He is playing better but nothing as good as Dylan’s back to back 36-37 point games . He shot 17 foul shots. I did not watch the game but I can surmise since it was at Duke he got the benefit of the whistle. Watching Duke’s prior game or so , they are going thru Flagg instead of their guards to facilitate their offense. Appears they did the same. Credit to NotreDame to keep game close. They hit 14 threes shooting 60+ percent. Normally you win those games.
Not sure if he’ll be a bust. If you’re measuring stick is will he be transformational, carry a team on his back to championships and become the face of the NBA, then yes, ok he will be a bust. But is he going to be an Anthony Bennett type of bust? No, I don’t think so. I think he’ll be a good NBA player, I wouldn’t use the 1st pick on him but I don’t think he’ll be out of the league in 3-4 years. He’ll be a good player and have a productive career. Dylan has more upside in my opinion. Ace has more upside and potential as well, but if certain aspects of Ace’s game don’t develop, Flagg could end up being the more consistent and productive player in a team’s rotation in the NBA. If Ace develops his ball handling (his handles are not good right now), decision making, passing, he’ll be a better player than Flagg.
LOL. Scarlet colored glasses. Flagg can do it all. Best all-around prospect since Lebron, more than Zion. And he’ll do just fine in the NBA against minimal defenses.
"Big gap".....Ace is the best shot maker in the upcoming draft. Flagg is definitely the best all around prospect right now but Ace is the best shot maker. Dylan caught the flu so now we are all forgetting. He was making a case for the number 1 pick with his all around game and some inefficient games from flagg earlier in the season. Again Flagg is no. 1 but no need to downplay Ace and Dylans standing...
Not downplaying. They in the 2-5 range. That’s phenomenal. Almost any other year (eg LeBron coming out) our guys might be the #1 but not this year.
Again, Flagg is going no. 1 but to say there is a "big gap" as far as basketball goes is downplaying the talent of Dylan and Ace. Just 2 weeks ago people were saying Dylan should go no. 1. 42 points with 17 foul shots doesn't make it a big gap now. What did Dylan do against Notre Dame? Did Ace's 39 point game create a big gap? Flagg will be no. 1 but I wouldn't doubt the talent of Ace and Dylan if I were you. Lol I know you guys don't like the NBA but time will tell.
I want whatever you are smoking!!
Stop with the not as good as Dylan nonsense. First Dylan shot 14 against ND, not a big difference. Dylan took 22 shots against ND, Flagg 14. RU's offense wasn't facilitated through Dylan?
Uh, he'll be the best all round prospect since Wemby.
I said all-around talent, but ok, you got me. Yes Wemby would have been taken ahead of Flagg.
Nope. Not the Unibrow. No chance. But I’ll concede possibly K.A.T.
Did he do it back to back against a top 5 team. Dylan scored 36 against Notre Dame and Flagg scored 42 against Notre dame. But then Dylan followed that up with a 37 point masterpiece that a top 5 team threw every defender at him and could not stop him. So you stop with your nonsense. Flagg has had a number of mediocre games. In his last 6 as they are running the offense thru him and his production has elevated. Now unfortunately he plays Miami at home , who are a shell of themselves , next game and not a ranked top team. Before Dylan got ill , he was not just mentioned by basketball people as just the best freshman but one of the best players in the country and yes the # 1 pick.
Just watched the Sports Center highlights and Notre Dame literally left him open with no one within 10 feet of him on his 4 made threes. Also watched him get a pass at the foul line and fly in for a dunk without not one Notre Dame defender even trying to stop him. Basically treated him like he didn’t need to be guarded. Dylan never gets that treatment. It actually was shocking how open and uncontested he was. ACE ‘s 39 point game was made with one amazing shot after another . Didn’t see any of that in the highlights.
He had 42 points, 4 of 6 from 3 and attempted 17 foul shots making 16…Someone was paying attention if they fouled him.
This kid was 18 playing against the full team USA roster and looked like he belonged. Not saying ace and Dylan won’t be better but to say as a matter of fact he doesn’t have the same upside is wild.
Court awareness, vision, “ice water in veins” and innate basketball IQ are gifts.
Shelby is saying cooper Flagg would be taken ahead of a 7 foot unicorn player. Shelby doesn't understand Anthony Davis elite defender, scorer, jump shooter, post player, 3 pt shot. I don't want to make it seem like I'm saying Flagg isn't good. The point everyone here is making us that there isn't a "big gap". Shelby refuses to understand this even though Shelby knows the same experts he's talking about, were saying maybe Harper should be no. 1 just 2 weeks ago. Shelby needs to be reasonable.
I have not looked this up hit how many players in Duke have been in that system in terms of their team today?
What I don't understand about this narrative is who or what did pike give up by bringing these 2 players in? If anything it was a huge risk not bringing in better talent to surround them with. Recruits haven't panned out over the last couple of years. I like the class they have signed up for next year though. I just don't understand how bringing in Dylan and Ace can be seen as a negative for Rutgers.
That is normally true and Duke has a couple of upperclassman but it appears their success over the the last 6-7 games as they are on a 10 game win streak , it due to their freshman , Flagg , Knueppel and Malauch . They run their offense thru their freshman and gelled presently. A tribute to their coach.
Not saying upgrading talent was a mistake. It’s more about who they are surrounded by. The rest of our team is a disaster in roster makeup. My point is more geared towards having continuity in your program with older players who have culture/system knowledge(aka Cliff in this example). A guy like Martini has upperclassman experience but not in our program.
Thank you as I haven’t really looked at their program and credit to their coach for that.
You mean the other two freshman…because the three freshman starters do play plenty, obviously.
The intensity and sophistication of NBA defense is exponentially higher than anything any of these players are seeing at the college level.
These guys are already loaded and will be NBA rookies next year. Money is not as big with them. But I can't find any argument for Ace as a negative unless you can tell me the talent that would've entered the program in his place. And it would have to be someone pretty good players lol but I respect your opinion.
Don't be ridiculous. Of course he does. Ace is one dimensional, although much of this might be Pike's fault. He doesn't defend, doesn't rebound, hasn't shot well from the foul line, and might be averaging less than two assists per game. Quite honestly, he doesn't appear to have a high basketball IQ either. I heard a basketball commentator say that he saw Flagg score 6 points in a game prior to going to Duke and he was still the best player on the floor.
