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what’s stopping the AD from meeting with #NIL
Groups, business/community leaders, the law that kicks in 2025?!
I’m not missing anything.. With all due respect…Pat meets with boosters all the time.
You are missing the point. OSU's AD never met with their two collectives or led them. They are doing this all on their own.
In fact, he probably doesn't want to meet with them. Just let them operate.
We don't have the boosters. It's really that simple. You are acting as if there is some untapped money just waiting on the sidelines for Pat to tell them what to do.
Boosters at OSU and others are just doing it. It's got nothing to do with the AD.
How much does Rutgers approximately receive in external direct to AD donation support?
And how much do other BIG schools receive?
Everyone says our alumni giving is terrible.
How terrible?
That’s not my contention one bit stop making assumptions.Your contention is there is a bunch of millionaires and billionaire boosters wanting to buy players, they are just waiting for Pat's lead. It's ridiculous honestly.
Schools cannot enter into NIL deals with athletes or arrange for outsiders to arrange NIL deals with athletes. That's clear. But what a school can do (at least for the moment) is to call together its big donors and say, "Have you heard of this thing called NIL? Here's how it works . . . nudge nudge wink wink say no more!" (to quote the Monty Python skit) I would be stunned if Hobbs has not done that.
That’s not my contention one bit stop making assumptions.
Gotta start somewhere & that’s by meeting with the #NIL Groups, Business/Community leaders start talking about it. Take advantage of the legislation which doesn’t go into effect till 2025.
I know exactly what’s going on which is why we need to start NOW!As other schools already have $100MM raised and are paying players, all led by boosters.
You realize the schools we are talking about never had to do what you are suggesting right?
I know exactly what’s going on which is why we need to start NOW!
You Pat Hobbs?! LolStart now? USC had $100MM raised in 24 hours the day this was announced.
It either exists or it doesn't. We've never had boosters at this level. We aren't magically going to get them. And it's not because Pat doesn't court them. He does. Donations have gone up significantly under his watch.
This is a game we aren't equipped to play. Again, it's not led by AD's. It's led by boosters, and that's the biggest issue around this.
Forget about Pat. He's not the problem.
I promise you if you donate to one of the collectives or create one yourself and donate $50MM to pay players, Pat will shake your hand and say thank you. Just like OSU's AD did.
It's been done. Can we move on from that false narrative?This is what Ohio State is doing. Sadly, Rutgers doesn’t to be as supportive, but I’m not sure why.
You're experienced enough to know that sports here will never be funded, either by the school or by alums/boosters, on the scale of Ohio State. So we're unlikely ever to be at OSU's level except maybe for a miracle year or two. We have to be content with consistently trying to have a winning record and going to non-major bowls.This is what Ohio State is doing. Sadly, Rutgers doesn’t to be as supportive, but I’m not sure why.
When is Hobbs going to make a public statement similar to Schiano? These back door whispers to some donors aren’t moving the needle.It's been done. Can we move on from that false narrative?
SIAP...but CFB needs a "salary cap" (aka NIL cap) just like other pro sports.Even the OSU AD called him out.
Without support for the NIL from everybody especially at the top, it's over.
Doesn't matter if we win or lose against Neb. Doesn't matter if we beat Indiana.
Best players will be poached, no good recruits will come, no transfer portal players will sign.
The future is bleak and it will be Hobbs' fault.
What’s been done?! What false Narrative 🤔 you & caliknight I believe are saying the BOG is instructing the Athletic Director to adhere to a law that doesn’t kick in till 2025 question is Por Que?!It's been done. Can we move on from that false narrative?
When is Hobbs going to make a public statement similar to Schiano? These back door whispers to some donors aren’t moving the needle.
We’re not looking to reach OSU’s levels at this time but we’re gonna certainly need all those in leadership, alumni, fans, boosters, business/community leaders or anyone else for that matter to come together & figure this #NIL THING OUT ASAP.You're experienced enough to know that sports here will never be funded, either by the school or by alums/boosters, on the scale of Ohio State. So we're unlikely ever to be at OSU's level except maybe for a miracle year or two. We have to be content with consistently trying to have a winning record and going to non-major bowls.
I'm referring to statements to the donors. Statements were made. At least two of the biggest donors and numerous others were in the room. But one guy keeps asking numerous times in this thread.It's been done. Can we move on from that false narrative?
I'm referring to statements to the domors. Statements were made. At least two of the biggest donors and numerous others were in the room. But one guy keeps asking numerous times in this thread.
Donor statements, sorry i didn’t see that, were in what room?! A meeting/Discussion
regarding NIL?! Would you care to elaborate?!
Ok so he still hasn’t done squat except make some comments behind closed doors. Glad we agree.Your quoting went a little bonkers in the previous message. It looks like I'm answering myself.
Suffice to say, statements were made at a non-public event, and I will not share the details. But it was made crystal clear that RU needed a certain amount of NIL money to retain its best players. There was no doubt. I'm not making crap up. Sorry if this goes against some false narrative that people want to use to tear down our AD. It is quite shameful how people with no facts or incorrect facts lob out accusations or misinformation. Not sure what the Round Table thread is all about and what one of the collective people had to say. I tagged him in one of my responses above to see what information was in that thread, but he has not responded here.
My basic problem with this thread, is we still have no concrete statement from anyone IN THIS THREAD about what Hobbs has or has not done to "no support NIL." It is either lacking information, misleading, or at worst, totally false. It is a shame that the thread had been up this long and there are no concrete facts on the assertions made. But it is typical of some of our fans.Thanks
We agree on nothing. Nothing.Ok so he still hasn’t done squat except make some comments behind closed doors. Glad we agree.
That’s not going to cut it. Poor leadership.
Boosters at OSU and others are just doing it. It's got nothing to do with the AD.
Start now? USC had $100MM raised in 24 hours the day this was announced.
Thru thick.And have been doing it since the 20's. That's 1920s.
And had done the inflation adjusted equivalent since they got John Wayne to play.
RU has some dedicated large donors with long histories of support, but not enough. And small donors don't compare to the rest of the B1G, in numbers of gifts. This board's enthusiasm for RU football and sports in general does not reflect the alumni in general. A much larger % of OSU and Michigan alums, people who don't populate message boards, follow and support their teams.
CorrectYour quoting went a little bonkers in the previous message. It looks like I'm answering myself.
Suffice to say, statements were made at a non-public event, and I will not share the details. But it was made crystal clear that RU needed a certain amount of NIL money to retain its best players. There was no doubt. I'm not making crap up. Sorry if this goes against some false narrative that people want to use to tear down our AD. It is quite shameful how people with no facts or incorrect facts lob out accusations or misinformation. Not sure what the Round Table thread is all about and what one of the collective people had to say. I tagged him in one of my responses above to see what information was in that thread, but he has not responded here.