we finished right in the middle of the pack last year...but also gave Mich and OSU a couple of their toughest games all year. And since the OP was clear we aren't there yet but could it be possible over the next few years- it isn't that silly to discuss. Even if your opinion is that we are not even close, that is part of the discussion. No one is telling you not to participate in the thread because you have a different opinion
Saying a discussion is silly is not the same as saying "don't discuss it"
Ah sorry. I’ll backtrack and take a look.
Why would they think it’s wasted money? He’s taken the program from 3 wins in year 1 to 7 Wins in year 5, during his 2nd tenure here.
Will say it again here… 9-3 plus bowl win . 10-3 though many will still sell this team short. If you listen to the Reem n Beem podcast there is a hint of cockiness. Something Rutgers has lacked . Athan at the end says it all.Why not Rutgers?
Football is a very physical game and it’s very hard to play physically for 13 games. We didn’t have enough talent, depth, or strength and conditioning. Playing Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Penn State took a lot out of us, and we ran out of gas in November. It’s as simple as that.
You mean the game which was 6-0 into the 4th quarter… yes , Iowa scored 16 pts In that 4th . We are not the same team offensively this season. We are on paper better still on D. Why conjecture at this point it is arbitrary and we will need to show that we deserve our pre season semi hype.
but no Fieldhouse or a coach who game plans to throw on 3rd and 7 or score 3 tds.
6-6 after having not won 6 games in 9 years is an amazing accomplishment. 2022 was a point of inflection and the program is on an upward trajectory, with a chance to win 8-12 games this year. Last year we play called according to our personnel and what we did best. This year we will be mostly throwing on 3rd and 7.
I get ya- my point was that OP didn’t say we were but can we be on our way. 2 different things. We are not in the top half right now- maybe close.
I agree. We should be talking about something much more serious, more meaningful. Like… hookers and blow, for instance. 😁
In fairness, RutgersAl said 8 to 12 wins and Phil Steele has us at 8 wins this year. The low end of Al’s range is the baseline expectation by a respected analyst and there could be upside (or downside) from that starting point.
Cmon Bob. You can do better than that. Iowa couldn’t throw the ball. They couldn’t throw.
But it was not a blowout . Cmon Randal you can do much better. Iowa and Rutgers were basically even up.We all are aware we had no offense and neither did they.
I disagree with your contention that wasn’t a blowout. We never came close to scoring. And again, this was the revenge game. It was an extremely poor effort in a big spot, and Iowa grinded us into dust like they ALWAYS do (we are 0-4 against them let me remind ya, having been outscored 17 to 93)
You’re too logical for these parts. Love our class so far and pretty amazing coming off only a decent year. But a long way to go to the top and how can u say too 15 classes will be the norm when we probably won’t finished top 20/25 this year.
You can disagree but it was not a blowout by any stretch. As bad as the O was the game was 6-0 in the 4th away at Iowa. Use your head.
I sort of agree with you on this- even at 6-0 it never felt like we had a chance. Their D was much better than expected, it was like saying losing 2-0 in a baseball game where the other pitcher threw a perfect game, was close.
Then you need to be more aware of what you are actually seeing. What is your definition of an actual blowout game? If you said our O sucks the. You would be accurate.
I for one, didn’t know that you know more about roster acquisition and recruiting than Pike. Steve needs your genius. You should call him ASAP.
Hell that’s even more inaccurate. Offensively we were terrible. But the game was not not a blowout or were we obliterated.
What were you expecting Randall? The baseline expectation was 6 Wins. We won 6 Games, and had a winning season for the first time in 9 years.
Baseline expectations was lower than 6 wins- last year was a huge success. And the way we played in our losses to Mich and OSU made our season that much better. I know you and I are agreeing but I may even be saying you are down playing it, if that is possible. lol
I was expecting something other than listless. You all should go back and watch the game. I think you are misremembering.
In a thread about our potential to be a top big ten team we’re talking about it being a “huge success” winning 6?
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Yup. It’s a really good OP.
Before there was Rutgers 28 Louisville 25,
Come on Zap… not a strong showing but blowout or obliterated ? If we had some semblance of an offense that 6-0 4th doesn’t wind up 22-0. We realize it wasn’t our best but we also played an extremely tough last 5 games schedule. I don’t want to use excuses but also realize it was against a tough opponent in a tough place.
