I'm very jealous of UConn and their new rivalry game

[derleider]

In the next round of conference reshuffling, the ACC is almost certain to lose teams. Even if it is the B12 that takes the biggest hit, and the stragglers from the B12 merge with the slightly stronger ACC, the merger is likely to mean that the ACC merges into the B12, not the other way around. The B12 has more lucrative contracts (especially in regards to the playoff contract bowls, and retention of TV T3 rights). A merger of the conferences would be more lucrative if the ACC merges into the B12.

In the next round of conference reshuffling, the ACC is almost certain to lose teams. Even if it is the B12 that takes the biggest hit, and the stragglers from the B12 merge with the slightly stronger ACC, the merger is likely to mean that the ACC merges into the B12, not the other way around. The B12 has more lucrative contracts (especially in regards to the playoff contract bowls, and retention of TV T3 rights). A merger of the conferences would be more lucrative if the ACC merges into the B12.

With any merger that large, the contracts will more or less have to be redone either way and Im guessing that after the recent realignment sagas, any major contract the conference signs - be it with bowls, or TV, or marketing partners, has an out if there is a substantial composition change. Which title they go with will basically depend on where they want the conference HQ to be and which history they want to bring along. If Texas and OU go, and FSU and Clemson are still in the ACC, then it would almost surely be under the ACC title. Now the real interesting thing would be the scenario above, where FSU and Clemson are in the SEC, but the Big 12 still falls apart. You would have 5 pre-2011 Big 12 schools (Baylor, TCU, ISUS, KSU, Kansas), 4 pre-2003 ACC schools (Duke, Wake, NC State, GT), and 7 former Big East schools (VT, Miami, WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Louisville).

K_L - it might be on the table, but I doubt it happens. Who are they taking?

 

[JoeRU0304]

...While I can appreciate Diaco's enthusiasm this seems really, really lame...going out and having a professionally-made 'rivalry' trophy without any collaboration or agreement from the other side (which is 1200 miles away and youve only played them 2X ever) is just...I'm not even sure what to call it. Plus, from the pic it looks like UConn's big rivalry game is against Orco from He-Man.


Joe P.

 

[DontTedonMe]

Didn't the Big 12 just lose out on getting one of their teams in the four team playoff because they didn't have a CG ? You would think that would move them to add a couple teams (BYU and Cincy, presumably).

A few other thought:

I think UConn joins the Big East and parks its FB program in the MAC or Patriot League. There's already been mumblings to that effect.

Seems like WV sports has been placed in Siberia. You never hear about them since their move to the Big 12

Don't see UVa, NC to Big Ten. I know that's the "CW". I think the Big Ten wants Texas (and of course ND). I guess they could add another team to even it out should Texas (unlikely) join. All this talk about the ACC being raided is over hyped. They've lost one team to date and are much better managed than the old Big East.

 

[JoeRU0304]

WVU seems like Tom Hanks in Cast Away; they're alive, healthy in a lot of ways but marooned on an island. Hey, it's a tropical island and you'd much rather be there than say stranded at the South Pole, but you're still on an island. They also seem to be getting the 'BC' treatment in our press in that they're never really talked about anymore once they switched leagues.

 

[derleider]

Didn't the Big 12 just lose out on getting one of their teams in the four team playoff because they didn't have a CG ? You would think that would move them to add a couple teams (BYU and Cincy, presumably).

A few other thought:

I think UConn joins the Big East and parks its FB program in the MAC or Patriot League. There's already been mumblings to that effect.

Seems like WV sports has been placed in Siberia. You never hear about them since their move to the Big 12

Don't see UVa, NC to Big Ten. I know that's the "CW". I think the Big Ten wants Texas (and of course ND). I guess they could add another team to even it out should Texas (unlikely) join. All this talk about the ACC being raided is over hyped. They've lost one team to date and are much better managed than the old Big East.

They might have lost out on that - but they also had the bad luck of the top 4 teams also dominating their conference championships. Plus their two best teams played junk OOCs. In other words - one year is an awful short sample size on which to base a permanent decision on adding members.

Management is largely meaningless. The Big Ten isnt an aggressor primarily because of good management. Its an aggressor mostly because history has deeded the current version of the conference some really historically great teams in populous states.

Similarly the Big East mostly failed because it was founded as a basketball conference with a bunch of schools that didnt have big football fan bases and focused on BB (even the ones with football). Once PSU left (which was a management issue, but largely because of that first foundational fact) for the Big Ten, the Big East was just killing time.

 

[NickyNewark51]

Derleider,

What you write has a possibility of occurring. I've thought for awhile that the P5 will eventually become the P4, thinking that the Big 12 would eventually implode. I think the Big 12s core 4 eventually go to the PAC12. I think the SEC eventually adds FSU and Clemson. Big 10 probably snags UVA and GT.


ACC, I believe survives and becomes a much better league with a true East/West configuration. East likely being made up of the former BE schools, the West being the remaining Big 12 schools that don't go to the PAC12 + Cincy. Its going to be interesting because realignment isn't finished.

Not sure what becomes of our program. It's nice that we have decision makers that are very proactive since they're all Big 10 folks, but I worry that it might be too late for us. We needed to have these folks running the show for us 20 years ago.

I'm one of these RU fan's that really wishes the best for Temple...I think the ACC may be the conference you eventually end up in down the line !! As a lifetime NJ/NY area resident I just like TU's grit and tenacity under trying circumstances. Us RU fans know the feeling of being dissed and hate the snobs that fear us reaching our potential. If you can build up your fan base a bit a centrally located Philly school not named Villanova should find a solid home in CR.

 

[NickyNewark51]

WVU seems like Tom Hanks in Cast Away; they're alive, healthy in a lot of ways but marooned on an island. Hey, it's a tropical island and you'd much rather be there than say stranded at the South Pole, but you're still on an island. They also seem to be getting the 'BC' treatment in our press in that they're never really talked about anymore once they switched leagues.

That'll work.. Wilson Lol..

 

[MADHAT1]

Norte Dame parking their football program in a conference with Uconn, Louisville, and Cincy, not to mention the rest of the fodder, seems super unlikely.

Agree
For years the talk has been Notre Dame is going to have to join a conference, but I doubt they do for a long long time.
With the NBC contract for their FB games , schools willing to play FB games against ND at a neutral site and as long as ND has a home for its other sports , it has very little incentive to join a conference.
It has the best of both worlds as a football independent with its own TV contract and keeping all of its bowl revenue.
I think the only drawback it has is having to play ACC teams 5 games a year., but some like BC and Pitt have been playing ND for years
and Syracuse is willing to play in NYC .
Remember when it comes to NCAA FB affairs, Notre Dame has the same standing as a conference.
Joining a conference will give it an equal voice in conference affairs, but the conference will be its voice in NCAA FB affairs.

 

[Abro1975]

The only way this becomes a real rivalry is if Bob Diaco starts punching out George O'Leary before the game, and they are rolling around the 50 yard line like Happy Gilmore and Bob Barker.

 

[Howie'81]

The only part that holds any water is "Joe Paterno Cult Freakshow", everything else is hot air.

A whole boatload of talent has committed to that "freak show" in the past 18 months. Very likely that "freak show" is going to kick a lot of ass in the next few years.

 

[Kbee3]

A whole boatload of talent has committed to that "freak show" in the past 18 months. Very likely that "freak show" is going to kick a lot of ass in the next few years.

Are you a fan of that freak show or just an objective observer ?

 

[ScarletDave]

UVA and UNC were the two that made sense for a while there, but can we drop the love fest for UNC now? After what they've done, they don't deserve to be in the B1G, a conference that prides itself on academics and athletic integrity. The REAL best scenario (that no one says anymore because of the past, but it makes the most most sense) is Notre Dame to the B1G in ALL sports along with UVA. 16 teams, shut the doors. SEC grabs FSU & Clemson, 16 teams shut the doors. PAC grabs 4 of the Big 12, between UT OU TCU BAYLOR TTU KSU. At 16 teams, close the doors. And the ACC needs 4, takes from the remaining Big 12 and MAYBE a spot for an AAC, but gets to 16. Close the doors. Then you have the power 64 of football, 4 16-team conferences.