JQ to RU?

[Rac'nRoll]

I understand this was covered to some degree in the thread "Penn beats Nova 78-75"
but I'm adding to it.

I'll leave the question of whether or not JQ's instagram account was hacked to the Social Media experts, of which I am not one.

My son is a D-III Freshman player who has played against JQ over the years, and he knows alot of the current HS seniors (including Mulcahy) and current college Freshman very well from the NJ AAU circuit.

One of the Gill St. Bernard's players, who graduated HS last year, has a very good friend at 'Nova, and the word is JQ will be transferring to Rutgers.

Now, please take this for what it's worth, which I understand may be zip/zero/nada

I'm simply passing along what I'm hearing...but I believe the source may have some credibility

 

[kcg88]

I'd be very surprised if we take a sit-out transfer at the guard position. We need wings and bigs.

 

[Rac'nRoll]

I'd be very surprised if we take a sit-out transfer at the guard position. We need wings and bigs.

So you would be surprised if we take a McDonald's All American/NJ Gatorade HS Player-of-the-Year? You're serious?

 

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[BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine]

Take

 

[RU82]

Yes, please

 

[kcg88]

So you would be surprised if we take a McDonald's All American/NJ Gatorade HS Player-of-the-Year? You're serious?

Actually yeah. I think there are some very compelling reasons to think he won't be a super productive player at the high-major level. His time at Villanova has been not just bad but atrocious. And he just turned 20 years old so I think it's legitimate to wonder how much of him in HS was just being older and more physically developed.

I wouldn't think it's the end of the world or anything but there are some reasons the staff would hesitate IMO.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I know nothing about him.

I see he is 6'1''.

Can he shoot? If he can't than you have to question the fact he doesn't fit what it appears Pikiell is trying to do here. Tall guys that can shoot.

Then again looking at Jacob Young's Texas stats getting him doesn't appear to fit.

 

[kcg88]

Just saw Quade Green (from Philadelphia) is considering a midseason transfer from Kentucky. Now there's a guy I'd be interested in. Of course so will every blue-blood school in the country, most likely. In fact seeing Quinerly transfer out and Green transfer in to Villanova would make logical sense.

 

[SHUSource]

Just saw Quade Green (from Philadelphia) is considering a midseason transfer from Kentucky. Now there's a guy I'd be interested in. Of course so will every blue-blood school in the country, most likely. In fact seeing Quinerly transfer out and Green transfer in to Villanova would make logical sense.

If he goes (and there have been rumblings since this time last season, so... ), most accounts have Green headed to Temple.

 

[biazza38]

Wow! Very peculiar. We would need a guard for 2020. However, we would be very thin at forward for 2019 if someone goes down

 

[higgins3]

No thanks. There is a reason he is not playing well, and not playing at Villanova.

This was not hard to spot in HS.

Not too mention, guard is not a need for the upcoming year.

He may be a nice kid. But from a basketball position, no thanks.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

[laughing]

 

[TDIrish27]

No thanks. There is a reason he is not playing well, and not playing at Villanova.

This was not hard to spot in HS.

He may be a nice kid. But from a basketball position, no thanks.

Agreed-----not a fit here.

 

[SHUSource]

If he goes (and there have been rumblings since this time last season, so... ), most accounts have Green headed to Temple.

Actually, check that. Things have changed since I last read anything about this. Temple would be unlikely, but the Pac-12 wouldn't be.

 

[bowlgoal]

I don't know if Pikiell wants to give that scholarship away because we still need help for next year even with the additions of Mulcahy and Jacobs. Wright is a great coach so if this kid isn't playing well in that system; I have my doubts.

 

[ScarletNYC]

No thanks. There is a reason he is not playing well, and not playing at Villanova.

This was not hard to spot in HS.

Not too mention, guard is not a need for the upcoming year.

He may be a nice kid. But from a basketball position, no thanks.

Talk about choosy beggars.

 

[KnightTerrors]

The fact there is a consensus that we should pass on a player of JQs caliber is mind blowing.

Have you ever seen this kid play?!?! He’s a program changer! Im drooling at the idea of him coming here.

 

[TheAtlanticFiles]

No thanks. There is a reason he is not playing well, and not playing at Villanova.

This was not hard to spot in HS.

Not too mention, guard is not a need for the upcoming year.

He may be a nice kid. But from a basketball position, no thanks.

Lol, the fact that you think we, as a program that has finished dead last 4 years in a row should say no thanks to a 5 star recruit with 3 years eligibility remaining because you don't think he is a "good fit" is comical. Please explain why we don't need him? I am intrigued for your response.

 

[Russ Wood]

Actually yeah. I think there are some very compelling reasons to think he won't be a super productive player at the high-major level. His time at Villanova has been not just bad but atrocious. And he just turned 20 years old so I think it's legitimate to wonder how much of him in HS was just being older and more physically developed.

I wouldn't think it's the end of the world or anything but there are some reasons the staff would hesitate IMO.

Many of the top basketball prospects are graduating HS when they are 19 so JQ turning 20 last month not a big deal from a competitive standpoint with other freshmen

 

[Shields2]

Actually, check that. Things have changed since I last read anything about this. Temple would be unlikely, but the Pac-12 wouldn't be.

Heard Washington is the likely destination.

 

[zebnatto]

From what I’ve seen of the kid, he’s a definite take, and from NJ.

But are we giving too much credence to the op which hedges quite a bit.

 

[TDIrish27]

The fact there is a consensus that we should pass on a player of JQs caliber is mind blowing.

Have you ever seen this kid play?!?! He’s a program changer! Im drooling at the idea of him coming here.

About 25 times yes I have-----JQ needs a place where they run up and down the floor and just outscore people.

He isn't a good player in a halfcourt game and he isn't very good defensively.

Very slick in the open floor but that isn't the style here.

Just my opinion.

 

[MadRU]

I’ll defer to coach.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

I don't see this happening for too many reasons that I cannot list here. I think Quinerly will ride out the season at Nova and ultimately decide to buy into what Jay Wright is asking for. I don't believe Quinerly wants to leave, he just sees average guards with limited upside, playing smart team oriented basketball, that aren't going to make any impact on their win-loss record, while Quinerly was probably expected to play 18 to 25 minutes a night.

 

[Fzacsattac]

I understand this was covered to some degree in the thread "Penn beats Nova 78-75"
but I'm adding to it.

I'll leave the question of whether or not JQ's instagram account was hacked to the Social Media experts, of which I am not one.

My son is a D-III Freshman player who has played against JQ over the years, and he knows alot of the current HS seniors (including Mulcahy) and current college Freshman very well from the NJ AAU circuit.

One of the Gill St. Bernard's players, who graduated HS last year, has a very good friend at 'Nova, and the word is JQ will be transferring to Rutgers.

Now, please take this for what it's worth, which I understand may be zip/zero/nada

I'm simply passing along what I'm hearing...but I believe the source may have some credibility

A rumor started by a poster with 28 posts......hmmmmmm

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

I don't buy it

 

[RUEd]

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/baske...d-arizona-commit-fbi-investigation-recruiting
Says he’s played only 70 minutes all season and one minute in the loss v Penn

 

[BKIn118]

Pass...for so, so many reasons!

 

[knightinaz]

Isn't he the kid linked to Book Richardson?

If so, I would think his name will be all over the place, for all the wrong reasons, when the trial starts in the spring

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

http://www2.philly.com/college-spor...ildcats-playing-time-jay-wright-20181212.html

Apologized for post....not sure how much time he eventually earns at Nova after this anyway.

 

[higgins3]

Lol, the fact that you think we, as a program that has finished dead last 4 years in a row should say no thanks to a 5 star recruit with 3 years eligibility remaining because you don't think he is a "good fit" is comical. Please explain why we don't need him? I am intrigued for your response.

Fit is kind of important with choosing a life changing decision. If you are a slow guard, are you going to go to a system that is fast paced? If you are not a willing defender, and are a one sided basketball player, are you going to go a program where kids are known for digging their heels in, and take charges every other play?

The program has a lot of guards. It would send mixed signals to players committed who are far better players, and fit than JQ. No point in risking that.

You will get stars for being able to dribble a basketball very well in HS. isiah Briscoe is an example. JQ is a very good dribbler. Dribbling that much is a waste, and doesn't contribute to winning at the next level. Also, he is not a great defender. Is he a knock down shooter? Is he an IQ player? Can he guard a pick and roll? A growing program needs program kids, and underrated players. 5 stars don't always scream all about team mentality. That is what is needed to get Rutgers forward.

Any more questions?

 

[higgins3]

Talk about choosy beggars.

The fact there is a consensus that we should pass on a player of JQs caliber is mind blowing.

Have you ever seen this kid play?!?! He’s a program changer! Im drooling at the idea of him coming here.

So much of a program changer that he is not playing well, or not finding a fit with one of the most respectful coaches in college basketball. When he talks, all eyes are on him. There are not many players who give the attention Jay Wright gets. He should be an honor to play for. JQ goes and says Villanova was his second choice? You really want a kid on your team who takes that opportunity for granted?

Add that he had legal issues around his recruitment. We have to think big picture. Some recruits do your program well, others can be headaches. Oh yeah, go after him too, and what does that say to Mucahy, who happens to be a far better all around basketball player than JQ?

With a player like Mulcahy, you don't mess around. You see how critical he is to building a winning program. You prioritize because the future of the program sometimes depends on it. You don't send mixed signals.

I will back an NJ kid till the cows come home. As mentioned, I am sure he is a great kid. Just not someone you go after when you have committed pieces that are more important. I do hope JQ finds his place, and does well.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

Methinknot.

 

[biazza38]

So much of a program changer that he is not playing well, or not finding a fit with one of the most respectful coaches in college basketball. When he talks, all eyes are on him. There are not many players who give the attention Jay Wright gets. He should be an honor to play for. JQ goes and says Villanova was his second choice? You really want a kid on your team who takes that opportunity for granted?

Add that he had legal issues around his recruitment. We have to think big picture. Some recruits do your program well, others can be headaches. Oh yeah, go after him too, and what does that say to Mucahy, who happens to be a far better all around basketball player than JQ?

With a player like Mulcahy, you don't mess around. You see how critical he is to building a winning program. You prioritize because the future of the program sometimes depends on it. You don't send mixed signals.

I will back an NJ kid till the cows come home. As mentioned, I am sure he is a great kid. Just not someone you go after when you have committed pieces that are more important. I do hope JQ finds his place, and does well.

This is some great info. Really appreciate the info. At first glance one would think “yes, let’s get this former McDonald’s All American.” But all things considered, it sends very mixed signals going after someone who made a post JQ did on Insta. I have no idea how good he is, but it doesn’t sound like he’s earning his minutes at Nova. I don’t think we’ll go after him if he transfers

 

[Russ Wood]

So much of a program changer that he is not playing well, or not finding a fit with one of the most respectful coaches in college basketball. When he talks, all eyes are on him. There are not many players who give the attention Jay Wright gets. He should be an honor to play for. JQ goes and says Villanova was his second choice? You really want a kid on your team who takes that opportunity for granted?

Add that he had legal issues around his recruitment. We have to think big picture. Some recruits do your program well, others can be headaches. Oh yeah, go after him too, and what does that say to Mucahy, who happens to be a far better all around basketball player than JQ?

With a player like Mulcahy, you don't mess around. You see how critical he is to building a winning program. You prioritize because the future of the program sometimes depends on it. You don't send mixed signals.

I will back an NJ kid till the cows come home. As mentioned, I am sure he is a great kid. Just not someone you go after when you have committed pieces that are more important. I do hope JQ finds his place, and does well.

Villanova was literally his second choice seeing how he originally committed to Arizona.

 

[TheAtlanticFiles]

Fit is kind of important with choosing a life changing decision. If you are a slow guard, are you going to go to a system that is fast paced? If you are not a willing defender, and are a one sided basketball player, are you going to go a program where kids are known for digging their heels in, and take charges every other play?

The program has a lot of guards. It would send mixed signals to players committed who are far better players, and fit than JQ. No point in risking that.

You will get stars for being able to dribble a basketball very well in HS. isiah Briscoe is an example. JQ is a very good dribbler. Dribbling that much is a waste, and doesn't contribute to winning at the next level. Also, he is not a great defender. Is he a knock down shooter? Is he an IQ player? Can he guard a pick and roll? A growing program needs program kids, and underrated players. 5 stars don't always scream all about team mentality. That is what is needed to get Rutgers forward.

Any more questions?

You just sound clueless.

“You get stars for dribbling” if that were the case my buddy would of been a top 10 recruit on the country. And there’s no way you can judge what type of player he is off 9 games in his college career. He is better today than Caleb McConnell will ever be but you’d rather take McConnell. Come on now

 

[Scangg]

So Nova was his second choice and he's not happy about being at #2... where did Rutgers rank on his big board and how thrilled would he be to play here?

 

[KnightTerrors]

So much of a program changer that he is not playing well, or not finding a fit with one of the most respectful coaches in college basketball. When he talks, all eyes are on him. There are not many players who give the attention Jay Wright gets. He should be an honor to play for. JQ goes and says Villanova was his second choice? You really want a kid on your team who takes that opportunity for granted?

Add that he had legal issues around his recruitment. We have to think big picture. Some recruits do your program well, others can be headaches. Oh yeah, go after him too, and what does that say to Mucahy, who happens to be a far better all around basketball player than JQ?

With a player like Mulcahy, you don't mess around. You see how critical he is to building a winning program. You prioritize because the future of the program sometimes depends on it. You don't send mixed signals.

I will back an NJ kid till the cows come home. As mentioned, I am sure he is a great kid. Just not someone you go after when you have committed pieces that are more important. I do hope JQ finds his place, and does well.

So Higgins, here is my issue. You can't have it both ways. In one breath we defend our players for being young and freshman but when it comes to JQ "he's not playing well and not a fit" because he hasn't played well in his first two months?

I almost don't want to continue this thread because I'm sure it'll never happen so we are debating about nothing lol!

BUT, I disagree with the notion it would be a bad message or mixed signal to Mulcahy. Yes they're both PGs but great programs have multiple great players at the same positions and on the floor at the same time. The game has changed so much in that respect. And we certainly have a team talent level where great players would NOT be buried on the bench. I bet it'd be the opposite. I bet Paul would be stoked to have a teammate with that level of talent. He is a facilitator.

I also think my evaluation of JQ is much higher than others on this board, which is fine. I've certainly been dead wrong many times before! @TDIrish27 you could be totally right though from what I've seen I would disagree.

Higgs, Your point about the legal issues I can totally get behind. It you'd stay away because the off the court stuff, I think that's totally fair. I just have trouble with the notion of a clear NBA talent getting passed on in fear of upsetting a recruit or that he's not a fit because he's had a rough start 6 weeks into his freshman season.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

JQ is not a fit for every program...that means RU and probably Villanova as well. Some programs that are building a culture that is team-centric doesn't mean every player fits in.

Fans believe talent means your team is better.....not always the case. Is Quinerly better than McConnell is not debatable....the question is if Quinerly is buying in, wouldn't he be better than the guards Villanova has playing ahead of him?