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If you contribute to Knights of the Raritan, as I and others on this board do, that has no bearing on our ability to land transfers. The mission of KOR is retention. I personally am much more comfortable with that, than I am with bringing in mercenaries.
Those would definitely not apply. A woman would have to prove that, if it wasn’t for sex discrimination, she would’ve earned a roster spot on her own athletic merit, out competing the other men also going for that same spot.
I think you may have added a key point to the issue. The top 20 schools (blue bloods) don't want to fix the problem...they don't want a more competitive playing environment...they are okay with it the way it is. "So they aren't going to lead on the issue."
Right. And all the other schools, who collectively have the power to come together to force the creation of a new more equitable system, are run by academics who don't know enough about it come together and make something happen.
Knight Shift. Thank You for your R Fund contributions!!!! I absolutely get that you're committed to an annual gift to the R Fund and are not contributing to KTR. I've been there myself and fulfilling your gift to the R Fund is commendable. You are a loyal supporter and any shite being thrown by other posters is not directed at your situation. There are some people who don't give...not because they can't...but because they are (as JayDogSmooth says) hypocrites.
Fair sentiment
Can I complain about the morons who thought this was going to be a good thing for Rutgers Athletics?
Pre NIL we had no shot in football
Pre NIL we had a Top 10 football team once. We were a legit Top 25 team a couple other seasons. We will never scratch the Top 10 in the NIL era.
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It sucks and killed any chance we had at upward mobility. It might kill off our entire athletics program (if it costs us a spot in what ultimately becomes the Professional College Football Conference). Other than that? It's swell.
Oh please stop. Neither NIL nor anything else will kill off the entire athletics program.
Put down the pipe
I thought the craziest take I had seen on this board was when some guy said the best way to improve our football team would be to spend our NIL money on buying the best basketball recruit in the country.
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Never once said that
Its up to the AD to get the ball rolling $ wise with the boosters and collectiveInteresting story on Washington's collective effort to retain star players in The Athletic. It's paywalled, but a few highlights.
Seemed the HC of the football team was the most involved person in the Athletics Department in communicating and facilitating NIL work, not the AD, which makes sense.
The person running their collective was formerly one of their biggest fundraisers for the Athletics Department.
A few quotes spread out in a much longer article:
With the help of Montlake Futures, they could afford to make that decision. Washington’s nonprofit NIL collective agreed to deals with all six players to help ensure they’d return in 2023.
All six players came back in part because they were able to do deals with Montlake Futures that were more lucrative than becoming mid-round draft picks.
Montlake Futures executive director Andrew Minear says the collective’s involvement was “just one piece of the pie” for the six team leaders. Each needed to weigh many factors — not just money — in making important decisions about their future. But the collective, which works with all UW sports, assured all six that if they did return, they’d have an opportunity to earn more money by making an impact in the community.
DeBoer says Washington has come a long way since his arrival in November 2021 in building an NIL program that once lagged far behind its Power 5 peers.
Minear didn’t start with Montlake Futures until October 2022. He moved into the position after six spending years in a senior director fundraising role with the university.
DeBoer said, “to where a lot of the guys that stuck around for another year, it made it to where, yes, the development they were gonna have, the journey they were gonna be on, the experience they were gonna have here this year, those were all big pieces of it, too. But it kinda made it a little bit easier to decide to stay knowing that life is a little bit better. Just a little bit.”
All parties agree that having a head coach who gets it and embraces it makes all the difference, too.
“DeBoer is in constant communication with Montlake Futures,” Tupuola-Fetui said. “He understands the importance of NIL and what it can do for our program.”
It’s not quite as easy to raise NIL funds in Seattle as it is in college towns like Ann Arbor. It’s not just that it’s a pro sports city — it’s also the challenge of engaging interest among those whose charitable giving tends to go to hospitals, research or the arts. But everyone involved realizes they need to capitalize on this momentum with the fan base and extend their resources further.
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Takeaways: It's mostly on the head coach of the football team to be in communication with the head of the collective. Very little was said about the AD. Sure, the AD has a role, but the head coach is closest to the players and recruiting and can communicate with the collective on particular needs.
UW was far behind. Of course, winning helped elevate their NIL. UW, in Seattle, has many of the same challenges Rutgers has with charities competing for NIL funds. They caught up.
UW uses funds like Rutgers has used in the offseason, retaining key players. There was a comment (not worth a whole lot but there) under the story that UW and Michigan have a similar approach in that they do not give NIL money to top recruits. Recruits understand that money will be there if they perform, else they can try to get NIL money in the transfer portal.
Rutgers can do better, but winning will open the wallets of more donors. Alienating and berating donors and potential donors will do more harm than good, but for two accounts (same person), they won't shut up.
A subscription to The Athletic has been worth it. $1/month on special.
Washington’s collective effort to retain its star players for national championship run
Thanks in large part to the efforts of Montlake Futures, several key Huskies opted to return for one more season.
Yeah those unions are a bitch, man, cause they force you to do the right thing...
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Jon has said it, and Schiano echoed it at the TD club meeting last year
No I get that, but my understanding was that they needed 6M to keep everyone that they wanted, not that the 2M/yr that they've been raising has not gone to both keeping kids and to signing kids.
Yes, according to GS, they needed 6 mil just for retention of the current roster (and being that it was in July, I assume he was factoring in kids that had already committed for that cycle and kids they felt good would commmit)
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Here ya go! It's very easy. I give about $10 a month, its what I can afford/morally justify with a kid on the way. I believe they give the option to make it recurring as you check out, it just bills my credit card each month.
The whole system is silly, and I think the NIL era is going to last <10 years before revenue sharing. But for now, I feel I need to give something and hope that others can give enough to keep Rutgers competitive in the NIL field. I do think the deals you hear about XYZ player are completely overblown or exceedingly rare. There's probably 20 schools where kids are making bank, the rest are putting a few bucks in pockets which is fair. It's been great for some female athletes to make money through their social media presence, which is cool because they have such limited earning potential from athletics alone.
Harbaugh is 10000% right that the coaches are the ones who should be giving back salary to players. Coaching and admin salaries have EXPLODED In the last 15 years, its truly absurd. That's the main reason I support NIL and eventually revenue sharing w/ players. There's just way too much $$$ involved now.
That is fine. I would never tell anyone how to spend their money. I do think people with this opinion are hung up on college athletes getting paid for some weird reason. Let’s all stop pretending they are not professionals. This is big business and the schools that have more NIL money will get better players. It’s just reality. There is no difference between a 20 year old college player and a 20 year old NBA/NFL player. The only difference is you pay NIL in the price of the ticket for the professional leagues and in college you pay it separately. They are both professionals if you look at it logically.
Again, I don't get why people don't mind paying coaches 10/mil year, but get hung up on a kid making 100k
I don't think you read what I wrote, and you're just spouting your own agenda. I have no problem with players getting paid. But the universities who are making milions should be the ones paying them.
Most schools lose money on athletics. These millions you are referring to don’t cover costs unless you want to see numerous sports cut.
The customer always pays for the product. That’s how business works. The university, like a professional sports organization, is there to make a profit. So if the universities paid the players they will charge more and it always will come out of the customers pocket.
Zero because like my stance on NIL, I'd never pay a fee for the right to pay for tickets.
You made a whole thread about it ...
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