Question for those of you criticizing this - have you ever played competitive sports? This type of thing is pretty standard in collegiate and high school sports.
"Knighted"/Game Ready Players-Updated April 20
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Stickers for a good play in a game should not be removed because you can't undo the play that got you the sticker. The "Knighted" stripe means you are game ready. If, for any reason, the staff thinks the player has regressed to a point where they should come out of the line up why can't the stripe be replaced and the player put on notice?
The shame of it is that I kind of like the black stripe on the helmet. Maybe we will go to a white stripe?
I am going to go out on a limb and assume you are not a great motivator of men.
Nor are you likely to be promoted to "shift manager."
It is a good program, Just not as good as Louisville where BB players get hookers and whore and Penn state get boys in the showers, but give us some time maybe we will get up there with these "classy" programs!
For those of you who are criticizing or questioning the "knighting" as a motivational strategy let's remember that that's all it is, a tactic or strategy. Some coaches use reward, some yell and scream, some belittle (Bobby knight and Mike Rice come to mind) some use a combination. Ash believes that competition builds the character he wants in his players. He uses this technique as a way to identify the players he can use and count on. It is not good, nor is it bad. It is his technique and it fits his competition based approach - nothing more nothing less.
I like it. Also, knowing Ash's background via the big ten, I wonder if he will go with helmet stickers during the season?
Don't you have to EARN that 1st team spot? Same difference, right?
Lol! Much needed humor...why do these people need to take it so seriously, if the players like it who gives a flying F what some message board fans thing isn't "adult" enough...after all these ARE kids for the most part
you're missing the point. They were on her nightstand so they could be put on my helmet post performance :fistbump:[banana]
If you are practicing hard, and someone gets "knighted" you will emulate what they've done. You will take stock in YOURSELF.
Perhaps you push yourself that little bit extra. Whatever you think about this system, remember one thing, no competitive athlete wants to be left behind. So they WILL work harder, and that makes everyone better.
Perhaps you push yourself that little bit extra. Whatever you think about this system, remember one thing, no competitive athlete wants to be left behind. So they WILL work harder, and that makes everyone better.
I think you forget you are dealing with 18-22 year olds. Very few people at that age don't need a kick in the ass.
I had (what I thought) was a great reply but I'll stop now as I don't want to be perceived as more of a whack job than I already am. [devil] (just having some fun)
True, but if everyone could properly identify what needs to be done and adequately motivate themselves to do the right things, at the right time, with the required amount of focus and energy, we wouldn't need leaders. Even if a person is motivated to improve themselves, they may not know (in fact probably don't know) the best way to go about it. Sometimes you have to "paint the picture" for them. Then, they get it. Other times, you need to push them beyond self-imposed (usually psychological) limits they've placed on themselves. Motivational tools like the ones Ash and company are using help to get all 85+ individuals on the same page so they can function as a unit, a real team.
What are you trying to say here? That the motivation to win battles and stay alive is not as motivating to soldiers as the desire to win a sporting contest is to football players? So, to your way of thinking, it makes sense that the military employ motivation techniques but it's a waste of time for college football players because the football players are already more motivated than the soldiers?
It's just conversation that some of us tried to elevate to a broader understanding of motivation, team spirit... esprit de corps, if you will. Some people don't get it. We tried to paint the picture, but they still don't see it. It is what it is.
Okay....here's the next thing for Redlight123 to call silly......top performers get rewarded with better food and apparel to wear. Urban Meyer does it at OSU, now Ash is doing it at Rutgers.
I understand my experience with something like this was a long time ago. We were given ridiculously high numbers in spring training, when you arrived at your locker in the morning and saw a low number it was a badge of honor.
Te low number was always accompanied by a "Stargell Star" as well.
Until you got both of those, you knew you had no chance of playing in a game.
This was the way it was on what I'd consider a high level team full of adults and playing at the premier level.
I love the competition and awareness of where you stand with the coaches and your team-mates!
They won a national championship because of superior talent and execution. Not because of Mickey Mouse ceremonies. I believe these kinds of things work short term but long term it becomes a joke to the players. The thing with Meyer the only place he stayed longer then 3 years was Florida and that program started to fall apart and he suddenly had health problems. We will have to see if he can have long term success at OSU or if it gets ugly like Florida. They took a step back last year. So will they improve or continue to decline this year. Saban has had long term success with out all the gimmicks. He just recruits and coaches them up.
Should have said they had to go on her nightstand becuase yours was already covered with them.
How little you know or understand motivation of young men
As Sebastian states and what it does to him and the players around him;
"It was an honor and a blessing. But it doesn’t mean anything, I just know I have to keep working and keep getting better. Now I have to take all my teammates with me. I am trying to get all the d-linemen with me. I want to get all the d-linemen knighted.”
If you can understand this, if it is nothing more then a bootstrapping of a talented player into a leader who in turn will boost others up to his level and (Walla) eureka, an entire team is playing at a new level. Yes it is more then just that but it is a part of a big puzzle where small parts may not mean much to you, (look stupid), but it is a single brick that as Schiano put it "will build a solid foundation". So if we follow this path using Urban Meyer and Greg Schiano's map it is not a bad thing to get knighted, a gimmick to you but a motivator to the people involved is a way to uplift the Esprit de corps.
BTW go and look up esprit de corps meaning but then try and understand what this means. it is more then just reading what a dictionary says but try to comprehend how it realty applies to the total group of men/boys/young men. it is the thing that separated the winners from just a gang of guys.
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