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"I didn't steal any crab legs."

Accepting free gifts is a NCAA rules violation. So he commited a crime PLUS broke a NCAA rule. How is that suppose to be better?
 
PhilaPhans said:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2015/st...eminoles-says-crab-legs-were-given-not-stolen

Jameis Winston swears that he didn't steal the crab legs. He swears he just received improper benefits for getting everything for free wherever he went.

I wouldn't touch this kid with a 10' pole if I was an NFL GM.
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Just an FYI this Publix is walking distance to campus and right across from a huge fraternity complex built by a developer. 99% of the people working there are students. I guess Rutgers players never got free beers at the Old Queens. I'm not saying its right but this store is closer to the FSU campus than the Olive Branch is to the River dorms. I'm guessing high profile athletes at all Universities get a little fringe at the local establishments.
 
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RU85inFla said:
I'm guessing high profile athletes at all Universities get a little fringe at the local establishments.
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I'm guessing a lot of these athletes don't shout to the press "I'm not a thief, I just receive improper benefits." The point of me posting this thread was two-fold.

1.) Jameis Winston is an idiot.
2.) I wonder how much the NCAA is going to look into this now that he's admitted getting whatever he wants for free. Makes me think of the homeless Baylor kid that was told not to accept housing but did so anyway and lost his NCAA eligibility. Total different situation, but the NCAA seems serious about not wanting kids to benefit from anything like they do.
 
this kid is not Ryan Leaf - Leaf couldn't even make a throw. Winston could be an NFL pro bowler - i expect him to win games as a rookie.

Cam Newton seemed to have a similar rep in college as Winston and he has kept it together in the NFL.
 
In all honesty I watched the ESPN documentary yesterday and thought Winston came off rather well. He was very humbled, polite and thankful during the documentary. Listening to the story as he told it did not sound as bad as the media made it out to be.
 
RU85inFla said:
Just an FYI this Publix is walking distance to campus and right across from a huge fraternity complex built by a developer. 99% of the people working there are students. I guess Rutgers players never got free beers at the Old Queens. I'm not saying its right but this store is closer to the FSU campus than the Olive Branch is to the River dorms. I'm guessing high profile athletes at all Universities get a little fringe at the local establishments.
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This is too funny. Winston is the devil himself for telling the truth about what probably happened. But Ray Rice got a raw deal. Get over yourselves.

IMO ray rice did get a raw deal from the NFL, and Winston just got some free crab legs and is sick of hearing he is a theif.
 
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The guy actually seems pretty intelligent.

That's what makes what he did even more alarming.
 
I would be more worried about the ESPN guy who believes it is OK to commit a crime because everyone does it, it.s a hookup, not a crime! OH Boy
 
IL Lusciato said:
Winston just got some free crab legs and is sick of hearing he is a theif.
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Unless you're the owner of the establishment, they weren't the employee's to "give away." Therefore, you're receiving stolen goods, which makes it a theft.

And no, I'm just trying to be technical about this specific argument. Of course I've personally given away free stuff and been given hookups at my various places of work over the years, so I'm no better than him if this is what actually happened and he isn't just being a lying sack of you-know-what. Again, with all the strikes in his background, I wouldn't trust the guy enough to draft him.
 
Funny how some are reacting to this. To me, he's finally being honest. Anyone who was paying attention knew someone told him not to bother paying for the crab legs. Whether he was foolish for taking that person's word is up for debate, but I suspect it wasn't the first time.

We've all had friends who worked in stores, pizzerias, restaurants, etc. who "hooked us up" when we were kids. Was it stealing? Of course, but the young mind doesn't always see it that way. And we didn't have to be star football players to receive the benefits.
 
CranfordKnight said:
Funny how some are reacting to this. To me, he's finally being honest. Anyone who was paying attention knew someone told him not to bother paying for the crab legs. Whether he was foolish for taking that person's word is up for debate, but I suspect it wasn't the first time.

We've all had friends who worked in stores, pizzerias, restaurants, etc. who "hooked us up" when we were kids. Was it stealing? Of course, but the young mind doesn't always see it that way. And we didn't have to be star football players to receive the benefits.
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He's a moron for risking his draft position for some crab legs and a public stunt. Literally has the potential to cost him millions.

Big difference between that and accepting a free shot at the bar.
 
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He's a moron for risking his draft position for some crab legs and a public stunt. Literally has the potential to cost him millions.

Big difference between that and accepting a free shot at the bar.
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Please explain.
 
miketd1 said:
He's a moron for risking his draft position for some crab legs and a public stunt. Literally has the potential to cost him millions.

Big difference between that and accepting a free shot at the bar.
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I agree. No one gets a "hook up" at a supermarket for free stuff, never mind crab legs. It's bizarre to try to leave a supermarket without paying because someone told you to (or whatever the scenario was). You actually have the goods on you and you take them off their premises. The bar often has buy back policies, some leeway by bartenders (size of pour, freebies), and much different policies to control inventory. You don't see the cops arresting people for accepting free drinks because it's on the bartender.

I know there are some people out there who cannot understand the difference, but they would most likely not be able to successfully post on a message board without some sort of assistance.
 
superfan01 said:
In all honesty I watched the ESPN documentary yesterday and thought Winston came off rather well. He was very humbled, polite and thankful during the documentary. Listening to the story as he told it did not sound as bad as the media made it out to be.
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If anyone believes Winston is humbled and polite they've been shucked.
 
The owners didn't give him a hook up but his friends who work there did. When I was in HS and friends work at stores they gave us free stuff the owners didn't know about.
 
I said during the documentary he was polite and humble. I don't know him in real life. As for the crab legs it is believable. It was probably a fsu student who worked the counter or register at the publix and was excited to see Winston and said it was on him.
It's not like athletes don't get other free stuff all day from local owners and such. I'm sure if he walked into a deli near campus the sandwich is free.
 
miketd1 said:
He's a moron for risking his draft position for some crab legs and a public stunt. Literally has the potential to cost him millions.

Big difference between that and accepting a free shot at the bar.
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I agree that as a high profile athlete he was stupid to not see the risk involved and what the consequences would be. But there are people commenting in this thread that I am 100% positive have done the same and worse things as teens and young adults. People "hook up" their friends all the time.
 
CranfordKnight said:
I agree that as a high profile athlete he was stupid to not see the risk involved and what the consequences would be. But there are people commenting in this thread that I am 100% positive have done the same and worse things as teens and young adults. People "hook up" their friends all the time.
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The problem is that it's still illegal to take it, even if your friends "hook you up." If the store manager found about it, he could legally press charges against you, as well as your friend who hooked you up.
 
CranfordKnight said:
I agree that as a high profile athlete he was stupid to not see the risk involved and what the consequences would be. But there are people commenting in this thread that I am 100% positive have done the same and worse things as teens and young adults. People "hook up" their friends all the time.
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Would we have made the same choices as teens knowing that our every move would be analyzed by ESPN and every blogger and rehashed on Deadspin and the Twitterverse?

Heck, would you call out sick to go to a ball game if you knew the world was watching and just waiting for a "gotcha!" moment to pounce on?

NFL teams hire former top level security folks to conduct thorough background checks with a fine tooth comb. No one cares if you or I go to jail, but if the #1 pick can't play on Sunday because he's a moron, it costs everyone a lot of money and brings shame to the franchise (see: Jonny College Football).
 
superfan01 said:
In all honesty I watched the ESPN documentary yesterday and thought Winston came off rather well. He was very humbled, polite and thankful during the documentary. Listening to the story as he told it did not sound as bad as the media made it out to be.
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That's the exact same way reporters in FLA thought of Winston after EACH and EVERY TIME he had to go infront of the press to apologize after every mistep and he would say how he would stay out of trouble for now on.

Well...he kept getting into trouble...and his words became hollow, as he never did what he said he was going to do.

He is a great "talker", and he seems to sucker a few everytime he speaks.

PS. He could still be a good performing NFL QB and be an idiot/jerk at the same time.
 
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