will work, please let me know. Until then, this makes no sense to me in terms of being something actually implementable.

 

[bigmatt718]

When Memphis and SMU end up getting poached by the Big 12 around 2023 or so, the Northeast G5s should consider starting a new regional G5 conference (Temple, UMass, UConn, Buffalo, Army, Navy, Liberty, USF, maybe Old Dominion/ECU). It would save on travel, and they could consider adding a few football only schools like JMU/Delaware who have talked about going FBS for a while or adding a few local schools for basketball/Olympic sports as affiliates.

 

[MADHAT1]

That's all well and good, but ultimately it is about the money and not much else. When someone can present any details on how that will work, please let me know. Until then, this makes no sense to me in terms of being something actually implementable.

Hopefully someone will provide financial benefits from making g-5 conferences regional.
My opinion, which hasn't a thread of solid or watered-down information, is that the payout per school might go down for some of the g-5 schools in regional conferences from what they received in an upper tier g-5 conference, but schools that were in the lower tier g-5s might get a small boost.

I think most G-5s , especially the AAC, will be offered less for their TV rights when conferences TV rights contracts come up for renewal
That opinion is just mine without a shred of evidence to back it up

 

[Ridge 22]

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Hopefully someone will provide financial benefits from making g-5 conferences regional.
My opinion, which hasn't a thread of solid or watered-down information, is that the payout per school might go down for some of the g-5 schools in regional conferences from what they received in an upper tier g-5 conference, but schools that were in the lower tier g-5s might get a small boost.

I think most G-5s , especially the AAC, will be offered less for their TV rights when conferences TV rights contracts come up for renewal
That opinion is just mine without a shred of evidence to back it up

It would have to be some kind of shared revenue deal for the media rights across all the schools I imagine. It would also have to be a system of the have's and have nots, where some schools make more than others based on some set of metrics TBD. We saw in the Big 12 how that worked out. Good luck making it work across 40 something schools. It would also likely require some sort of GOR to make it sticky and to up the value with the networks. Again, good luck. Short of that, why would any school in one of the lessor schools in the higher earning G5 conferences agree to potentially make less in this new structure?

 

[MADHAT1]

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It would have to be some kind of shared revenue deal for the media rights across all the schools I imagine. It would also have to be a system of the have's and have nots, where some schools make more than others based on some set of metrics TBD. We saw in the Big 12 how that worked out. Good luck making it work across 40 something schools. It would also likely require some sort of GOR to make it sticky and to up the value with the networks. Again, good luck. Short of that, why would any school in one of the lessor schools in the higher earning G5 conferences agree to potentially make less in this new structure?

Good question on why schools would be willing to take less in conference rec=venue sharing.
Travel expenses might be a factor.
Stability of conference might be something considered a plus.
Right now the AAC is looking to raid another G-5 to re[place the programs the B-12 took from it.
That move might bring on the conference or conferences the AAC raided looking to do a little raiding themselves.
Regional; conferences might only have to worry about the big bad P-5s coming at them and if that happens just adjust according to what happened like a partner instead of every conference for itself.
I don't think the revenue lost will be a big hindrance if the final results of making G-5 conferences regional looks more beneficial all schools involved than being in a conference that is spread all across the nation and in a every conference for itself mode

 

[Ridge 22]

Good question on why schools would be willing to take less in conference rec=venue sharing.
Travel expenses might be a factor.
Stability of conference might be something considered a plus.
Right now the AAC is looking to raid another G-5 to re[place the programs the B-12 took from it.
That move might bring on the conference or conferences the AAC raided looking to do a little raiding themselves.
Regional; conferences might only have to worry about the big bad P-5s coming at them and if that happens just adjust according to what happened like a partner instead of every conference for itself.
I don't think the revenue lost will be a big hindrance if the final results of making G-5 conferences regional looks more beneficial all schools involved than being in a conference that is spread all across the nation and in a every conference for itself mode

The answer is they likely won't be. I don't see this plan being enacted any time soon

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

When Memphis and SMU end up getting poached by the Big 12 around 2023 or so, the Northeast G5s should consider starting a new regional G5 conference (Temple, UMass, UConn, Buffalo, Army, Navy, Liberty, USF, maybe Old Dominion/ECU). It would save on travel, and they could consider adding a few football only schools like JMU/Delaware who have talked about going FBS for a while or adding a few local schools for basketball/Olympic sports as affiliates.

Army and Navy would prefer to play in the Patriot league for other sports - no?

 

[bigmatt718]

Army and Navy would prefer to play in the Patriot league for other sports - no?

Yeah I think they would only join for football only. Army/Navy would stay in the Patriot for basketball/Olympic sports. They can add affiliate members to the proposed Northeastern G5 (Delaware, Stony Brook, etc).

 

[NickRU714]

The only true solution is to cap conference payouts. Stops conference realignment purely for monetary reasons.
Allows schools to group based on region/historical rivalries instead of purely how to make the most money.

How can schools with limited funds be expected to compete with the P5 schools who have access to much higher level of funds?
If NIL needs a salary cap because Rutgers doesn't have the money to compete against Alabama, why shouldn't conference payouts be capped as well because Template doesn't have the money to compete against Rutgers?

Conference payouts cause a much larger competitive imbalance than NIL.

 

[Shelby65]

True Nick, but it's never going to happen. Imbalance equals much more money for the better/bigger conferences and they'll always get bigger payouts from competing media companies.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

The answer is they likely won't be. I don't see this plan being enacted any time soon

Doesn’t it make more sense for the AAC to just implode? If that happens geography issues pretty much correct themselves with the remaining teams aligning with the closest conference to them - MAC (Temple and maybe Navy), CUSA/Sun Belt for the rest.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Big 12 vote is today. Don’t know what exact time, but every article says whatever issue between Houston and the Big 12 has been smoothed over. Next couple weeks should be crazy for the AAC, Conference USA, and Sun Belt.

 

[bigmatt718]

Big 12 vote is today. Don’t know what exact time, but every article says whatever issue between Houston and the Big 12 has been smoothed over. Next couple weeks should be crazy for the AAC, Conference USA, and Sun Belt.

Big 12 formally accepted Cincy, BYU, Houston, and UCF from what I understand.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

Big 12 formally accepted Cincy, BYU, Houston, and UCF from what I understand.

So they big14…I believe they own that name

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Memphis, get your overhead projector ready.

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