Judge Orders Sealed PSU Documents Released
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Again, I'm not being put into a box based on what some rape victim was willing to accept not to go to trial. Maybe they didn't want to go through the trauma of a trial. Maybe they had a poor lawyer. Maybe they just don't care about the money. I'm not getting into that and you'd be advised not to either.
Edit: saw your second post rethinking your position. We can leave it there.
"If" Greg knew anything about Sandusky between 1990 and 1995 when Sandusky was his boss and they showered together along with the rest of the coaching staff after every practice ?
In light of the additional information coming out that goes back 20 years before Greg joined the coaching staff, the better question would be how would Greg have not known about Sandusky during the 5 years he worked for him ?
That type of thinking means every Penn St football player during the time Sandusky was a coach should have known he was a child molester.
Maybe even the players and coaches in the Nit FB program when the pervert walked around campus as Penn St's Coach Emeritus.
I'd say coaches would have another level of knowledge being peers and coaching in general being a "boy's club" of sorts. Although I certainly don't think we could rule out some players having knowledge.
We have to remember paterno was practically a god in that region, where psu football is revered above all, so that could lead to everyone believing they needed to toe the line and keep quiet about Sandusky.
The above doesn't mean I agree with those who kept quiet about child rape to preserve football glory, just that I could see it happening with that crowd.
our society has become one big salem, mass.
Everyone is so holy, lets point our long fingers at everyone's actions - but our own.
If only we could know the percentage of people who would act the same way the people at pen state and baylor did, it would ruin everyone's pitch fork parade. Im guessing somewhere around 85-95%
When you're winning and/or making money, and just have something good going on, you will cover things up that get in the way of that. Yes, YOU. When someone tells a young schiano some rumors about sandusky, you bet your ass that the young aspiring coach won't do more than say "wow, thats some crazy shit, Im not touching that topic with a 50 ft pole". If the freekin cops don't want to do their job in Waco and in the middle of cowfuk pennsylvania - guys who get paid to hold the law, you think people who are basically getting paid to be company men are going to blow the thing up? of course not.
Forget pen st, that place sucks so bad its not even worth talking about. Its one of the most unreal places in america, and not in a good way.
Everyone is so holy, lets point our long fingers at everyone's actions - but our own.
If only we could know the percentage of people who would act the same way the people at pen state and baylor did, it would ruin everyone's pitch fork parade. Im guessing somewhere around 85-95%
When you're winning and/or making money, and just have something good going on, you will cover things up that get in the way of that. Yes, YOU. When someone tells a young schiano some rumors about sandusky, you bet your ass that the young aspiring coach won't do more than say "wow, thats some crazy shit, Im not touching that topic with a 50 ft pole". If the freekin cops don't want to do their job in Waco and in the middle of cowfuk pennsylvania - guys who get paid to hold the law, you think people who are basically getting paid to be company men are going to blow the thing up? of course not.
Forget pen st, that place sucks so bad its not even worth talking about. Its one of the most unreal places in america, and not in a good way.
This thing is deeper then we know, yis guy was out of control. He kept molesting children even after he retired. I belive he continue because everyone at State Penn look the other way. You mean to tell me that everyone else thought it was normal for a grown man to bring a child that wasn't related to him to Bowl games. JP should have checked him. I live in PA, you could provide a video with JP acknowledgING that he was aware of the abuse in the 80'same and people would still defend hin. Unbelievable
Possibly one of your weakest arguments ever. As you may possibly imagine, CFB coaches spend a lot more time meeting with one another than they do with players. That's the nature of the job.
So according to your logic, if Greg had no reason to suspect Sandusky's behavior with young boys over a 5 year period in the mid 90's, then maybe Joe had no reason to know as well ?
The PSU board welcomes folks with your POV.
My logic is : if Schiano knew , there were a lot more that knew and that includes some on the roster while Sandusky was coaching and possibly suspecting him after he was made Coach Emeritus.
Suspecting someone but not wanting to believe it might be more appropriate.
But I feel there might be some people that hope Greg knew about Sandusky, because those people just don't like Schiano and use anything they can to put him down.
My belief is Paterno quelled all rumors about Sandusky and convinced his staff they were unwarranted.
He's been in hiding since calling me a few f words and a liar. Coincidentally, so has reppin jerz.
When these documents get out, i think they are going to be a lot worse than what we have already heard
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Paterno himself was molesting kids -it sure would explain his actions.
Act like a tool much brah?
Schembechler is the guy that still owns the conference win percentage record for those that have coached 10 or more years, He is the one that threw out the infamous "A Michigan man will coach Michigan" which has morphed to mean all types of things, but was used for a coach that took another job, so Bo didn't let him stay for the tourney. This is the guy when finding out about agents trying to get a foot hold on the team, not only brought in law enforcement, but testified in open court against the mob.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/it...booted-penn-state-fiasco-blog-entry-1.1632133
A quote of Bo's ......."Do the Right Thing -Always" Which Bo always did. Turned down the biggest salary in all of college FB, at the time, because he didn't have the heart to tell the kids he was leaving. He has no NCs to show, but he doesn't have the blemishes the other big name coaches during that time had either.
This is the guy that called Tressel out as a snake long before he paced the Buckeye sidelines. He had heard about him being caught up with cheating at Youngstown.
Which brings us to the relevancy......if Bo knew anything bad about Joe Pa, I sure as hell doubt he would of been nice to him. Usually crazy stuff has a way of making the rounds in the coaching fraternities. We think we know what happened long after the fact, but back in the 90s. I am saying Bo wouldn't of been kind to the guy if he had any idea what was going on.
Just because Rutgers doesn't have their stable of famous coaches, you didn't need to be a bitch about it.
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Bo's opinion of Joe Pa has no relevance to anything in this case. Everyone that knew him had nice things to say about him because no one knew he was a child rape enabler. No one here said everyone outside of PSU knew.
I'd like to thank you for proving my point with your post. You're correct Rutgers doesn't have the same history and tradition as Michigan. You know what? Most of us accepted that long ago and we're hoping we can make some noise going forward and enjoy Saturdays watching a game we love and supporting the school we have a connection to. No need to bring out the typical elitist Michigan script and try to disparage Rutgers.
And as the Penn State situation has showed us, perhaps it's a bit naive to continue to put your honest, good-hearted, stand-up man coaching idol on such a high pedestal. Joe Paterno occupied that pedestal not too long ago.
And as I and others have pointed out, Schembechler's opinion of Joe Paterno really matters less than nothing.
Why are you here? Are you an adult? If you're not, that would explain a lot...
Why don't you go back to the Michigan boards? If we want to hear how about how awesome Michigan is, we'll come get you.
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