Shawver was looking for the big move trying to get the team win.... Poz... Just maybe a lil gassed, rushed a half shot into a good counter.... That "back up" Soldano wrestled is a stud.... Who he shoulda beat... Had beat... Till the very last second.... Not like we weren't prepared.... Just didn't get it done.... Is that on coaching??? Or on the wrestlers not finishing???... Coaches job is to put their wrestlers in a position to succeed... At some point... Its on the wrestlers to do it!!!
Of course Poz should have been tired. He took about 6 or 7 full shots which he never converted while the Minny guy didn't really make a good attempt at a takedown until the winning score. That seemed to be the mantra for a few of the Minny guys. Let RU take the shots, tire out possibly and make one good attempt which was converted. It didn't help that the refs were God awful. RU blew a great opportunity this afternoon.
But is that on coaching???? Or on the wrestlers for not finishing their attacks and allowing the crazy endings??? I'm sure Poz, Soldano, and Shawver would tell you who they blame....Guarantee it aint the coaches
At the end of the day it’s always on the wrestlers.. even if we got Hahn or Cael or the best coaches ever it’s not going to magically turn some of our guys into champs or even AA… it’s always on the wrestlers to dig deep..
Maybe you misconstrued. I wasn't disputing your post. The wrestlers are out on the mat and have to execute. They are the ones who need to be aware of the time on the clock and the score of the match. But, the coaches are the ones who are responsible for recruiting and preparing the wrestlers for matches. So there is responsibility from their side as well. We have very good wrestlers, but we are not getting the cream of the crop at this point. If the other teams have better recruits, better coaches, and better training partners (which some obviously do), our wrestlers will struggle against them. I was with a high profile, high school coach during the match. He was constantly pointing out how Minnesota looked stronger, smarter, better coached and wanted it more today. I wanted to argue and defend our wrestlers, but he was right.
Don’t get our hopes up we are not beating Ohio state.. didn’t know Karchala got hurt bc the kid starting his spot is so good thought he actually beat Karchala for the spot.
Yea Rocco Welch was a PA four time state finalist. He lost lastr night to Shane Griffith on riding time. If he chose neutral in 3rd, I think he would have won. Either way the kid is very good.
Normally I would agree with you but when you go 0-31 against the top 5 in conference you have to question coaches. It not just two individuals and some kind of anomaly. This dual was filled with close matches. Why was Minnesota wrestlers able to finish?
Not rocket science... They were better!!!! But bottom line.... The match was there.... The wrestlers were prepared... They didn't get it done today.... Kudos to the opponent.... But you can't look at any of the matches I highlighted and say that we didn't belong there....
I attended in person and this was my take away too. Rutgers attacked and pressed, Minnesota stalled and did nothing. Then, when Rutgers wore down, Minnesota had enough gas in the tank to get the job done in the end.
It would be interesting if someone did some stat analysis of all the top guys at their weight class what body type build they are.
The problem is that the kids that are long, lanky and talented all end up elsewhere. We were talking about this too after the match. This is why I think many feel that if we had the NIL money to dangle, we would be getting these kinds of kids.
We didnt get them before and even if we had more money to throw at them, chances are we would be outbid by the bigger programs in my opinion.
Can you get over the parking price. We heard you say it over and over and over and over again. I agree it is high but I but I don’t need to hear it in EVERY post!
No I can’t get over it because it’s outrageous. I hear fans complain about it walking into the rac every match.
Burroughs does not want to coach once he’s done competing and while Hahn is a great coach, why does everyone think it’s a forgone conclusion that’s he’s a better coach than Goodale?
When we wrestle lanky teams everyone says we’re not lanky enough. When we wrestle stocky teams everyone says we’re not sticky enough. Just get good wrestlers and develop them.
We dont know but its a chance I think a lot are willing to take. Hes got s tremendous pedigree, NJ legend, great NCAA and Freestyle accolades, tons of asst experience in top school and now running a solid program in the middle of nowhere and putting a very competitive team out there.
To add to this, he’s winning at South Dakota State AND keeping it closer against BIG10 competition than we are. Not to mention his only 2 loses on the season are to B10 teams that, if I’m being real, we probably don’t beat either. It’d be very interesting to see what he could do with B10 money and RU’s facilities. What kind of connections he could bring not only for NIL but assistant coaches and the wrestling club team members as well. Hell, even the Patriots are moving on from Belichik. Not talking any kind of sh*t on Goodale because he brought this program back but I agree that this is probably his ceiling. Let’s be a top 5 in the B10 program where a NJ D1 program should be.
This is why I’m really curious what body type most of the elite wrestlers are for their weight.. let’s just start wit flo’s p4p guys.. r most of them lanky, stocky, or medium build to u guys?
Really feels like even not too long ago everyone had a lot more matches…. Looking at the recent PSU blue print though, seems like their game plan is to wrestle as little as possible and try to get as many guys healthy to national tournament as possible… and why not as our sport is essentially built around one weekend.. not great for the fans but this strategy is probably a smart idea.
Goodale definitely has in the 17 seasons…. Now with this being the 10th in the B1G the question is how many more years to see if we can take the next step? 2? 5? Is 10 enough of a chance?
I haven't heard Burroughs does not want to coach
I doubt there’s any correlation. A guy with one leg won a national title once. Good wrestlers who develop will always beat good wrestlers that don’t develop and mediocre wrestlers who do develop.
Ok then say Rutgers fires Goodale, offers Hahn the job and he says no thanks. Then what? Some of you guys live in a fantasy world.
This is a tired argument that gets recycled after every loss. Rutgers has developed plenty of guys. In this current lineup, Peterson, Shawver, and Poz are 3 of the top 4 wrestlers, all home grown and 1 of which from out of state. Turley is a former AA, another home grown guy and from out of state.
The way I’m looking at it is that these guys have lived up to their potential, nothing more. They came in with the expectation that they’d be ranked wrestlers and anything less than that is a let down. I’m not sure if I can name a wrestler we’ve had that has been coached up and exceeded their expectations as a recruit except maybe Turley. The way you do that is not only with your coaching staff but the club wrestlers you have in your room which, let’s be honest with ourselves here, Rutgers is SEVERELY lacking in. I think people transfer here because they’ll start in our lineup and they get the chance to wrestle against the best of the best and test themselves. Not because they think our staff will get more out of them. You don’t have to agree with me but I’m trying to take a very unbiased view at the current state of the program. If you think we’ve improved as a program since 2020 I’d like to see the facts that back that up and I’ll step back and agree.
On the current roster alone, I’d argue that Shawver, Cetta, DeSantis, SCW, and Britton are the top 5 in terms of outperforming expectations. If you want to take it back further, Clark and White were NQ’s despite not being highly recruited, the VanBrills were quality big 10 starters despite not being top recruits, then you have the Perrotti and Theobold stories and Jordan Pagano could have been an AA if not for the covid year.
How about bringing donation level higher ...you bitch and whine after every loss ...ya want a top 5 program with your 15-20 level wallet ..calling for a man's job incessantly ..your the biggest whiner here ..it gets old ..
