Jacob Young

[BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap]

I was

I was thinking the exact same thing. Not sure if he makes us better or worse. Tonight he made us a lot worse. He didn't see or refused to pass to a wide open McConnell in the corner and instead took it straight into the trees for a turnover.

He just has zero court sense. And that us not something you can learn this late in your career.

This. I had a major issue with this play. Either he doesn't understand the game, he's being greedy, or both. Whatever the case, the coaches have been more than generous with his playing time, and it's time to grab some pine.
Too bad Kiss can't get his act together. There are minutes available

 

[kcg88]

He never gets the ball. A good coach (not saying Pike isn't just yet) gets his players in positions to succeed

Basic, basic stuff appears to not be coached, or it's not getting through. Perimeter players don't take the extra dribble or two to create an angle to pass the ball in.

 

[bethlehemfan]

Kiss is better than young imo

 

[Hamilton's Cannon]

People need to curb their expectations with this team. Goal 1 - make .500, Goal 2 - surpass .500, Goal 3 NIT, Goal 4 NCAA. We are young, not great shooters (streaky). That said we can’t come out of this 2 week run with no wins.

 

[zazoo2002]

People need to curb their expectations with this team. Goal 1 - make .500, Goal 2 - surpass .500, Goal 3 NIT, Goal 4 NCAA. We are young, not great shooters (streaky). That said we can’t come out of this 2 week run with no wins.

All well and good, but without better recruits, consistent player development, and a half court offense...the above ain't happening. I'm still hopeful, but the word "plateau" is increasingly in the back of my mind.

 

[Scangg]

Young always comes in with Mulcahy and it kills Mulcahy bc young dominates the ball and ruins the offense. Would like to see Mulcahy without Young. And much much less Young. He can't shoot at alllll and kills the already non existent offense

 

[satnom]

Young is showing tunnel vision and poor feel for the game. Give him what he earns. Comes in scores and plays defense without bone head plays and/or turnovers give him more time but as soon as he makes a WTF play sit him.

Kid has skills you can’t teach (speed and quickness) that are good but he can’t play selfish ball and get more time than deserved.

GO RU

 

[shields]

He plays like his hair is on fire.

 

[toby83]

Would love to hear what the guys on the team say about him behind closed doors

 

[TDIrish27]

If they're good teammates I bet they have his back.

You have to remember this kid didn't play last year and very little the previous year. .

It can take time to find your groove---- maybe up to midseason---- when you have that little game experience.

I think we all need to be a little patient which is sometimes difficult.

 

[toby83]

Corey Sanders played selfish at times but his offensive game was at another level vs Young. It's insane to play selfish at this level when you can't score.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

With Kiss not dressed for tonight and seemingly out of the mix, Mulcahy isn't ready to guard on defense.

I don't see a solution over 20 B1G games with Young playing reduced minutes, Mathis and McConnell are already starting.

We are going to have to ride out with Young unless you want to play Yeboah up to 28 to 30 minutes and mix and match. The unawareness of time and score with Young is disappointing.

We have to look at the pieces we have and try to move forward in the short term and the long term.

In agreement with NJH here. The lifeguard gives your kid a test before he is allowed to go in the deep end. If you can't swim you can't go in the deep end. Defense is the Rutgers test.

Last night Mulcahy and Carter failed their tests. Myles played 35 minutes when his max really should be 26-28.

Unfortunately Young has to be off the ball. I don't mind him driving with less than 10 seconds left on the shot clock, but right now he can't be the one initiating offense.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Corey Sanders played selfish at times but his offensive game was at another level vs Young. It's insane to play selfish at this level when you can't score.

Corey Sanders won 7 B1G games in 3 years. He leaves and we win 7 games the next year. Corey Sanders was an amazing talent. However he made us a team remarkably easy to defend.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

This. I had a major issue with this play. Either he doesn't understand the game, he's being greedy, or both.

I am fairly confident he didn't see Caleb......not that there is any positive to take from it.

 

[kcg88]

All of Young's turnovers were bad in their own way but the one that stood out to me was when he dribbled through traffic at midcourt and lost it and instead of going to the floor for the ball to grab it he tried to get the dribble back and coughed it up.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Deer in headlights

He needs to slow things down

 

[Unionst]

When you waste time playing 7 bullshit games, a P5 team can expose a player like Mulcahy that isn’t ready yet. He’ll adjust and be fine.

It seemed to be a loud home crowd and I would think that’s the first time he has experienced that. I agree that he will adjust.

 

[Unionst]

Corey Sanders played selfish at times but his offensive game was at another level vs Young. It's insane to play selfish at this level when you can't score.

I think Corey was often the only option so I wouldn’t call his play selfish. And I would like to think Jacob is doing what he thinks is best for the team rather than just looking to add to his scoring line. If that’s the case though he needs better self awareness. He drives and can’t finish; he’s not a shooter. His contribution is going to be limited at best.

 

[kcg88]

Sanders junior year turnover rate: 14.4%

Young junior year turnover rate: 27.9%

 

[Unionst]

Sanders junior year turnover rate: 14.4%

Young junior year turnover rate: 27.9%

How is that calculated?

 

[RUChoppin]

You have to remember this kid didn't play last year and very little the previous year. .

It can take time to find your groove---- maybe up to midseason---- when you have that little game experience.

Young didn't play last year, but he certainly played the prior year. He played in 30 of 34 games for Texas in 2017-18, with an average of 16.5 min/game. He's played in 71 total games, which is 3rd on the team behind Yeboah (103) and Baker (72).

The only game he's played worse than last night was his 3rd game ever vs. Eastern Washington, where he posted 0 pts on 0-4 shooting (all threes), 0 rbs, 1 ast, 2 pf, and 3 tov in 19 min. He needs to figure out how to play within this system, because right now it feels like he's playing on his own team-of-one half the time he's on the court.

 

[RUby RED]

Corey Sanders won 7 B1G games in 3 years. He leaves and we win 7 games the next year. Corey Sanders was an amazing talent. However he made us a team remarkably easy to defend.

Ah, yes. Blame Corey. The best player we’ve had in the last 10 years

 

[kcg88]

How is that calculated?

It's the percent of possessions used by Young that end in a turnover, as opposed a made shot, or a missed shot that the defense rebounds, or him getting fouled.

28% is bad. Sanders' 14.4% is kind of artificially low because Baker had the ball a lot... the top PGs are usually in the 15-19% range, 20-24% would be considered average.

This year:
Cassius Winston 17.1%
Tre Jones 21.8% (was 14.7% last year)
Zavier Simpson 26.1% (was 18.8% last year, also his assist rate is 3rd best in the country which helps offset this high percentage this year)
Nico Mannion 17.7%
Payton Pritchard 19.2%
Carsen Edwards last year as a score-first guard like Young wants to be was 15.5%

 

[jtung230]

You guys are too funny. Young and Mathis are the only guys that can take their guy off dribble. Maybe he can have more control like the other guys by dribble in-place at the top of the key. Plus he can actually stay in front of his man on D.

 

[RUChoppin]

You guys are too funny. Young and Mathis are the only guys that can take their guy off dribble. Maybe he can have more control like the other guys by dribble in-place at the top of the key. Plus he can actually stay in front of his man on D.

Young's best asset is his defense, and he's done well being a pest there. But offensively, he takes his man off the dribble into secondary defenders and then frequently doesn't know what to do next - resulting in misses, blocked shots, and turnovers.

Adjusted for minutes, he's:
3rd in assists (behind Mulcahy and Baker)

But...
1st on the team in turnovers committed (4.9 per 40... next closest is Carter with 3.2)
2nd among guards in fouls committed (behind McConnell)
6th in steals (and only ahead of Mulcahy among guards)
9th on the team in points (ahead of Doucoure and Mulcahy)
9th in FT% (and worst among guards)
10th in rebounds (ahead of Doucoure and Baker)
7th in 3P% (of 7 players who have made 3P baskets, and worst among guards)

Yet he's getting the 4th highest min/game.

 

[RUinFla]

Young just doesn't seem to get it. The offensive flow disappears when he gets in the game. The ball doesn't move well, he's always looking for his shot instead of seeing the floor, he's sloppy with the ball, he drives into trees, he's out of control... he's the sort of guy you want to sub out on offense.

Chop, at least he didn't throw up as many shots per minutes played as he sometimes does. There have been games when he has been second or third on the team in shot attempts. Too bad we can't do a two-platoon system in hoops, because he does play D.

 

[toby83]

Corey Sanders won 7 B1G games in 3 years. He leaves and we win 7 games the next year. Corey Sanders was an amazing talent. However he made us a team remarkably easy to defend.

Not totally fair look who he was playing with. There was even a fat guy on the team.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Ah, yes. Blame Corey. The best player we’ve had in the last 10 years

He won 7 B1G games here in 3 years. He shot low percentages from the floor and didn't pass to teammates.

What player on this roster has talent that even approached Freeman?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

http://barttorvik.com/team.php?year=2017&team=Rutgers

Sanders
Johnson
Williams
Freeman
Gettys
Laurent
Thiam
Omoruyi (before he was good)
Sa

There is way more talent on this team than 2019....not even remotely close.

That team was 3-15 and was rated 221st in offense.

 

[toby83]

What I read combing through Texas boards is EXACTLY what is happening here. "Sat out a year is rusty" does not hold water

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

http://barttorvik.com/team.php?year=2018&team=Rutgers

Sanders
Baker 37.1% from 3
Freeeman
Issa 37.9% from 3
Williams
Omoruyi (started to be good)

 

[jtung230]

Young's best asset is his defense, and he's done well being a pest there. But offensively, he takes his man off the dribble into secondary defenders and then frequently doesn't know what to do next - resulting in misses, blocked shots, and turnovers.

Adjusted for minutes, he's:
3rd in assists (behind Mulcahy and Baker)

But...
1st on the team in turnovers committed (4.9 per 40... next closest is Carter with 3.2)
2nd among guards in fouls committed (behind McConnell)
6th in steals (and only ahead of Mulcahy among guards)
9th on the team in points (ahead of Doucoure and Mulcahy)
9th in FT% (and worst among guards)
10th in rebounds (ahead of Doucoure and Baker)
7th in 3P% (of 7 players who have made 3P baskets, and worst among guards)

Yet he's getting the 4th highest min/game.

You rather have someone who dribbles in place and chuck a 3? Yes, driving the lane will draw a large crowd and makes things difficult. But it also creates offensive rebounding opportunities and drawing fouls. Good things happen when you go towards the basket.

 

[newwavedave1]

Young just doesn't seem to get it. The offensive flow disappears when he gets in the game. The ball doesn't move well, he's always looking for his shot instead of seeing the floor, he's sloppy with the ball, he drives into trees, he's out of control... he's the sort of guy you want to sub out on offense.

That pretty much says it all. More me than we.

 

[RUChoppin]

You rather have someone who dribbles in place and chuck a 3? Yes, driving the lane will draw a large crowd and makes things difficult. But it also creates offensive rebounding opportunities and drawing fouls. Good things happen when you go towards the basket.

It creates offensive rebounding when you don't turn the ball over or get blocked, and drawing fouls is great while shooting .579 from the line isn't. Good things do happen when you go toward the basket - but better things seem to happen when Mathis and Harper do it. Minutes should be closer to 27/15 between Mathis/Young than 21/21 given what we've seen so far.

 

[jerzeyguy]

Sad part about J young - is that we can really use an upperclassman guard who can make plays. I love Mathis & McConnell - but their still true sophs. To much is needed from them every night bc somebody like J young can't perform

 

[jtung230]

It creates offensive rebounding when you don't turn the ball over or get blocked, and drawing fouls is great while shooting .579 from the line isn't. Good things do happen when you go toward the basket - but better things seem to happen when Mathis and Harper do it. Minutes should be closer to 27/15 between Mathis/Young than 21/21 given what we've seen so far.

Harper can't get to the basket and Mathis can't take his guy to the basket (meaning he is quick and athletic but no handle).