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Laviano ,moment of truth?

Coach Klump is just taking orders from Elmer Fudd.
See no chance of our other QB option ( the one who can throw the ball downfield) seeing the field against the undermanned MSU secondary.
If at some point in the 2nd half we are down 3+ scores, and we continue to trot Laviano out there? The skies might be clear, but the boo's will rain down.
 
Not sure if this is true.

I think we have very good RB's. And I don't think our OL is bad per se, but in the conference we are in, we see some very good DL's. PSU if it has anything it has that. And whether we run the ball or pass the ball, if the DL outperforms our OL, there will be trouble either in the form of runs for minimal gain or sack's/hurries which can lead to bad decision making by the QB.

So I don't know if throwing the ball more is necessarily playing to our strengths.
It is throwing the ball effectively,that will loosen up the run game.This should entail more throwing on first down & stretching the field vertically.A decent D will exploit a predictable O,which we have been.
 
And people weren't calling for the benching of Nova after the Penn State game last year??? I know I was.///

Then you are a hip draw reactionary. Nova was the clear choice last year.

Here without a clear choice (and really retting may be the clear choice in the upside down flood world), you play them both and see what rises. Retting has been out of fball for a few a years. Foolish not to think he needs minutes and to get a few int's in exchange for developing a weapon.
 
Not sure if this is true.

I think we have very good RB's. And I don't think our OL is bad per se, but in the conference we are in, we see some very good DL's. PSU if it has anything it has that. And whether we run the ball or pass the ball, if the DL outperforms our OL, there will be trouble either in the form of runs for minimal gain or sack's/hurries which can lead to bad decision making by the QB.

So I don't know if throwing the ball more is necessarily playing to our strengths.

The problem is we have a very short passing game, such that we are rarely getting 10+ yards on a completion, so an unsuccessful run on first down puts your QB is essentially the place as most offenses are on 3rd and long. Laviano must complete the pass on 2nd, then again on 3rd just to continue the drive. It's hard to be run first if you don't have a QB that can pick up chunks of yardage. When your QB is hitting almost 70%, I think you throw first to setup the run.
 
When your QB is hitting almost 70%, I think you throw first to setup the run.

I think this is correct. McDaniels has to mix up the run and pass more offten. If CL can complete 70% then let him pick up 5-7 on first down. At the start of the 2nd half when we had the ball here were the plays:

  • 1st and 10 at RUTG 15
    (14:54 - 3rd) Paul James run for a loss of 1 yard to the Rutgr 14

  • 2nd and 11 at RUTG 14
    (14:54 - 3rd) Paul James run for a loss of 2 yards to the Rutgr 12

  • 3rd and 13 at RUTG 12
    (14:54 - 3rd) Chris Laviano run for 7 yds to the Rutgr 19

  • 4th and 6 at RUTG 19
    (14:54 - 3rd) Joey Roth punt for 51 yds , DeAndre Thompkins returns for 6 yds to the PnSt 36

Down 21 points we are running on 1st and 2nd down setting up CL for a 3rd and 13 from the 12, that's a bad position to put your QB in.

The next drive went like this:

  • 1st and 10 at RUTG 15
    (11:26 - 3rd) Chris Laviano pass complete to Matt Flanagan for 15 yds to the Rutgr 30 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at RUTG 30
    (11:26 - 3rd) Chris Laviano pass complete to Josh Hicks for 14 yds to the Rutgr 44 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at RUTG 44
    (11:26 - 3rd) Josh Hicks run for 4 yds to the Rutgr 48

  • 2nd and 6 at RUTG 48
    (11:26 - 3rd) Chris Laviano pass complete to Josh Hicks for 7 yds to the PnSt 45 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at PSU 45
    (11:26 - 3rd) Chris Laviano pass complete to Carlton Agudosi for 17 yds to the PnSt 28 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at PSU 28
    (11:26 - 3rd) Robert Martin run for 2 yds to the PnSt 26

  • 2nd and 8 at PSU 26
    (11:26 - 3rd) RUTGERS Penalty, illegal procedure (-5 Yards) to the PnSt 31

  • 2nd and 13 at PSU 31
    (11:26 - 3rd) Chris Laviano pass intercepted John Reid return for 44 yds to the Rutgr 35
Now I know CL threw and INT to end the drive. But, on three 1st and 10s he completed passes of 15, 14 and 17.
 
Laviano may or may not be the right QB for us, but the fact remains he led the offense to just 3 points against Penn State and didnt do very well against a weak WSU defense as well.

70% completion rate doesn't mean much with only 3 points in the board.

This.
Best Post of the day.
 
Not too many first time on the road starters would fare too well at psu at night particularly with offensive line doing their sieve impression. I think the expectations around what you are going to get out of an inexperienced qb need to be reigned in a little honestly. Very few come in and light it up from the start.
 
Our coaching staff was widely criticized for continuing to play Nova early last season.. calling for Laviano to replace him. I would love to go back and see who those posters were. Would anyone be surprised if they were the same posters calling out the coaches for their QB decisions this year? I suppose now they would have to concede that the coaches made the right calls last year with sticking with Nova.
I don't seem to remember anyone calling for Laviano last year in fact most here knew it was Nova or bust. As reports out of camp were that Nova was better by mile. Now if you had said Dodd then I could agree with you. That's not the same situation as this one. As it was a close race with many stating that Rettig had caught up to Laviano or even surpassed him during the QB competition. Then he goes out completes 9-11 without our best WR available. People got a taste of what he can do. They have seen Laviano's body of work thus far and are not impressed. I think everyone has a right to question the coaching staff in this matter. Why have we not seen Rettig at all after his start by default? Flood alluded to using two QB's in his presser's. Are they afraid to hurt Laviano's feelings, afraid to crush his confidence? If that's the case then he shouldn't be your starting QB anyway because he just to fragile.
 
hes got Leonte back, his game will greatly improve. Anybody's game would improve with Carroo
Don't recall Leonte catching to many deep passes against WSU and he was open deep in that game. In fact don't remember him catching that many passes at all. And WSU's defense is atrocious. So now Laviano's going to find Leonte against a tougher D. I'm not holding my breath.
 
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"Chris is our starting quarterback"

We all know what that means. It's fun to dream, but the guy is never coming out of a game barring injury. Ever.

We are better off hoping he transforms into Russel Wilson overnight.
 
And people weren't calling for the benching of Nova after the Penn State game last year??? I know I was.///

Then you are a hip draw reactionary. Nova was the clear choice last year.

Here without a clear choice (and really retting may be the clear choice in the upside down flood world), you play them both and see what rises. Retting has been out of fball for a few a years. Foolish not to think he needs minutes and to get a few int's in exchange for developing a weapon.
Hip draw reactionary???? We had seen 2+ years of Nova going from really good to down right terrible. That was by no means a knee jerk thought.

Granted sticking with Nova paid off, my thought at that time was wrong, and I have no problem admitting that, but that was by no means an in the moment reactionary thought.
 
The problem is we have a very short passing game, such that we are rarely getting 10+ yards on a completion, so an unsuccessful run on first down puts your QB is essentially the place as most offenses are on 3rd and long. Laviano must complete the pass on 2nd, then again on 3rd just to continue the drive. It's hard to be run first if you don't have a QB that can pick up chunks of yardage. When your QB is hitting almost 70%, I think you throw first to setup the run.
Don't disagree, I'm not against passing more on 1st down, or more in general, but I think saying we should pass more in order to "play to our strength" is not something I agree with.
 
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