Just go away already. You were awfully quiet when we were winning, wonder why?
Kyk knows nothing about basketball. Playing against high schoolers at the Y can only teach you so much
Also a real estate agent I think. Can never take those people seriously.
Maybe he gets 3% for posting about Pitino if we hire him
Fonseca ran the on/off numbers when he got hurt and the difference was clear.
It’s not about Mag. If it’s Cliff/Spencer who’s out of the season, the team would be bad as well. This team simply lacks depth.
I mean to be fair he's recruited somewhat limited players. Low major talent is too harsh but they have generally been mediocre to bad offensive players at the power conference level but had the defensive skills and want-to necessary to be molded into elite defensive units.
And this strategy has, more the most part, worked.
No shit but that has nothing to do with what you run when you get into the half court.
That our offensive struggles are primarily about talent? Yes. That our coaching staff recruited the talent? Obviously yes.
Where we seem to drift apart is why you come on here and relentlessly bleat these obvious facts after every loss.
We started losing and his boner came back.
i am a high school coach for almost 20 years. Seen a lot of stuff; good and bad so i’d like to think i have some idea of what good and bad offense looks like
Real estate agents are the most useless people on the planet 😂
Oh we’ve definitely haven’t recruited well and I was very vocal about that in December when everyone declared wolf and Simpson stars for playing well vs cupcakes. With that said it takes time to recruit well at Rutgers and my god has that time come. The next few years will be fun.
Makes complete sense. I played basketball for majority of my life so Always respect when I see knowledge out here.
Some people posting here need to retire their keyboards and go back to eating moms meatloaf
In their basements
To be fair to the OP, I think everyone who ever says "We don't run an offense" (in a basketball context) is referring to a repeatable offense. Otherwise, our bread and butter "Come set a pick at the top of the key and then if that doesn't open up a free jumpshot, we'll just run the three man weave at the three-point line until somebody else decides to maybe come set another pick ... or the clock runs out and we throw up a contested three," would technically constitute "an offense."
That's what he's saying, but he's just not correct. It looks like we don't run anything because everything is constantly getting blown up or ending in a missed shot because our already below average offensive talent is playing like garbage. When things are actually clicking it suddenly looks like we run offense.
This team hasn't looked like we run in offense in the last 3 1/2 years. Even when we were winning. Even when we were scoring points. Not once has it looked like we run repeated motion on offense or designed plays. Even when we looked like world beaters, it was because Harper couldn't miss from three or because Jacob Young was pushing the ball up the court (and dragging the rest of the team with him).
Good offensive teams (hell all basketball teams outside of the NBA) have all of the players on the court doing SOMETHING (at all times) when its team crosses half court. Everyone is playing with purpose. Our players are not playing with purpose on offense (and haven't for at least 3 years).
Meh, I don't really agree. They do look like they are playing with purpose on offense at times. When Harper was hot etc it wasn't just that he was hot.. we were also getting him the looks.
But yes all of these problems have existed for most of the past 4 years because we've never been a good offensive team by power conference standards.
Cut this shit will ya...Quiet all season and now you want to pop up...We'll see what kind of offense we have with Cam and Gavin shooting next year and Davis, D warren, Ace and Dylan following...
Thank you...Move on...Non story the OP keeps going back to the well to make himself right cuz that's what he continues to try to do...
There is no substance. It’s factually incorrect, he’s demonstrated low to no basketball IQ through his bad takes over the years, and he only pops out of the woodwork when things are going poorly so he can get the attention he needs. Just annoying all around.
How is there no substance? Attacking the poster instead of the post is a tried and true deflection tactic.
I personally would like to know who/what to blame for this collapse this season. And if it’s because one guy got hurt than that’s a worrisome problem that the program in year seven of a coach can’t survive one guy getting hurt.
But to me the talent was clearly there in the beginning of the season. We took down the #1 team in the nation and had quality wins. Mag gets hurt and we have had 2 wins since he went down including the PSU miracle. Now Mag is a good player who was coming on. To me that was about lack of depth, injuries to Mag, Caleb Paul, etc……
My bigger issue is lack of effort/court awareness that again has happened since Mag got hurt. How many times did we have the ball stripped from behind us? How many times were the players out of position defensively? How many times did we have the rebound only to have it ripped out of our hands?
No question losing Mag was huge on many levels. It really exposed our lack of B1G level depth, which is 100% on Pike and his past recruiting. However, let’s not forget that two weeks prior to Mag’a injury, many on here were harping that Hyatt should be starting over him. Mag was not our savior but his injury exposed how fragile this team really is. An injury to a solid, but my no means spectacular player should never have spiraled the team the way it has. We’ve had three weeks since then and instead of adjusting, we just keep getting worse. That’s on Pike too. Mulcahy is getting worse also and the answer is to just keep playing him and watch him get even worse. He desperately needs to sit until he can get his head on straight. Simpson certainly isn’t the answer but it’s what we have right now.
The offense is run with the assumption that players can create and make shots off the dribble.Simpson is the only player that comes close to having that skillset.The Rutgers roster is composed of players that are stationary shooters that need open shots to be effective.As such there must be passing,dribbling and player movement to create the open shots.What fans see is players wasting time dribbling the ball for 5-10 seconds which causes hurried shots and shot clock violations and even worse unforced turnovers.
The failure to effectively utilize Spencer shooting ability has realy impacted the offense.In the Minnesota game Spencer scored fourteen points in the first half making 6/7 shots.In the second half he hardly took any shots except for foul shots at the end of the game.In the Northwestern game he only scored nine points.and took less than ten shots.Spencer rarely takes a shot in the first minutes of games.The only offensive play is to constantly pass the ball to Cliff and hope he can make a dunk.
The failure to effectively utilize Spencer shooting ability has realy impacted the offense.In the Minnesota game Spencer scored fourteen points in the first half making 6/7 shots.In the second half he hardly took any shots except for foul shots at the end of the game.In the Northwestern game he only scored nine points.and took less than ten shots.Spencer rarely takes a shot in the first minutes of games.The only offensive play is to constantly pass the ball to Cliff and hope he can make a dunk.
Super easy to defend yes, not devoid of offensive talent.
We do nothing to get Cam open, absolutely nothing.
If we’re athletic enough to play defense, we’re athletic enough to run a coherent offense
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There’s no substance because what he’s saying is factually incorrect. We do run an offense. If he were to say he’s unhappy with the offense we run, that would have more substance. As it stands, he’s making an argument based on a legitimately false premise, 2 months after he defended Pikiell, 6 months after he attacked Pikiell.
The roster construction is a separate argument that would also have more substance, but again, is being addressed. We went 2-6 after losing our most efficient scorer and probably our second most efficient defender. The roster currently has a lot of role players, and losing a well rounded player severely limited everything. Fortunately, we have several four and five stars coming in.
I don’t mind pikes overall philosophy and think with better players it can work. Yes I 100% believe he’s not a good offensive coach.
But when you don’t have guys like RHJ and JY getting efficient looks and moving defenses with their offensive ability you clearly can’t walk into a season with the same strategy as years past.
But when you don’t have guys like RHJ and JY getting efficient looks and moving defenses with their offensive ability you clearly can’t walk into a season with the same strategy as years past.
The talent was there because Mag was there. With Mag there if bad Hyatt showed up Pike could leave him on the bench and also the other way around. With Mag out Hyatt has to play and if he needs to be benched the players behind him stink. Losing Mag exposed our lack of depth after 2 bad recruiting years.
The reason for argument here is that we DO run an offense. We are just not executing properly. With the ball in Caleb or Mulcahy's hands we dribble way too much instead of moving the ball which ALLOWS the defense to recover so much quicker. That is why players like Spencer are never open. We rely so much on the pick n roll which works well if they execute around the 3pt line but there is a major difference these days when PM is running it versus SImpson. Simpson is looking to go to the basket or create an open shot. PM is not. plain and simple it is much easier to double Cliff off that and since they are clogging the lane anyway no reason for a defender to come off their man(Spencer) for help.
This is not rocket science by any means but certain PLAYERS are not helping us in execution.
Go back and watch the PSU game and you will see much more effectiveness in our offense because we pushed it in half court, moving the ball, and being aggressive especially going TOWARDS the basket.
If there is one thing Pike should try and correct is just making the offense more up tempo and one that should be told to attack the rim as if they are in transition. If I see CM/PM dribbling at the top of the key I know it is a wasted possession. If I see CM/AH shoot a 15ft jumper early in the shot clock which is not a great shot selection I know from that point on our offense will stall. This is first on coaching(not for offensive sets) and second on player execution/mentality.
If PM, will not look to score or create on offense then he needs to be pulled--plain and simple
This is not rocket science by any means but certain PLAYERS are not helping us in execution.
Go back and watch the PSU game and you will see much more effectiveness in our offense because we pushed it in half court, moving the ball, and being aggressive especially going TOWARDS the basket.
If there is one thing Pike should try and correct is just making the offense more up tempo and one that should be told to attack the rim as if they are in transition. If I see CM/PM dribbling at the top of the key I know it is a wasted possession. If I see CM/AH shoot a 15ft jumper early in the shot clock which is not a great shot selection I know from that point on our offense will stall. This is first on coaching(not for offensive sets) and second on player execution/mentality.
If PM, will not look to score or create on offense then he needs to be pulled--plain and simple
