Tough conference. It’s still gonna be a tough conference having shed the East/West divisions.
Good. If and when RUFB eventually gets to the top, it’ll actually mean something.
Is Rutgers football becoming a top Big 10 program?
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Good. If and when RUFB eventually gets to the top, it’ll actually mean something.
It does seem, on paper at least, that this season will be our best chance to get to 5 conference wins since we joined the Big Ten. Still, is not gonna be easy.
Yeah one step at a time fellas.
We have lots of people with wallets. The challenge is getting them to open them to support Rutgers Athletics, as Athletic Success isn’t as important to Rutgers fans as it is to Tennessee fans, Penn State fans, Ohio State fans, or Michigan fans. This is the harsh reality that I have reconciled myself to. I’m hopeful that with consistent success, more people will be inclined to give.
Give to who? Players who in some situation make more than the average fan here? F that.
This and beating teams we’ve never beaten before.
Give to the R Fund to support the building of the Fieldhouse, if you don’t want to give to players.
But players are getting what the market will bear. This is the price of success. Basketball had a few supporters step up and bring a few lottery pick players here. We need similar godfathers for football. Or Lots of fans giving supporting would work too.
Why do you feel that is so AL? Is it no state pride , the indifference or something more?
I know this isn’t PC, but I also wonder if the demographics and cultural diversity hurt Rutgers in this regard.
Partially that but more of the lack of success
You saw what you were capable of as a fan base and state pride in the 06 season, specifically with the Louisville game
We have all the potential in the world, we just need to reach our full potential
The proclamations of future success without any are shocking.
Show me!
A good part of it is a lot of people who went to Rutgers thought the school provided terrible service. Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State fans have tremendous pride in their school.
I don’t think cultural diversity hurts Rutgers. I think other schools have fostered a culture of supporting the school.
That is true.
I do think the cultural diversity aspect hurts Rutgers financial support of athletics . Some cultures care and participate in athletics less than others
Not on an Ohio State level but definitely better than now
Conversely though, I firmly believe corporations will open up their wallets to support a winner
Perception is vital.
Networks and media giving us primetime, national kickoff times on Saturdays is huge.
We’ve had a few and for the most part shite the bed on those chances.
Of course the fans and corporations will open their wallets, it’s a natural progression that happens from winning.
Unfortunately it’s a chicken vs egg scenario, we need magic, most often that magic occurs in the form of an obvious game changing talented quarterback, capable of running your complete offense, take you on 80 yard TD drives in the last two minutes throwing the ball, and keeps your defense off the field.
The philosophy of eating clock and running the ball ain’t changing perception against top teams, it’s a formula to keep it close for a half or even three quarters, then get your doors blown off in the final fifteen minutes, it a formula to lose
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Many of those players had commitable offers from some of the big boys. Safety school for some but not all
GS 2.0 is starting to get media attention for building the program the right way:
This has not been accidental. The structuring taking place is an example of Schiano growing as a HC. Can he be frustrating at times? Yes… There isn’t a Rutgers fan who doesn’t realize top talent wins games .We see some level of talent and expect more of those type to join Schiano and his staff.We need that SPECIAL season in 2024. I believe that if we can stay healthy many things will turn out well.
You mean like the QB play at Iowa? MSU? penn St? Wisconsin? We are very close or even at their level today with all of our upperclassmen. penn St is a notch above the rest here but you get my point. None of these teams have QB's who win games by themselves. Not even close. Hell even Michigan relies on the run game and great defenses way more than their QB.
The key is continuity. Iowa is consistently good. Not great but very consistent. We are just climbing but clearly climbing and not stagnant or even up and down right now.
The new Big Teams change what I am saying but I want to see how they do before I comment. I wish they all had to play our grind of a schedule the past 10 years. The BIG can be brutal when you lack depth. We always played Iowa tough but I think they wore our teams down every year we played them and others too. It's not the little 10.
hahaha but he was a NR at that time. And then again- somehow a NR player had offers from Rutgers, Maryland, GaTech, NC State, USF, UCF - could have been a handful more but he shut those down before they could get to an offer.
agree with most of this and especially the continuity but you can't discount quality QB play as RU fans know all too well
Heard directly he was one of the hardest working kids on those teams.
Pulling for Rutgers here! Garden State (my adopted home) all the way!
Exactly. Sure, we can do it. But until we actually do do it, we shouldn’t act like we’ve done it.
I said doo doo. 😀
This is what surprised the crap out of me as I watched Maryland make the transition. It's hard to explain. I can assure you that my ACC buddies think I'm stupid when I try to. But a thin lineup was enough in that league; not so in the B1G....
I disagree, i think the schools culture matters more. If basketball goes like we all hope it will, it should be able to prove out our differing theories.
If you don’t want to donate that’s fine, there’s nothing wrong with that. But why disparage people that want to give a little if they can afford to?
The thing is, most if not all this board can afford to give $10 a month.
It’s about priorities and what they deem to be important enough.
I will never disparage anyone who does not give, as its solely a personal choice and everyone has their own bills to deal with with
But if you do not donate (and have the ability to, but choose not to ), you have zero reason to complain and bitch about the success, or lack there of, the athletic program (and specifically football) on a football message board.
Not sure your conclusion follows your premise but you can have whatever opinion you like.
Where does my quoted statement disparage anyone? Though I do believe you guys are being taken advantage of with this "NIL" donation program.
I’m optimistic because I think Schiano is building the program for longer-term success. Developing strong offensive and defensive lines takes time and has begun bearing fruit.
The premises I will not hose anyone that does not donate, the conclusion is, if we fail to achieve the success that we have the ability to, those that do not donate Do not have the right to bemoan fact that we have not reached that level that we have the virus to achieve
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