Has anyone here donated to an NIL?
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Yes monthly and upped it when I saw all the players coming back this year. I enjoy watching Rutgers sports have season tickets to Football and Basketball, get to a lot of soccer matches so I find it worthwhile.
How much money did it take to buy him? And for cripes sake, at least use examples of 4* players. Do you realize how rare a 5* player is for Rutgers football? Even if we had the cash, the chances would be super slim for many reasons other than $$ to get him.
I think he is talking about a kid who’s parents both went to Penn state and have season tickets.
I think rufamily's Family has contributed(not necessarily financially) way more to RU than you may be aware.
^^^^^ Congrats on making the early list for most stupid post of the year.
If we were donating the way we should be we would have more to show for it right now. We need plug and play OL and there are plenty in the portal that can come here and do well. We are not getting anything that will cost money. Those players are going to schools where the fan base participates and wants to win not just want to talk and talk and talk.
Anyone that doesn’t donate should never complain about us being unable to land transfers etc.,
I don't and I don't. That doesn't mean that if in the future that If I do, I won't, but I generally take things as they are and hope for the better next time, realizing that each situation has a unique set of circumstances that favors a recruit choosing one school over another. Sometimes it is all about the money, sometimes it's a lot about the money, sometimes the money helps, and sometimes it is not about the money.
I do complain about complainers though. It's a weird world right now in college sports. Kudos to the folks who donate to NIL and to athletics. We have given a lot to the latter and to the University generally. Not sure what we will do when our multi-year commitment is done. We may be done with Rutgers and athletics giving for a variety of reasons, but not because of NIL. Just that we gave enough and have other causes that are more worthy and impactful to us. I also do think that what Chip Kelly said/alluded to will eventually come into practice that the schools will handle NIL directly.
I was surprised to see this post because I thought that just about everyone on a Rutgers board would donate and the question seemed rhetorical…. Now, I’m equally surprised to see that a large number of you (us) don’t contribute as a matter of principle! What? You don’t like the system so you don’t donate?
The only thing we can do to help us compete is to donate, donate, and donate. Whether to the university, to RU sports, or to KTR. So, yes I donate monthly a fairly significant amount. I previously donated significantly to the R Fund but NIL is a more pressing issue for our teams right now. Just because we don’t agree with the way this has evolved doesn’t mean we should back off our donations. That is, unless you don’t care if we’re competitive…
The only thing we can do to help us compete is to donate, donate, and donate. Whether to the university, to RU sports, or to KTR. So, yes I donate monthly a fairly significant amount. I previously donated significantly to the R Fund but NIL is a more pressing issue for our teams right now. Just because we don’t agree with the way this has evolved doesn’t mean we should back off our donations. That is, unless you don’t care if we’re competitive…
Isn't the issue that the players receiving funds directly from the Universities would be considered "employees," opening up a pandora's box of issues with respect to benefits, etc.?
It’s definitely one of the big issues. But I don’t think it would open up a Pandora’s box. In fact, it would give the universities leverage to institute many of the rules and controls to bring order to the system, but it would also force the universities to be responsible and take ownership of the situation. Which they don’t want. now they can keep it all at arms length.
The other part of it is how do you deal with non-revenue sports, which is a huge title IX issue. Everyone wants to get paid, and some will scream equal pay for what may not be an equal contribution t the funds flowing in from media rights. It's a tough problem. Universities (and for that matter, large organizations) do not like to tackle tough problems. They like to take simple routes that usually amount to virtue signaling and not addressing the larger problems. This is not a political statement, its a statement of corporate and university governance in the modern world.
I wonder if title IX would even apply once they are employees.
If 10% of RU alumni gave the cash equivalent of half of a pizza every month, our NIL would raise $6,000,000.
(50,000 x $10 x 12).
Instead some diehard fans who post here every day give thoughts, prayers and excuses instead.
(50,000 x $10 x 12).
Instead some diehard fans who post here every day give thoughts, prayers and excuses instead.
So until then ( probably won’t happen for 5 to 10 years if ever) it gives some diehard fans the excuse not to donate now.
That’s actually a good point. WBB would sue to get the same amount as MBB.
Imagine the NJ.com articles about the state subsidized university paying their women’s shooting guard $300,000 a year, using tax dollars partially.
In the simplest form, it comes down to how much you want to win
I have season tickets for football, men’s basketball, wrestling and men’s lacrosse
Going to games and seeing competitive matchups, and more importantly, wins, means a lot to me as I spend a decent amount of time invested Rutgers athletics, both in person and on this message board
We still fund my daughters 529, we contribute to our 401(k) and 401(k), Roth IRAs, have life insurance, church offering, and take vacations
We are not overly wealthy and do not drive designer cars, not there’s anything wrong with that, but our priorities are in other places
We have not had to adjust our lifestyle significantly in order to donate to the NIL collectives, it is simply a matter of priority, and what means the most to each individual person
With that being said, if you do not donate to NIL, and know that, without a robust and NIL, it will be very hard for us to compete, complaining about the performance or lack there of is the textbook definition of hypocrisy in my book
I have season tickets for football, men’s basketball, wrestling and men’s lacrosse
Going to games and seeing competitive matchups, and more importantly, wins, means a lot to me as I spend a decent amount of time invested Rutgers athletics, both in person and on this message board
We still fund my daughters 529, we contribute to our 401(k) and 401(k), Roth IRAs, have life insurance, church offering, and take vacations
We are not overly wealthy and do not drive designer cars, not there’s anything wrong with that, but our priorities are in other places
We have not had to adjust our lifestyle significantly in order to donate to the NIL collectives, it is simply a matter of priority, and what means the most to each individual person
With that being said, if you do not donate to NIL, and know that, without a robust and NIL, it will be very hard for us to compete, complaining about the performance or lack there of is the textbook definition of hypocrisy in my book
If it doesn't apply they'll start dragging the schools in front of the EEOC and other government agencies/boards and most likely unionize which will create an even bigger headache..
I'm not sure that's true. Title IX covers athletics programs offered by the university to it's students. If the football and men's hoops teams become professionalized, I wonder if it would still even be considered a student program offered by the university? Any Title IX lawyers here?
A headache maybe, but also could help level the playing field in terms of NIL. A union would likely require revenue sharing among the athletes so all the money isn't just going to handful of elite players. That would be good for us. Also, the players could unionize as it is without being school employees.
And again, the root of the problem is the universities not stepping up to fix the system. If they engaged and took reasonability, the majority of the colleges would be able to work together to create a more competitive playing environment with things like salary caps like the NFL. The problem is that the colleges are run by academics who don't know and don't care about such things, so they aren't going to lead on the issue.
If the BS Diehards had to pay by the post they would find themselves having a life of some sort. They certainly wouldn’t spend all day and night on these boards and still donate squat. Some of these fake die hards will travel to California in October to watch Rutgers get pounded by a team full of NIL from a fan base that actually gives a Fu?K. If I benifit then fine I will pay if it doesn’t then don’t expect me to pay. That’s the mindset of this fanbase. Donating to Rutgers R Benifits the donor so it’s all about me there too.
STFU already.
I can attest that of 5 younger alumni and current students I know very well that they do not give a flying f about athletics. They think it is stupid and a waste of money. I know two other older alumni who lightly follow football and men's hoops who say that they don't really care if Rutgers wins or loses, and they have never donated to the R Fund, nor will they give any money to NIL.
10% is a pipe dream. Low single digits is the best hope. And you have hard core fans on this board who are still having a difficult time with the whole concept of paying college athletes. I'm not one of them, but for reasons previously stated, we have donated and committed extremely large sums of money to Rutgers academics and to Rutgers athletics. We have other priorities at the moment. So NIL is not a never for us, but not now. However, the more people like you pontificate and denigrate those that do not give, it makes us lean further towards never.
You still haven't learned how to not be toxic AF when discussing NIL. You make people not want to donate.
I can’t make anyone do anything please stop the BS. You either want to win or you don’t. You want to win or you just want to waste your time like many do just discussing things at nausean and do nothing but that.
