Hey, how’s Rutgers’ “best men’s coach” doing with the baseball team these days? Off to a hot start?
Whatever it is we do, the opposing team is on it like stink on shit.
There’s a hell of a lot more going on than just missing shots.
We are incredibly defended 95% of the time and we have no where to pass the ball.
I’ve never seen an offense like it
There’s a hell of a lot more going on than just missing shots.
We are incredibly defended 95% of the time and we have no where to pass the ball.
I’ve never seen an offense like it
No. Why have a coach at all ? They don’t score points. Well conceived offense generates good shots. Most of our shots are last second prayers.
This is how Pike shortens the game intentionally to compensate for not having talented offensive players.
Of course we run offense. The problem is the personnel. Pikiell made a bet he could go all in on defense and succeed and until Mag got hurt he was right.
Caleb is a great defensive player, Paul is scrappy, Cliff gets garbage points and dunks, Spencer is hot and cold, Oskar and Hyatt are a lot more cold than hot, Simpson is young, etc. Barely any real offensive talent on the roster.
I think those players you just named could run a motion offense that doesn’t look stuck in the mud throwing prayers half the time
Well don’t you know he’s the CEO of the program? In Business You Must Demand Excellence (TM).
If they could, they would be. As someone mentioned upthread, he had decent offenses at Stony Brook. He’s always been more of a defensive coach but he’s not completely incompetent at coaching an offense.
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Watch his games at SB. Offensive output wasnt because they ran great actions in the half court. Half court offense has never really been his thing
it’s because we don’t run repeatable offense or counter actions when teams take away our first option . First options are easily scouted and schemed for but what do you do after they take this away. We have no counters and become stagnant and hold the ball. Then it results in one on one plays and we don’t have those players right now as we did in past years. Not having multiple set plays to get Cam open or him being a screener is a sin. If they are going to not leave our best shooter you have to use this to your advantage and use him as a screener to free up others , especially going to the basket. Personnel wise it’s easy to figure out why we can’t score
1. we don’t have a guy yon can throw it into to make a post move and or make a solid pass when he’s doubled .Cliff is still a work in progress in the post and is not a good passer out of the post. Watch when we double Hunter of thursday and watch the difference in his decisions and executions .
2. besides cam we have no reliable shooters the d has to respect which clogs driving lanes
3) we don’t have anyone minus derek that can get to the rim and beat his defender either creating a shot for himself or someone else
4) we don’t have a big who can pass or dribble and initiate offense from the top of the key. Even TJD who’s not a shooter can initiate offense from this spot and flow into dribble handoffs and be a passer while the wings move and cut. Watch Hunter when we play them on Thursday. Having a skilled big man that can handle and pass makes a big difference.
Combine all of these things together and it’s a miracle we score at all.
then he needs to hire someone who can do this or he or the staff needs to change their philosophy
I can’t believe people on this board still think the main problem is that our players don’t make shots. Are we a good shooting team…no. We’ve never been under Pike. But this stretch of games we are out there on the court and look like we have never touched a basketball before. We don’t move off the ball, we aren’t deliberate with the ball, and look generally confused. And every time we have a half court set it turns into a shot clock violation or turnover. Every other Big Ten team gets more open looks than us. We talk about players not making shots when nearly every shot they take is a tough contested shot.
I do know... And Owens is the CEO just like Pike, and the buck stops with both of them. The baseball season has a long way to go and he's recruited really good players, unlike Pike.
So let's see how this plays out, and again are you deriving pleasure from the baseball team getting off to a horrendous start
I just need everyone here to tell me they understand that spending that more time installing and practicing offensive sets will result in a much worse defense. You don't think Iowa fans are posting "McCaffrey doesn't run any defense?" No shit, he recruits highly skilled offensive players and then puts them in a system designed to maximize their offensive potential. Iowa has different defenses (they can zone, press, etc) but the personnel is not equipped to shut teams down. Pikiell does the same thing, just the mirror image.
You’ve been watching a lot of films of his games at Stony Brook? Lol
How was he generating points then and why wouldn’t it work in the Big Ten?
We don’t make a lot of our shots because we are incredibly defended.
That’s if we don’t turn it over
Pike runs an offense that gives no one good looks
Because he's recruited the same level of talent at both places and unfortunately Rutgers is in the B1G
As a guy who literally never comes here except after the worst losses (your last post on the basketball board was the day after the Nebraska loss, what a strange coincidence) this line of attack is not really promising for you.
Bro (oops typo.. lol) you need to read the thread. You’re basically agreeing with my side.
But what I’m saying is it isn’t a coincidence that we’re always incredibly defended. And teams that are usually poor on defense like Michigan and Iowa have good defensive games against us. It isn’t as much them playing good defenses as it is us not having any offensive intelligence.
Steve Bardo made the point tonight that he'd like to see RU more often get out in transition and try to get some easy baskets. But they insist on trying to be a half court team with players that can't shoot.
I mean, we have tried this before and it doesn’t really go well either (and also seems to hurt our defense)
He recruited low major talent but made 3 straight tourneys? He must be Brad Stevens with his X’s and O’s then.
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Nah but when we hired him i did watch his 2016 conference championship game. But again, most of this was told to me from one of the top guys in the aau circuit in nj. Pike doesnt shy away from it. He recruits to it telling kids he wants to get out and run and turn defense into offense
At least it would be watchable and add some juice to the crowd with exciting plays.
There was no reason for him to run any offense with Jameel Warney on the roster. If I put you on a 5th grade roster and the coach just says "hey, throw it to the 25 year old every play" I'm not going to attack that coach for not running an offense.
I tend to agree except we aren't good in transition either
This.. devoid of offensive talent this year. Super easy to defend when you only have one guy who can break down a defense, you have a gifted physical center who struggles with the nuances, and the team can't shoot consistently
You were ready to blow Pike earlier this year and you apologized for being an asshole last year. Wow what happened
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I do expect future Rutgers teams to be much much better in transition
Simpson Davis Warren Dylan can all push the ball
Simpson Davis Warren Dylan can all push the ball
