Football Max Melton & Chris Long Suspended
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how about Courtney Greene? Part of where my handle is from
Thanks, that's a useful bit of info. So assault in NJ is merely the threat of violence. Aggravated assault is where there is actual physical contact, no matter how inconsequential. And if there is a weapon, then the mere threat of violence (brandishing the weapon) is automatically aggravated assault.
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N.J.S.A. 2C:39-1 classifies airsoft guns and BB guns as “firearms”. A paintball gun, while not considered to be a firearm, is still classified as a weapon under New Jersey law because it is capable of inflicting serious bodily injury. As a result, individuals and even juveniles who think they are simply playing with a recreational item may find themselves in trouble with the law for offenses like unlawful possession of a weapon or possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose
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Paintball Gun – A paintball gun is not considered a “firearm” under New Jersey law, but it is still considered a “weapon” because it is capable of serious bodily injury under statute 2C:39-1. Therefore, similarly to most other weapons crimes, you will be charged with a fourth degree crime if you are found to be in possession of a paintball gun under circumstances that are not manifestly appropriate for a lawful use. The charge will be upgraded to a more serious third degree felony if you use or intend to use the paintball gun to hurt another person or their property.
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My roommate and I were caught shooting a pellet gun out our dorm window freshman year. We had the gun confiscated until the last day of school and were placed on probation by the dean They didn’t even bother informing the track coach
Schiano would have suspended them for getting caught underage drinking. Once they do their investigation they will decide whether to reinstate them and what punishment.
If said players had an NIL deal with the paintball gun company or a local paintball range perhaps this could be excused?
Honestly no excuse for this, anyone saying anything otherwise, well idk...
Lock him up for going to a licensed facility and everyone wearing protective equipment? Probably not.
Wow are his parents going to be pissed
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Cedar Creek grad Max Melton suspended for Rutgers trip to Michigan.
Cedar Creek High School graduate and starting Rutgers cornerback Malachi “Max” Melton has been suspended for the team’s game at Michigan on Saturday.
Schiano teaching a lesson before a game he knows he’s not gonna win…classic coaching move right there
Imagine how disappointed Bo is. Especially if this turns into a lengthy suspension.Wow are his parents going to be pissed
Cedar Creek grad Max Melton suspended for Rutgers trip to Michigan.
Cedar Creek High School graduate and starting Rutgers cornerback Malachi “Max” Melton has been suspended for the team’s game at Michigan on Saturday.
I really miss the days when our biggest problem was how loud the music is at the stadium.
Seems like people are already forming pretty rigid ideological battles lines around this situation without having nearly enough details about the specific case to do so knowledgably.
A paintball gun isn't a real gun, or even a BB gun. It can, however, if used against an unwilling party, do serious and permanent damage to the eyes and ears.
I don't think anybody here would argue that shooting paintballs at someone who isn't willingly participating is a form of assault. A baseball bat is not a weapon at all when used properly. It's a deadly weapon in an assault if used as such in a crime though, right?
The degree to which an assault is "aggravated" is probably a question best left to lawyers familiar with both the applicable legal statutes and the specific details of a given case.
The details are critical in determining the crime here. And we don't have the details yet. It's possible we'll never have those details unless we're present in court or at depositions or the like.
What's unarguable at this point is that one of our best players is unavailable for the game Saturday. And that just sucks.
A paintball gun isn't a real gun, or even a BB gun. It can, however, if used against an unwilling party, do serious and permanent damage to the eyes and ears.
I don't think anybody here would argue that shooting paintballs at someone who isn't willingly participating is a form of assault. A baseball bat is not a weapon at all when used properly. It's a deadly weapon in an assault if used as such in a crime though, right?
The degree to which an assault is "aggravated" is probably a question best left to lawyers familiar with both the applicable legal statutes and the specific details of a given case.
The details are critical in determining the crime here. And we don't have the details yet. It's possible we'll never have those details unless we're present in court or at depositions or the like.
What's unarguable at this point is that one of our best players is unavailable for the game Saturday. And that just sucks.
Wouldn't surprise me the details involving some busybody making a phone call that seems to happen way too often in this country to initiate the cops showing up to what was probably some harmless college fun.
This makes zero sense. They were arrested THIS morning. Did Schiano choose that? He acted immediately which is what he should do, not consult the schedule. Seriously an ignorant comment
Besides, its certainly a winnable game. Would it be an upset? Sure, but to say its not winnable is just not accurate.
I am sure in most places the gun just taken away from the guys and schiano makes them run sprints until they vomit.
that would be good, or have him tell his parents in person
Maybe they were just promoting the paint ball industry as part of an NIL deal ??
Anyone have an idea as to what the "unlawful purposes" was?
That phrase is vague and can really be something awful.
I once witnessed some cars speeding on a NY highway, just north of Jersey, having a paintball fight between vehicles. And, yes, they were hitting the windshields.. guys hanging out windows firing. Insane stuff back when paintball was a new thing... before a simple cell phone call might have meant some dire consequences for them.
That phrase is vague and can really be something awful.
I once witnessed some cars speeding on a NY highway, just north of Jersey, having a paintball fight between vehicles. And, yes, they were hitting the windshields.. guys hanging out windows firing. Insane stuff back when paintball was a new thing... before a simple cell phone call might have meant some dire consequences for them.
Max’s suspension will be nothing compared to what is going to come from mom, dad, and big bro.
and signing a consent document and waiver of liability...
You think guns and taxes are everything in my life? That's silly. And who said my life was miserable? You're putting words in my mouth.
As to your question. Not much really. But it's where I live for now.
If they didn’t hurt anyone and were just deemed to be horsing around I’d think this will end up being just a probation and they’ll miss a game. If someone was injured, different story.
Most places don’t have politicians and/ or Rutgers 1000 types that will call for their heads.
Considering his old boss used to do this:
and wait 'til the end of the season to say "tsk, tsk but boys will be boys" I'd say GS is on the right track.
It's going to hurt on Saturday but we don't want to be the league's vermin.
The smart coaching move would be to investigate quickly, and if it's poor judgement and hijinks, make a quick decision and announce a 1 game suspension for Michigan. Probably our least important game left on the schedule.
If it was Agg assault, there was someone (victim) involved and they were not simply shooting at property which would be criminal mischief.
It doesn't have to be lethal to be considered aggravated assault. The fact cops showed up, arrested and charged them with aggravated assault makes it seem the weren't just plinking at some aluminum cans.
"you will be charged with a fourth degree crime if you are found to be in possession of a paintball gun under circumstances that are not manifestly appropriate for a lawful use. The charge will be upgraded to a more serious third degree felony if you use or intend to use the paintball gun to hurt another person or their property.
I'm sure it's goofing around. But you can't goof around in NJ like that. Fair or not.
And to tell you the truth I'll be surprised to see if there's a Prosecutor in NJ that's going to say the equivalent of "Paintball gun are toys not weapons. Just kids doing kid things." Neither the judiciary or the State Prosecutors office or the NJ media will look kindly on that. Will a prosecutor possibly cut his own career throat to throw these kids a bone?
I hope so but don't think so.
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