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Hayden Rettig

Kindergarten? Lot of kids don't even start organized sports before Kindergarten.
Yeah, I realized that after some other posters chimed in.

Was simply going off of my own experience with my kids.

My 4 year old was into race cars and racing from a very young age (I blame Hot Wheels). He watches Formula 1 and is aware that even though there are several teams, cars, & drivers there are only 3 podium finishes.

And so he has simply accepted the fact that not everyone can win but everyone can try their best from a very young age.

He pretty much just extrapolates this concept to other things in life.

Oh yeah, he's also aware that I'm a big Rutgers Football fan so he has seen firsthand how "I" (obviously I'm not out there on the field) handle losing myself.
 
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Parents are terrible today. Remember when we were kids, if you did not make the team or get to start, parents would say--better luck next time, and work hard and you will be rewarded. Today--some practically come armed with a lawyer or challenge every decision of the coaches because little Johnny deserves better.

Do you honestly believe your own "back in the day" BS? It's laughable.
 
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How old are you? It's obviously bothering you because you have to resort to 3rd grade name calling. Once again, I have moved on and Rettig not being the starter is not going to make me lose any sleep at night. However, I feel that he can be a more effective QB for this team than any other QB on this team. If you disagree and trust the track record of an incompetent coaching staff (Flood) and one that is learning on the job (Ash), good for you.

EDIT: BTW, congratulations on using a kid's true freshman year as your other argument.

This. And the opinion of a 28 year old OC who was coaching WR's in the mighty AAC conference last season.
 
I think everything should be instructional, controlled, and equal playing time until about 3rd grade. After that I am anti participation trophies.

Interesting topic. I am not big on participation trophies, but I am big on participation. I have three young boys and they are naturally competitve. The oldest who just turned 6 already plays Club soccer (by his choosing) and my 3 yo plays rec soccer and keeps score even though nobody else does. However, have any of you folks that say no to participation trophies ever run half or full marathon or an OCR race like Spartan? Because every adult finisher in those races gets a participation trophy (medal) and I have never seen a single adult turn one down at the finish line. Just sayin'
 
Interesting topic. I am not big on participation trophies, but I am big on participation. I have three young boys and they are naturally competitve. The oldest who just turned 6 already plays Club soccer (by his choosing) and my 3 yo plays rec soccer and keeps score even though nobody else does. However, have any of you folks that say no to participation trophies ever run half or full marathon or an OCR race like Spartan? Because every adult finisher in those races gets a participation trophy (medal) and I have never seen a single adult turn one down at the finish line. Just sayin'

I have run many spartans and tough mudders. I think the difference is they only promote winners and times if you are running in the elite heat. In the elite heat there are winners and losers.
 
And you're a deranged, sad old man who can't accept the fact that the world has left him behind.
Does it not do that to all of us? I never got this type of taunt. You like poetry, right?

Poetry from Headstones
Variations on a theme
Poems or verses tend to recur with unflagging regularity, sometimes with a subtle difference in the tone or a slight alteration in the wording. The poem that is used as the introduction to the History From Headstones poetry section:

Remember Man as you go by
As you are now so once was I
As I am now so shall you be,
Prepare yourself to follow me


is replicated in many versions, in many countries, on many tombstones. Its clarion call to the living to concentrate their minds on the inevitability of death is guaranteed to chill the spine of the most optimistic of souls; its somewhat sanctimonious shredding of the schadenfreude we might feel at being numbered amongst the living while mourning the dead, is truly a blast of reality from beyond the grave.

The Shannon headstone erected in 1857 in Balmoral Cemetery, Belfast, offers one variant on this refrain:

Stop traveller and cast an eye,
As you are now so once was I,
Prepare in time make no delay
For youth and time will pass away.


The headstone erected by Widow Gentle in Knockbreda graveyard, County Down, to the memory of her husband Matthew offers another:

Once I stood where thou dost now,
And viewed the dead as thou dost me,
Ere long thou'lt lie as low as I
And others stand and look on thee.


A third version adorns the McCavitt gravestone at Killeney:

Good people dear as you pass by,
On my cold grave do cast an eye
As you are now so once was I,
As I am now so shall you be,
Prepare for death and follow me.
Erected to the memory of John McCavitt, Killeney, who died 15th September 1873


This verse has uncanny similarities to the famous self-penned (in 1938) epitaph inscribed upon the gravestone, in Drumcliff cemetery, Sligo, of the poet William Butler Yeats:

Cast a cold eye
On life, on death
Horseman Pass by!


Although this verse and its variants ostensibly represent the warning words of the deceased, they were clearly written, the intervention of necromancers notwithstanding, by the living. One could read them as a didactic message from a conservative Church, some form of shock therapy aimed at controlling the aberrant behaviour of the flock, or merely an ironic comment on the transient nature of mortality. But human nature being what it is one will always encounter individual iconoclasts striving to undercut the strictures of society. Reputedly, some rather jaundiced souls, doubtless peeved at the perceived smugness of the verse, were wont to add on a terse, telling, two-fingered riposte:

I won’t be content
Until I know which way you went.

http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?id=765


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Sigh ... There are many things about a team, and individual players that are, and should, stay private. Just because someone is a fan, or even a donor, does not mean that fan or donor has a "right" to know these private things. And frankly, anonymous message board posters have even fewer rights to know these private things.

Sometimes it is simply none of your business unless RU and/or individual players choose to make certain things public. For the life of me, I cannot understand why people do not get that.

Many people, from multiple sources, many times, dating back to August or even September of LAST season (2015) have tried to gently hint there is more going on than is public, than meets the eye, or than even SHOULD be public.

With that said, from what I have heard, it has nothing to do with Rettig's raw intelligence or academic ability, both of which seem to be excellent. Nor does it have anything to do with attitude, as by all accounts Rettig is very responsive to coaches. Nor does it have to do with effort, as I have never heard work ethic is an issue. Nor does it have to do with his likability, as best I can tell. And by ALL accounts Rettig really likes being at RU.

I would really just recommend all those who keep harping on Rettig to be the starting QB for RU to JUST ... LET ... IT ... GO ... Though I suppose you never say never, it would seem to be a very remote chance at this stage.

If you have a complaint about the QB situation (not unfair to have these complaints), then focus on Laviano versus Gio vs Allen vs Oden.

Please.

With all due respect, lock the thread, delete it, but we don't need a lecture. I think it's fair for people to express their frustration and wonder about questionable quarterback decision making, which spans at least two head coaches and at least 15 years.
 
I tend to agree. When you watch warm up he clearly seems to throw the tightest spirals and has the best arm strength. Probably can't run it very well but none of these guys except Oden have the athletic ability for the run game portion of the power spread system. It was ironic that Oden was not even warming up with the other QBs before the second half started.
Didn't he run about 30 yards in his only appearance in that first half. Most of us did not see any negatives in his play.
This is a mystery for sure.
 
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This an observation and does not take into account pure statistical numbers. I'm also not advocating for him to play now.

Rettig's first half against a horrible Norfolk team was the best, most energetic half of QB play we've seen since Nova''s departure.
 
This an observation and does not take into account pure statistical numbers. I'm also not advocating for him to play now.

Rettig's first half against a horrible Norfolk team was the best, most energetic half of QB play we've seen since Nova''s departure.
What about the second half against Indiana 2015?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/playbyplay?gameId=400763541
And while a loss, he turned in solid performance against Michigan State last year.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/playbyplay?gameId=400763540
 
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