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Is Simpson Around Next Season?

Never overreact is always the lesson for some to embrace.


Great floor game last night. The only continued weakness in Simpson’s game is his inability to make shots. He was only 3-13 from the field last night which is a major factor in RU’s bad team FG%. His inability to finish at the rim and make wide open 3s hurts. He is shooting only 32% from the floor for the year which is downright bad. If his shot starts to fall he will really be a weapon.
 
Never overreact is always the lesson for some to embrace.


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Are you giving yourself this advice??

He is still very inconsistent

Listen, I am not rooting for him to leave or fail. But we have a potential Final 4 team next year. Good chance some quality veteran guards enter the portal looking for a chance to win

Still not nearly convinced he is on the team next year
 
Great floor game last night. The only continued weakness in Simpson’s game is his inability to make shots. He was only 3-13 from the field last night which is a major factor in RU’s bad team FG%. His inability to finish at the rim and make wide open 3s hurts. He is shooting only 32% from the floor for the year which is downright bad. If his shot starts to fall he will really be a weapon.
Shooting and vision
 
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LOL

Are you giving yourself this advice??

He is still very inconsistent

Listen, I am not rooting for him to leave or fail. But we have a potential Final 4 team next year. Good chance some quality veteran guards enter the portal looking for a chance to win

Still not nearly convinced he is on the team next year
Final 4 ? just about every year Duke and Kentucky bring in a few Top 10 players and not get to the Final 4....but, Rutgers gets there with 2 top players and role players. Their entire roster every year is filled with 10+ Four and Five players.

Any veteran guard coming into a program wants NIL. Being a backup guard is not their goal.

You roll next year with Simpson, Davis, Harper and Williams at guard.
 
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Simpson played a good game against Nebraska for his skill set. He played under control, didn't force shots and made good decisions getting teammates involved. This was good, I guess when he doesn't press and try to be a go to scorer he can give you a good game. Shooting will improve with less wild shots. Keep it up..
 
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Simpson played a good game against Nebraska for his skill set. He played under control, didn't force shots and made good decisions getting teammates involved. This was good, I guess when he doesn't press and try to be a go to scorer he can give you a good game. Shooting will improve with less wild shots. Keep it up..
Simpson had the same wild shots. We just won.
 
I thought you liked Defense? The kid outplayed Tominaga who had zero assists, one rebounds but 3 flops in which he got only one call. Great D by Derek to go along with 8 rebounds and 8 assists plus clutch foul shooting. He actually gets to the line by getting downhill.

As for vision, he made 2 great passes to Cliff for dunks. Wondering what game you watched.
 
I thought you liked Defense? The kid outplayed Tominaga who had zero assists, one rebounds but 3 flops in which he got only one call. Great D by Derek to go along with 8 rebounds and 8 assists plus clutch foul shooting. He actually gets to the line by getting downhill.

As for vision, he made 2 great passes to Cliff for dunks. Wondering what game you watched.
No he made some great plays. And he's the only player I trust to make free throws. Maybe Hyatt as well. But while his shot selection was better this game
He still had some misses that left you scratching your head. But I'll say someone has to shoot and Simpson is the one player beside Hyatt that doesn't shu away from shots if he's been missing. Mag is developing some of that short term memory loss as well. But hopefully Simpson continues on this trajectory. He's having a good season.
 
Simpson will be a great compliment to Dylan and Ace.

He’s better with the ball out of his hands as as a slasher.

He’s gonna have plenty of opportunity in this role and I see his game elevating to another level with talents of Dylan and Ace and also the attention they are gonna garner from opposing teams.
 
I thought you liked Defense? The kid outplayed Tominaga who had zero assists, one rebounds but 3 flops in which he got only one call. Great D by Derek to go along with 8 rebounds and 8 assists plus clutch foul shooting. He actually gets to the line by getting downhill.

As for vision, he made 2 great passes to Cliff for dunks. Wondering what game you watched.

For some people - their opinion of how a player performed is based solely of the number of dunks and 3s they made
 
Simpson had a good all around game. However, he still needs to shoot better. It’s not just from 3. He needs to shoot better with regard to the midrange range game and layups.

He will have competition next year and perhaps this year with JW.
 
Watching Simpson live and up close gives one a better perspective on his abilities.
He’s by far the quickest up the court and has the highest upside.
He’s fearless, unafraid and plays strong defense.
If he ever made shots he’d be an B1G all-star.
Money at the foul line.
 
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Are you giving yourself this advice??

He is still very inconsistent

Listen, I am not rooting for him to leave or fail. But we have a potential Final 4 team next year. Good chance some quality veteran guards enter the portal looking for a chance to win

Still not nearly convinced he is on the team next year
Final 4 team?
Laughing Out Loud Lol GIF by Minions

You really should refrain from that type of talk.
 
I don’t understand why people find this so crazy. There’s going to be 2 NBA players on the court next year. Anything is possible.
Correct, anything is possible, just like RU not qualifying for the tournament is a possibility. But most of us don't go to the fringe and make it the expectation for the season.

Michigan, Alabama and Arkansas all had 2 1st round picks on their teams and none made the final four last year.

A lot of it is going to come down to roster construction. And we need to be real, the bench has not had the quality depth you need to make a good run in something like the NCAAs.
 
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I thought you liked Defense? The kid outplayed Tominaga who had zero assists, one rebounds but 3 flops in which he got only one call. Great D by Derek to go along with 8 rebounds and 8 assists plus clutch foul shooting. He actually gets to the line by getting downhill.

As for vision, he made 2 great passes to Cliff for dunks. Wondering what game you watched.
I think i have made it very clear he played excellent defense and his help on the glass is huge. I love evertthing bout what he did on the “boring” side of the court.

He had 8 assists so 8 of his passes led to baskets. What Simpson needs to master if he is going to be a successful point guard is the ability to be in all wheel drive when penetrating. If there are passing lanes make the pass and if there is an opening go to the rim.

Making a good pass to a player while dribbling (not penetrating) is great, but is part of the position and is a bare minimum of what needs to be done. What he has done very little of his be in AWD and penetrate and actually have his head up and make a pass while penetrating. When he goes hard to the basket it almost alawys is a shot.

He did have one play late in the game that made me very excited. He drove baseline and did find I think Cliff for a dunk. That might be the 1st time all year where he actually passed off of a hard drive to the hoop. He was on baseline so maybe he wasnt in 100% attack mode.
 
I don’t understand why people find this so crazy. There’s going to be 2 NBA players on the court next year. Anything is possible.

Anything is possible and having those 2 and the other recruits certainly makes it possible

But as others have said, programs like Duke Kentucky and Kansas have classes like this every year and they commonly don’t make the final 4

Imho kinda silly to discuss it
 
Watching Simpson live and up close gives one a better perspective on his abilities.
He’s by far the quickest up the court and has the highest upside.
He’s fearless, unafraid and plays strong defense.
If he ever made shots he’d be an B1G all-star.
Money at the foul line.

I agree. The other night he was all-Big10 level in all respects EXCEPT his shooting % (which is really important to say the least)

If he could somehow manage to up his % a lot he really could be a star

Imho he would be foolish to leave with this coming in. Having ace and Dylan will open up the offense and give him more open opportunities to score (same with Gavin )
 
I know it's an exaggeration but all the praise being caveated with "except for the 3-13 shooting" for every good Simpson game is big Mrs. Lincoln vibes.

"Other than that, the play was great"
 
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LOL

Are you giving yourself this advice??

He is still very inconsistent

Listen, I am not rooting for him to leave or fail. But we have a potential Final 4 team next year. Good chance some quality veteran guards enter the portal looking for a chance to win

Still not nearly convinced he is on the team next year
He'll at least be the sixth man with Dylan in the back court, and start with JW the following year at this point. And remember how his father talked about loyalty when asked why Derek didn't play for one of the north jersey privates. I would doubt he leaves. I also think Pike gives him a few bucks.
 
I hate when we under sell this kid 20 games into his sophomore year - compared to Baker's senior year:

Rebounds:
Baker - 2.1
Simpson - 3.3

Foul Shooting
Baker - .741
Simpson - .852

3 Point Percentage
Baker - .331
Simpson - .317

And Baker averaged about 3 ppg more, but Simpson is a better on ball defender. Would we be asking if Baker would transfer with Dylan coming in?

I just went back a little further
Junior year Baker shot .303 from 3, sophomore year .282 from 3, and we continue to crap on Simpson's 3 point shooting numbers as a sophomore?
 
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This is a bizarre thread in discussion about Simpson....

First Simpson isn't good enough because he's too small to rebound.....

Then is doesn't pass the ball as well as a 4th or 5th year senior that isn't here.....

Then it's people freaking out about shooting percentages and not turnovers.....

So the player who apparently isn't good enough, finds 8 assists AND 8 rebounds, and has the audacity to only play excellent on ball defense and hold Nebraska's best player to 16 points.....but he only shot 3 for 13......

If he shot 6-13 & never impacts the game by getting to the FT line he would probably have the same stat line. Here's the reality check for those with higher standards.

3-13....with 6-7 from the FT line & 8 rebounds, 8 assists and solid to excellent defense on the ball........"he's still not a good player"....

4-13.... with those same stats,."he's hopefully going to take the step forward next year".

5-13......he's the player of the game.....!!

6-13......he's 1st team all B1G......

I'm saying that if Simpson hits one driving layup and one other midrange jumper, his stat line goes from 14 PTS, 8 Boards, 8 assists and 1 TO in 36 minutes, mixed with excellent defense...all the way to 18 PTS, 8 & 8 with one turnover.......that's a flash of progress....it's obviously not consistent, but the high 4* and 5* kids, have that stat line 2 out of every 3 games, vs 1 out of every 4 games.

We have a very good Ohio State game for Simpson and another one vs Nebraska so far this month....Iowa wasn't good and Michigan State was not great.

The goal is for Simpson to get to a point where he has a bad game once out of every 3, instead of 2 out of every 3 games, the rest of this year.

Please keep in mind, this is the same Nebraska team or a better version of Nebraska this year and we lost by 10+ last year......with a lot of complaints about defense, Nebraska got to 82 in 40 minutes last year and didn't get to 70 in regulation this year.

I'd like to think that if RU hits 70% of its FTs and Simpson makes 1 more shot, RU probably wins by 10 in regulation.

I'm fairly comfortable RU is further ahead in flipping its roster over, since we've gotten very little from Cliff (outside of the Nebraska game) and not much production from Gavin (entered Nebraska on a 1 of 19 shooting drought from 3).

Maybe some different perspective is needed.....or maybe fans still don't see progress from a kinda 1st time, full time starter, in a pretty good Power 5 conference.
 
LOL

Are you giving yourself this advice??

He is still very inconsistent

Listen, I am not rooting for him to leave or fail. But we have a potential Final 4 team next year. Good chance some quality veteran guards enter the portal looking for a chance to win

Still not nearly convinced he is on the team next year

Exactly..the sample size of good games still small and shooting percentage continues to be awful

Lets see how improvement progresses
 
This is a bizarre thread in discussion about Simpson....

First Simpson isn't good enough because he's too small to rebound.....

Then is doesn't pass the ball as well as a 4th or 5th year senior that isn't here.....

Then it's people freaking out about shooting percentages and not turnovers.....

So the player who apparently isn't good enough, finds 8 assists AND 8 rebounds, and has the audacity to only play excellent on ball defense and hold Nebraska's best player to 16 points.....but he only shot 3 for 13......

If he shot 6-13 & never impacts the game by getting to the FT line he would probably have the same stat line. Here's the reality check for those with higher standards.

3-13....with 6-7 from the FT line & 8 rebounds, 8 assists and solid to excellent defense on the ball........"he's still not a good player"....

4-13.... with those same stats,."he's hopefully going to take the step forward next year".

5-13......he's the player of the game.....!!

6-13......he's 1st team all B1G......

I'm saying that if Simpson hits one driving layup and one other midrange jumper, his stat line goes from 14 PTS, 8 Boards, 8 assists and 1 TO in 36 minutes, mixed with excellent defense...all the way to 18 PTS, 8 & 8 with one turnover.......that's a flash of progress....it's obviously not consistent, but the high 4* and 5* kids, have that stat line 2 out of every 3 games, vs 1 out of every 4 games.

We have a very good Ohio State game for Simpson and another one vs Nebraska so far this month....Iowa wasn't good and Michigan State was not great.

The goal is for Simpson to get to a point where he has a bad game once out of every 3, instead of 2 out of every 3 games, the rest of this year.

Please keep in mind, this is the same Nebraska team or a better version of Nebraska this year and we lost by 10+ last year......with a lot of complaints about defense, Nebraska got to 82 in 40 minutes last year and didn't get to 70 in regulation this year.

I'd like to think that if RU hits 70% of its FTs and Simpson makes 1 more shot, RU probably wins by 10 in regulation.

I'm fairly comfortable RU is further ahead in flipping its roster over, since we've gotten very little from Cliff (outside of the Nebraska game) and not much production from Gavin (entered Nebraska on a 1 of 19 shooting drought from 3).

Maybe some different perspective is needed.....or maybe fans still don't see progress from a kinda 1st time, full time starter, in a pretty good Power 5 conference.

Mag didnt play that game

Rutgers was a made shot from losing this game so the talk about winning by 10 easily is odd
 
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Great floor game last night. The only continued weakness in Simpson’s game is his inability to make shots. He was only 3-13 from the field last night which is a major factor in RU’s bad team FG%. His inability to finish at the rim and make wide open 3s hurts. He is shooting only 32% from the floor for the year which is downright bad. If his shot starts to fall he will really be a weapon.
Shot don't 'just start to fall'. Either you can shoot or you can't. He's hit a few in big moments but we've seen enough overall to see he's just a poor shooter. Same as Williams, They have different abilities. He is what he is.

His game is driving to the rim....imagine what his shooting % would be if excluding layups ? 10% ?
 
Simpson’s elevation on his jumpers is outstanding.
Combined with his quickness, he can create a clean look for himself almost anytime.

The double-edged sword with him is that he misses shots on drives toward the rim, but if he gets fouled doing it, then he’s money at the line.

To me this means he’s just a few small tweaks from taking a big stride forward offensively. Those tweaks have to do with decision-making — whether to pass, pull up, or draw the foul on those drives. Once he figures that out, his game and our outcomes will improve significantly.

For now you take the whole player. The defense, the hustle, his willingness to take the shot, are all important parts to who he is as a player.
 
Shot don't 'just start to fall'. Either you can shoot or you can't. He's hit a few in big moments but we've seen enough overall to see he's just a poor shooter. Same as Williams, They have different abilities. He is what he is.

His game is driving to the rim....imagine what his shooting % would be if excluding layups ? 10% ?
I disagree. Simpson could shoot in high school. He had multiple games where he made more than 5 threes including 6 threes v. Camden Catholic. So who’s to say he can’t make an adjustment to shoot better in college? Griffiths was billed as the best pure shooter in the 2023 recruiting class nationally and he’s only shooting a dismal 26% from three. I doubt he will shoot that poorly his entire college careeer. Player adjust to the college game. Sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes you slump - for long stretches. Simpson’s FG% was 5 points higher last year. Even if he gets to that level it will help RU win games.
 
His driving and jump shots have been consistently bad. We saw a game where he did all the non-sexy stuff. Without him doing that stuff, I don't see how he plays next year.

His upside is high but the staff isn't helping him imo. Crazy drives and inefficient shots are a staple under Pike. Better coaching and we have a valuable player who helps next year.

I don't think the staff could get more out of Noah or Austin. Austin did all the right things but missed a bunny or 2 and was atrocious from the foul line. They are limited in their talent.
 
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I disagree. Simpson could shoot in high school. He had multiple games where he made more than 5 threes including 6 threes v. Camden Catholic. So who’s to say he can’t make an adjustment to shoot better in college? Griffiths was billed as the best pure shooter in the 2023 recruiting class nationally and he’s only shooting a dismal 26% from three. I doubt he will shoot that poorly his entire college careeer. Player adjust to the college game. Sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes you slump - for long stretches. Simpson’s FG% was 5 points higher last year. Even if he gets to that level it will help RU win games.
And I can shoot a high percentage on my driveway. After a year and a half it’s clear he’s a poor shooter. Lots of pros are poor shooters too. They contribute in other ways. He can’t do it at this level. So, play someone else who can or restrict the shots he takes have him be our defensive stopper on opposing backcourt players.
 
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