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Hispanics and Blacks protest to get into Univ of Cal Berkerly

I have emailed the AD many times, and I donated to the GoFundMe among other endeavors. The response from RU was clear. They don't care. I am convinced they will not care unless there is some other media sh$tstorm. Frankly even if Greg Brown or someone else ponied up big bucks, the process would still get botched. Until then we as fans need to collectively remind them of money and scandal, not ethics, or winning, or arrests, or thinks normal places might look at.
Do you feel it's the AD's job to keep you informed of everything going on behind the scenes? If you are positive they will botch it why bother with change? Did you think go fund me was buying out the staff, AD, andPresident?
 
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Ithaca College protests Tom Rochon. Many on campus — students and faculty included — have called for a vote of no confidence for the college's president.
 
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Ithaca College protests Tom Rochon. Many on campus — students and faculty included — have called for a vote of no confidence for the college's president.


1. It's now become cool and trendy.

2. Given the PC environment at most of these schools it's also a grab for power and influence. While some demands have justification, others are looney. But no matter how looney they might be they are actually being taken seriously.
 
http://abc7news.com/education/stude...ore-latino-african-american-students/1076771/

The Missouri protest is just beginning to push for more minority positions. Will have to increase remedial courses to assist the failing marginalized students. I know I can not get into Cal Berkeley but wish someone let me into an Ivy League school.
shouldnt this be moved automatically to the CE Board?

Or is that only with postings that the libs on this board disagree with?

Selective thought police anyone?
 
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you are kidding me with this argument. There are also so many whites who are poor and grow up with a crap environment....are we helping them..well no because they are white not black

the notion that all whites are born on third base is comical. I am not crying and lobbying the government because my parents didn't own a McMansion. That's life. People are born into all difference economical circumstances. Its called hard work, working your way up. Most people have to do it. Most of us aren't born into a privileged rich household
I really worry about the logic of the next generation of libs being bred...
 
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While I recognize the truth in that, I'm not sure how that's relevant here. Unless you mean to say that you think admissions should be based on where a person is coming from, and not on their race? Not everyone living in a "hood" is of a single race.

Also, let's say an elite college makes a certain number of slots available to race X based on percentage of population (or whatever). How likely do you think it is that those slots will be filled by people of race X from a "hood" versus people of race X from suburbia? I guess what I'm saying is that, if the problem is escaping from the hood, then that problem should be addressed more directly (in the hood) and non-racially (because, again, not everyone in a hood is of a single race).

I don't have the answers, but I don't think artificially lowering the bar for entry to elite schools or excluding those people who have worked hard and most deserve to be admitted is the correct solution. I think, probably, that finding ways to raise the qualifications of underrepresented groups so that they can better compete is more likely to be a solution where everybody wins.

Otherwise, our nation's most important national security interest, education, becomes a race to mediocrity. This would not be a good thing.

I do, however, think that our country would be well-served to ensure that any student that maintains a certain level of grades in HS can get a college education. Not necessarily at an elite school, and not at the cost of some other deserving student not being able to attend college. I just think it's in our national interest to find a way to have as well-educated a populace as possible. In fact I think it's a national security issue at least as important as defense funding.

If anyone wants to talk about an affirmative action policy based on last five years income, family size and assets, I'm all in.

I completely agree with reserving a number of slots for economically disadvantaged families...

Note that race has zero to do with it.
 
Some students protested at the 250th event and one of their issues was the lack of Native American undergraduate students.

Another student said there are only 21 Native American undergraduate students.
"Where is the representation?" she said.


Unreal.
 
You know, I thought my questions were posed with respect and you answer with that? Heck, I even said that if the answers to those questions were no across the board, it certainly sounds race-related. You didn't even address some of my questions like visible tats, piercings, or how much later in the day it was. Thanks for elevating the level of discourse. o_O

I thought your response was a joke as soon as I read the comment about tattoos, piercings and being well dressed.....so I responded in kind. I said this occurred when I was a student at Rutgers. Maybe students have tattoos and face piercings now. .....but not in my day. Do students that really have ambitions to work in a professional setting have visible tattoos and piercings?
 
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I really worry about the logic of the next generation of libs being bred...

Sure what these kids are doing in some respects is worrisome, but I didn't realize it was only the "libs" that were off their rocker. I guess when someone is as partisan as you that is how you view everything.
 
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Do you feel it's the AD's job to keep you informed of everything going on behind the scenes? If you are positive they will botch it why bother with change? Did you think go fund me was buying out the staff, AD, andPresident?

Because I have known RU long enough to know how they work. They only work with their backs to the wall. When was the last time we had a coaching search in both sports that was properly handled...Schiano? Waters maybe? Other than that from the BE on it's been mostly crisis attitude with crisis results.
 
It's always 5 minutes to midnight on the doomsday clock for right wingers, but not because of things like too many guns, climate change or toxic waste. Due to things like too much political correctness on college campuses or two women marrying. How will we survive?????!
 
Sure what these kids are doing in some respects is worrisome, but I didn't realize it was only the "libs" that were off their rocker. I guess when someone is as partisan as you that is how you view everything.
well, I don't see the conservatives protesting all over the place...but correct if I'm wrong and you have examples to show...
 
well, I don't see the conservatives protesting all over the place...but correct if I'm wrong and you have examples to show...

What??? Right wingers just had a rally, and showed up armed, at mosques in arizona and texas. On the Bundy ranch they pointed loaded guns at federal agents. Tea partiers have had many many protests, also with guns in the open. Abortion clinic protests go on and on...you might salvage some credibility by admitting there are extremists on your side, too.
 
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well, I don't see the conservatives protesting all over the place...but correct if I'm wrong and you have examples to show...
There was that episode in Kentucky with the elected clerk for one. Then there is the whole war on Christmas because of red cups and glacier set ups in malls. You got the anti-Obama rallies, you got the anti-abortion rallies, you got the anti-gay marriage rallies, you got the anti-Muslim rallies, you the pro-gun rallies. Rallying isn't a purely radical left pastime.
 
What??? Right wingers just had a rally, and showed up armed, at mosques in arizona and texas. On the Bundy ranch they pointed loaded guns at federal agents. Tea partiers have had many many protests, also with guns in the open. Abortion clinic protests go on and on...you might salvage some credibility by admitting there are extremists on your side, too.
really...because we are talking about colleges here in this thread...

But feel free to try to bring up tea party events of years ago. Jesus...try to keep up.
 
There was that episode in Kentucky with the elected clerk for one. Then there is the whole war on Christmas because of red cups and glacier set ups in malls. You got the anti-Obama rallies, you got the anti-abortion rallies, you got the anti-gay marriage rallies, you got the anti-Muslim rallies, you the pro-gun rallies. Rallying isn't a purely radical left pastime.
and this all happening on college campuses?

after all, that's what this thread is about...and what the comemnt was about...
 
and this all happening on college campuses?

after all, that's what this thread is about...and what the comemnt was about...
Actually the link in the OP was not college students, it was middle school students. However, your comment was general, conservatives. Perhaps older conservatives' behavior and ideology has turned off the college-bound youth. Maybe younger conservatives are happy with the status quo, because things have gone well for them and the people they associate with in comparison.

Let's face it, social media has given a voice to those who believed they were voiceless. The current flavor of the week being reported is the college students, but social media had a significant impact on the rallies supporting the elected clerk in Kentucky and the gun-toting supporters of Bundy out west, just to name a few. People crave attention regardless of political ideology and social media is giving people that attention for better or worse - depends on your point of view.

I know bringing to light such things as overly aggressive police tactics or unresponsive leadership regarding racial issues makes people not directly impacted by these issues uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean they aren't real issues that need to be addressed. I believe that the views shared by most on this thread will only make the process more difficult and uncomfortable for those who think these protests are outrageous, because most are in a state of denial that these are real issues and ignoring will just give the radical aspects more pull.
 
Actually the link in the OP was not college students, it was middle school students. However, your comment was general, conservatives. Perhaps older conservatives' behavior and ideology has turned off the college-bound youth. Maybe younger conservatives are happy with the status quo, because things have gone well for them and the people they associate with in comparison.

Let's face it, social media has given a voice to those who believed they were voiceless. The current flavor of the week being reported is the college students, but social media had a significant impact on the rallies supporting the elected clerk in Kentucky and the gun-toting supporters of Bundy out west, just to name a few. People crave attention regardless of political ideology and social media is giving people that attention for better or worse - depends on your point of view.

I know bringing to light such things as overly aggressive police tactics or unresponsive leadership regarding racial issues makes people not directly impacted by these issues uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean they aren't real issues that need to be addressed. I believe that the views shared by most on this thread will only make the process more difficult and uncomfortable for those who think these protests are outrageous, because most are in a state of denial that these are real issues and ignoring will just give the radical aspects more pull.

except, the unreponsive leadership about racial issues clealry looks trumped up...the student leader has gone public saying he fabricated the story of the KKK on campus, the hunger striker wasn't even close to being bumped by the President's car as he claimed, the truckload of students yelling racial slurs has not been confirmed, the feces/swastika..who knows what that was?

The hunger striker who is requiring the President to denounce his white privlege comes from a welathy family with his Dad earning $8 million last year and also conveniently happens to be the same kid who was leading the graduate student revolt against losing a grad student helath insurance subsidy....then, whamo, it's racism endemic on campus.

It's pretty clear what's happening is much like Ferguson...stories get blown up and carried like widfire...some of the football team get incited...they throw in...the Adminsitraiton tries to address concerns but the more they do the more the bar is raised.

The list of demands is insane...

And, now it's on to Ithaca College and...and...and...because this is the new cool thing to do.

A pampered generation who have grown up with the best of everything now desperately looking for soemthing to protest.

And a gullible public willing to accept, without research, any tripe thrown their way by the press.

Pathetic...
 
except, the unreponsive leadership about racial issues clealry looks trumped up...the student leader has gone public saying he fabricated the story of the KKK on campus, the hunger striker wasn't even close to being bumped by the President's car as he claimed, the truckload of students yelling racial slurs has not been confirmed, the feces/swastika..who knows what that was?

The hunger striker who is requiring the President to denounce his white privlege comes from a welathy family with his Dad earning $8 million last year and also conveniently happens to be the same kid who was leading the graduate student revolt against losing a grad student helath insurance subsidy....then, whamo, it's racism endemic on campus.

It's pretty clear what's happening is much like Ferguson...stories get blown up and carried like widfire...some of the football team get incited...they throw in...the Adminsitraiton tries to address concerns but the more they do the more the bar is raised.

The list of demands is insane...

And, now it's on to Ithaca College and...and...and...because this is the new cool thing to do.

A pampered generation who have grown up with the best of everything now desperately looking for soemthing to protest.

And a gullible public willing to accept, without research, any tripe thrown their way by the press.

Pathetic...
If you don't see that this kind of stuff happens from post ideological wings than I don't know what to tell you.

With regards to the hunger strike guy being from a wealthy family...what does that matter? Are rich people not allowed to stand for something they believe in? If that is the case, why are folks like the David Koch dumping so much money into political campaigns?

Can't someone from a more fortunate upbringing look out for those who may have not?

Should a man not be allowed to be pro-life because he can't have a baby?

I am a moderately liberal person and I think what is going on at these schools is partially misguided, but I understand there are truly issues that need to be dealt with. The reason this all seems so outrageous to you is that many folks as demonstrated on this thread don't think there is any issue. Continuing to ignore it will only make the reaction from these students seem even more outrageous. Ignoring it for so long, it is our own fault.
 
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If you don't see that this kind of stuff happens from post ideological wings than I don't know what to tell you.

With regards to the hunger strike guy being from a wealthy family...what does that matter? Are rich people not allowed to stand for something they believe in? If that is the case, why are folks like the David Koch dumping so much money into political campaigns?

Can't someone from a more fortunate upbringing look out for those who may have not?

Should a man not be allowed to be pro-life because he can't have a baby?

I am a moderately liberal person and I think what is going on at these schools is partially misguided, but I understand there are truly issues that need to be dealt with. The reason this all seems so outrageous to you is that many folks as demonstrated on this thread don't think there is any issue. Continuing to ignore it will only make the reaction from these students for example to seem even more outrageous. Ignoring it for so long, it is our own fault.
It's something how often the circle jerkers call on you to prove or show something and the moment you do they then look to change the narrative. "But we weren't talking about that kind of thing. LOL.
 
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BUT......... Our politicians and Admin allow less qualified students into RUNB. We allow students from NB, Newark and Camden with lower admission standards then any other student from NJ. Heck we have the Targum editorial protesting the new Honors College as being elitist. We wonder why some of our ratintigs are so low? This is one of the reasons.
The Honors College should be for the elites in academia.... There would be an issue if those with grades good enough to get in don't get in base on bias or some other bs...
 
NJFAN I've always been curious did your kids make the military their careers. Happy belated veterans day to you and your family and Thank You as well
 
It's something how often the circle jerkers call on you to prove or show something and the moment you do they then look to change the narrative. "But we weren't talking about that kind of thing. LOL.
I love how pussies like you keep calling people names but when you are called out you don't have the balls to back up your name calling.
 
NJFAN I've always been curious did your kids make the military their careers. Happy belated veterans day to you and your family and Thank You as well

Very kind of you greenknight … After graduating Ranger School, they both eventually deployed overseeing their respective commands. One has since opted out, working on his MBA and “enjoying” Corporate America. The other presently remains in the Army and it appears he will becoming a Major very soon. Thanks for asking and your kind words.
 
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I love how pussies like you keep calling people names but when you are called out you don't have the balls to back up your name calling.
You could always put your seat location in your signature so that the pussies could come visit you. You could even state your preference for wanting them to have their balls out on display when they visit.
 
Awesome to hear. Congrats I've never been to West Pt but dieing to go spend the day up there and tour the facilities. Just came back from New Orleans for work but got to visit the National WWII MUSEUM huge war history buff here
 
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THIS THREAD IS STILL ON THE WRONG BOARD.

It's not a general "academics campus life and more!!!" board.

It's specifically for Rutgers issues and Rutgers ALONE on those topics.

This is a great Board for what it is already. Don't ruin it.

Please move it to where it should be. And I was fine with it as a regular OT on the FB Board. Some of the "mods" IMO are way too thin-skinned when it comes to this kind of stuff. Especially if not in agreement with the thread.


And for the record...Section 219 Row 3 seats 5-8. Stop by and say hello. We need all the Rutgers fans we can get up there.
 
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E5FDNY is exactly right.

This board has been almost entirely free of juvenile personal insults, vapid partisan quips, etc.,and it would be nice to keep it that way. I know some posters can't resist doing these things, but please take it elsewhere.
 
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