Not trying to rain on your parade but......

[LFBall]

I think The Head Coach and Associate Head Coach are outstanding hires even though I felt RU could get a proven high major guy in that slot. Honestly they did because Hobbs was a serious in demand for bigger jobs coach years back when he had GW rolling. Most thought it would have been him taking over got Jim Calhoun!! How wrong everyone was! So with the top two positions in great hands lets talk Assistants.

RU is walking a tight rope and could be either great with the additional hires or very average with some who many of you seem so interested in getting. Every single one of us could recruit for traditional winning programs. Any of us could get a winning program on the lists of blue chip recruits. Unfortunately its not like that right now. I love loyalty but to have more than 1 Stony Brook coach other than the Head coach on staff seems to me to be recruiting suicide. See Gary Waters please! And I am a Gary waters fan for many reasons!

The BIG is a million miles away from who low majors like Stony Brook recruit. I would not care if Big Jim comes out of retirement as an advisor at RU, its a different cup of tea on the BIG level. They need to understand its no longer just about talent. Now its about talent, strength, toughness, and competing hard daily. Its a different type of recruit that often means going through the type of people schools like Stony Brook never even experienced.

RU needs people who know how to get it done from Hutchinson Kansas (NJCAA) to Detroit, to NYC, to Philly and to Washington DC with true characters in more ways than 1. The BIG is big business and RU is going against seasoned recruiters who know how to get it done by being right next to the illegal stuff line. They know the movers and shakers in AAU who always have a hand or two or three out. Not saying RU has to cheat. But I am saying RU needs some ah, um, ummmm, oh, creative recruiters!

So if you feel a low d1 staff from Stony Brook who recruited potential as opposed to studs are the way to go good luck. But if you want to get it done and be competitive sooner, the next few hires are very important. I also wonder if Karl Hobbs came to RU because he does not expect to be on the road as much? Just curious! I still like Greg Vetrone in a spot because he does know how to do just enough that its not illegal. Plus he has the connections he can better use at RU than he could for FDU. I also like a guy like Steve DeMeo who is a clean version of a true shark and who has recruited nationally. Brandon Knight would be good as well. I would also look into a NJ guy like Jean Prelough (spelling) who has lots of high major experience even though not one of my favs these days. Believe it or not I also like the coach of Hudson Catholic for a position. Pretty boy who knows his stuff and would appeal to the moms lol. Regardless, RU needs serious get it done people at the positions to be filled.

 

[ruman]

I think The Head Coach and Associate Head Coach are outstanding hires even though I felt RU could get a proven high major guy in that slot. Honestly they did because Hobbs was a serious in demand for bigger jobs coach years back when he had GW rolling. Most thought it would have been him taking over got Jim Calhoun!! How wrong everyone was! So with the top two positions in great hands lets talk Assistants.

RU is walking a tight rope and could be either great with the additional hires or very average with some who many of you seem so interested in getting. Every single one of us could recruit for traditional winning programs. Any of us could get a winning program on the lists of blue chip recruits. Unfortunately its not like that right now. I love loyalty but to have more than 1 Stony Brook coach other than the Head coach on staff seems to me to be recruiting suicide. See Gary Waters please! And I am a Gary waters fan for many reasons!

The BIG is a million miles away from who low majors like Stony Brook recruit. I would not care if Big Jim comes out of retirement as an advisor at RU, its a different cup of tea on the BIG level. They need to understand its no longer just about talent. Now its about talent, strength, toughness, and competing hard daily. Its a different type of recruit that often means going through the type of people schools like Stony Brook never even experienced.

RU needs people who know how to get it done from Hutchinson Kansas (NJCAA) to Detroit, to NYC, to Philly and to Washington DC with true characters in more ways than 1. The BIG is big business and RU is going against seasoned recruiters who know how to get it done by being right next to the illegal stuff line. They know the movers and shakers in AAU who always have a hand or two or three out. Not saying RU has to cheat. But I am saying RU needs some ah, um, ummmm, oh, creative recruiters!

So if you feel a low d1 staff from Stony Brook who recruited potential as opposed to studs are the way to go good luck. But if you want to get it done and be competitive sooner, the next few hires are very important. I also wonder if Karl Hobbs came to RU because he does not expect to be on the road as much? Just curious! I still like Greg Vetrone in a spot because he does know how to do just enough that its not illegal. Plus he has the connections he can better use at RU than he could for FDU. I also like a guy like Steve DeMeo who is a clean version of a true shark and who has recruited nationally. Brandon Knight would be good as well. I would also look into a NJ guy like Jean Prelough (spelling) who has lots of high major experience even though not one of my favs these days. Believe it or not I also like the coach of Hudson Catholic for a position. Pretty boy who knows his stuff and would appeal to the moms lol. Regardless, RU needs serious get it done people at the positions to be filled.

Ok

 

[Jim_from_RU]

I think The Head Coach and Associate Head Coach are outstanding hires even though I felt RU could get a proven high major guy in that slot. Honestly they did because Hobbs was a serious in demand for bigger jobs coach years back when he had GW rolling. Most thought it would have been him taking over got Jim Calhoun!! How wrong everyone was! So with the top two positions in great hands lets talk Assistants.

RU is walking a tight rope and could be either great with the additional hires or very average with some who many of you seem so interested in getting. Every single one of us could recruit for traditional winning programs. Any of us could get a winning program on the lists of blue chip recruits. Unfortunately its not like that right now. I love loyalty but to have more than 1 Stony Brook coach other than the Head coach on staff seems to me to be recruiting suicide. See Gary Waters please! And I am a Gary waters fan for many reasons!

The BIG is a million miles away from who low majors like Stony Brook recruit. I would not care if Big Jim comes out of retirement as an advisor at RU, its a different cup of tea on the BIG level. They need to understand its no longer just about talent. Now its about talent, strength, toughness, and competing hard daily. Its a different type of recruit that often means going through the type of people schools like Stony Brook never even experienced.

RU needs people who know how to get it done from Hutchinson Kansas (NJCAA) to Detroit, to NYC, to Philly and to Washington DC with true characters in more ways than 1. The BIG is big business and RU is going against seasoned recruiters who know how to get it done by being right next to the illegal stuff line. They know the movers and shakers in AAU who always have a hand or two or three out. Not saying RU has to cheat. But I am saying RU needs some ah, um, ummmm, oh, creative recruiters!

So if you feel a low d1 staff from Stony Brook who recruited potential as opposed to studs are the way to go good luck. But if you want to get it done and be competitive sooner, the next few hires are very important. I also wonder if Karl Hobbs came to RU because he does not expect to be on the road as much? Just curious! I still like Greg Vetrone in a spot because he does know how to do just enough that its not illegal. Plus he has the connections he can better use at RU than he could for FDU. I also like a guy like Steve DeMeo who is a clean version of a true shark and who has recruited nationally. Brandon Knight would be good as well. I would also look into a NJ guy like Jean Prelough (spelling) who has lots of high major experience even though not one of my favs these days. Believe it or not I also like the coach of Hudson Catholic for a position. Pretty boy who knows his stuff and would appeal to the moms lol. Regardless, RU needs serious get it done people at the positions to be filled.

The all-knowing swami.

Whatever bro.

 

[NYKnightFan]

The only group of people more buried in a culture of losing than the Rutger's men's basketball team is the Rutger's fan base. Many of you are so desperate for success that you will grasp at straws for any glimmer of false hope. Talk about a deeply ingrained culture of losing. Stop acting so desperate! How about cutting the negativity and supporting the new coach and staff.

 

[DirtyRU]

I don't see what's wrong with LF's post. It's just his opinion... and he may be right.

 

[ruman]

I don't see what's wrong with LF's post. It's just his opinion... and he may be right.

Or not

 

[Virginiarufan]

The only group of people more buried in a culture of losing than the Rutger's men's basketball team is the Rutger's fan base. How about cutting the negativity and supporting the new coach and staff.

The OP is not what I would call an RU fan - maybe more of a general NJ/NY basketball fan with a passing interest in RU.

 

[DirtyRU]

Or not

Of course, that's why it's opinion and not fact. Ya can't predict these things, unless you can foresee the future. So not sure why people are blasting LF. Nothing wrong with him throwing his opinion/observation on the board. When he does it and it has a positive tone, people tend to praise. If it's not what they want to hear they get defensive. It's like we're in kindergarten.

 

[ruman]

Of course, that's why it's opinion and not fact. Ya can't predict these things, unless you can foresee the future. So not sure why people are blasting LF. Nothing wrong with him throwing his opinion/observation on the board. When he does it and it has a positive tone, people tend to praise. If it's not what they want to hear they get defensive. It's like we're in kindergarten.

He can write what he wants. And maybe with the last staff I'd pay attention; Eddie had no idea what to do and no desire learn.

But in this case, I'll go with Pikiell, Pat Hobbs and Karl Hobbs. I think they know what they are doing. And if Pikiell needs advice, he'll call Jim Calhoun.

 

[LFBall]

Thanks DirtyRU for your kind words. I am so used to this it does not phase me lol. I know what I am saying and what I am saying might be in code. But those that know the college hoop game fully understand what I am saying. RU is competing against seasoned in your face get it done recruiters and head coaches who look the other way or do not want to know what was done to get a certain kid to commit. Many operate on only a need to know basis, Its why you see whats happening at some schools and the Assistant takes the blame and is forever taken care of via a friend of the program fund. Not saying RU needs to do this. But I will say its known that RU is one of the very few who does it all above board. And thats nice...... However RU needs the staff that can compete with that type of recruitment. RU needs salesmen who could sell ice in Alaska. RU needs coaches who will sell education and why these stud recruits do not need to accept gifts when they will be future high earners not needing negative stories later in life. I am telling you the wrong staff, including some you folks feel are good based on where they were, will keep you fighting with Northwestern for the bottom slot in the BIG. Dream and get a NCAA BIRTH and not hope for a birth in the CIT (is that what its called!

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Nice attempt to veil your "we can only succeed if Shoes is retained" platform. :chairshot::chairshot::chairshot::chairshot::chairshot:

 

[LFBall]

By the way Jim Calhoun would understand exactly what I am saying and I hope Karl Hobbs still has energy to recruit! We know he can coach!

 

[LFBall]

Not as much about Shoes as it is about the right staff for the job. I also mentioned others. But I said my piece and now lets talk about it next year at the same time and compare notes.

 

[New Knight Fan]

I don't want any re-treads who couldn't get it done at other schools. Pass on all the names that LFBall has mentioned except Knight. That would be a homerun. I don't know Vetrone, so someone tell me how is connections translated to wins for Rutgers. In fact has he ever been successful at any level. High school? CYO? He is such a wonderful recruiter he must have killed it at FDU.

 

[Jim_from_RU]

Not trying to rain on your parade but......

Yes. Yes you are.

 

[RUJMM78]

I think The Head Coach and Associate Head Coach are outstanding hires even though I felt RU could get a proven high major guy in that slot. Honestly they did because Hobbs was a serious in demand for bigger jobs coach years back when he had GW rolling. Most thought it would have been him taking over got Jim Calhoun!! How wrong everyone was! So with the top two positions in great hands lets talk Assistants.

RU is walking a tight rope and could be either great with the additional hires or very average with some who many of you seem so interested in getting. Every single one of us could recruit for traditional winning programs. Any of us could get a winning program on the lists of blue chip recruits. Unfortunately its not like that right now. I love loyalty but to have more than 1 Stony Brook coach other than the Head coach on staff seems to me to be recruiting suicide. See Gary Waters please! And I am a Gary waters fan for many reason
The BIG is a million miles away from who low majors like Stony Brook recruit. I would not care if Big Jim comes out of retirement as an advisor at RU, its a different cup of tea on the BIG level. They need to understand its no longer just about talent. Now its about talent, strength, toughness, and competing hard daily. Its a different type of recruit that often means going through the type of people schools like Stony Brook never even experienced.

RU needs people who know how to get it done from Hutchinson Kansas (NJCAA) to Detroit, to NYC, to Philly and to Washington DC with true characters in more ways than 1. The BIG is big business and RU is going against seasoned recruiters who know how to get it done by being right next to the illegal stuff line. They know the movers and shakers in AAU who always have a hand or two or three out. Not saying RU has to cheat. But I am saying RU needs some ah, um, ummmm, oh, creative recruiters!

So if you feel a low d1 staff from Stony Brook who recruited potential as opposed to studs are the way to go good luck. But if you want to get it done and be competitive sooner, the next few hires are very important. I also wonder if Karl Hobbs came to RU because he does not expect to be on the road as much? Just curious! I still like Greg Vetrone in a spot because he does know how to do just enough that its not illegal. Plus he has the connections he can better use at RU than he could for FDU. I also like a guy like Steve DeMeo who is a clean version of a true shark and who has recruited nationally. Brandon Knight would be good as well. I would also look into a NJ guy like Jean Prelough (spelling) who has lots of high major experience even though not one of my favs these days. Believe it or not I also like the coach of Hudson Catholic for a position. Pretty boy who knows his stuff and would appeal to the moms lol. Regardless, RU needs serious get it done people at the positions to be filled.

Rutgers needs higher level talent to successfully compete In the B1G.A coaching staff composed primarily of former Stony Brook assistant coaches lacks the cache to attract higher level recruits .lets remember the perception of the mens basketball program is at a all time low based on the first two years in the B1G.To change the negative perception assistant coaches from programs in power conferences should be considered like Knight from Pitt.

 

[B1GNJHoops]

Rutgers needs higher level talent to successfully compete In the B1G.A coaching staff composed primarily of former Stony Brook assistant coaches lacks the cache to attract higher level recruits .lets remember the perception of the mens basketball program is at a all time low based on the first two years in the B1G.To change the negative perception assistant coaches from programs in power conferences should be considered like Knight from Pitt.

I prefer Knight to Young but Pikiell has experience beyond Stony Brook. Also Hobbs has experience that does not include Stony Brook.

It's risky to hire someone who just has ties to one or two spots (CBA, Hutch, for example), because if the pipeline dries up or the better players go to more established programs, we're shit out of luck.

Knight should be the clear front-runner for the final spot. Hopefully Stony Brook comes to its senses and hires Jay Young as HC.

 

[PaKnight]

Rutgers needs higher level talent to successfully compete In the B1G.A coaching staff composed primarily of former Stony Brook assistant coaches lacks the cache to attract higher level recruits .lets remember the perception of the mens basketball program is at a all time low based on the first two years in the B1G.To change the negative perception assistant coaches from programs in power conferences should be considered like Knight from Pitt.

Like the fired coach from FDU?

 

[oldtimer67]

I think The Head Coach and Associate Head Coach are outstanding hires even though I felt RU could get a proven high major guy in that slot. Honestly they did because Hobbs was a serious in demand for bigger jobs coach years back when he had GW rolling. Most thought it would have been him taking over got Jim Calhoun!! How wrong everyone was! So with the top two positions in great hands lets talk Assistants.

RU is walking a tight rope and could be either great with the additional hires or very average with some who many of you seem so interested in getting. Every single one of us could recruit for traditional winning programs. Any of us could get a winning program on the lists of blue chip recruits. Unfortunately its not like that right now. I love loyalty but to have more than 1 Stony Brook coach other than the Head coach on staff seems to me to be recruiting suicide. See Gary Waters please! And I am a Gary waters fan for many reasons!

The BIG is a million miles away from who low majors like Stony Brook recruit. I would not care if Big Jim comes out of retirement as an advisor at RU, its a different cup of tea on the BIG level. They need to understand its no longer just about talent. Now its about talent, strength, toughness, and competing hard daily. Its a different type of recruit that often means going through the type of people schools like Stony Brook never even experienced.

RU needs people who know how to get it done from Hutchinson Kansas (NJCAA) to Detroit, to NYC, to Philly and to Washington DC with true characters in more ways than 1. The BIG is big business and RU is going against seasoned recruiters who know how to get it done by being right next to the illegal stuff line. They know the movers and shakers in AAU who always have a hand or two or three out. Not saying RU has to cheat. But I am saying RU needs some ah, um, ummmm, oh, creative recruiters!

So if you feel a low d1 staff from Stony Brook who recruited potential as opposed to studs are the way to go good luck. But if you want to get it done and be competitive sooner, the next few hires are very important. I also wonder if Karl Hobbs came to RU because he does not expect to be on the road as much? Just curious! I still like Greg Vetrone in a spot because he does know how to do just enough that its not illegal. Plus he has the connections he can better use at RU than he could for FDU. I also like a guy like Steve DeMeo who is a clean version of a true shark and who has recruited nationally. Brandon Knight would be good as well. I would also look into a NJ guy like Jean Prelough (spelling) who has lots of high major experience even though not one of my favs these days. Believe it or not I also like the coach of Hudson Catholic for a position. Pretty boy who knows his stuff and would appeal to the moms lol. Regardless, RU needs serious get it done people at the positions to be filled.

I certainly don't agree with everything in this post, but there is definitely some truth in it. My problem with it is that it is a description of what Rutgers needs to be when it starts competing against the top of the league. Unfortunately, that is still a ways away. Right now Rutgers needs to be able to recruit the players that let us compete against the bottom and maybe middle of the conference. Realistically, that is all the players Rutgers is going to get right now anyway.

So my answer is that the staff we need right now is probably not the staff we will need later, but now is now and later is later. Rutgers would love to have many of the KIND of kids that Stony Brook got right now. Maybe not in 3 to 5 years.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

I don't get what everyone is getting so defensive about. We're all behind Pikiell and until proven otherwise were gonna assume he knows what the hell he is doing and certainly has a mentor in his corner in Calhoun. It's not outrageous to hope he's not going to rely a ton on coaches who've never recruited or been part of big time programs. We're not in the A10, AAC, or Big East anymore. I don't read LFBall's post as some stealth campaign for Shoes or anything. I hope that ship has sailed anyway.

 

[ru66]

who wants to listen to a hall fan buried in the traditional past that has always gotten us no where

 

[NJ4life]

What I don't understand is that you guy don't listen to the people who know what really is going on and who talk to the kids and the basketball people in the area. Last time I saw LF was at the Gaucho's gym in NYC and we both saw Tripp play. What's even more funnier is that he played AAU with the program I am with. Did you ask his opinion of him? Do you realize that B. Knight played for the Playaz and that's why so many former Playaz came to Pitt? You don't know what you don't know, but to bash people who tell you what they think and know that are plugged in to basketball is self defeating and makes people not share useful information.

 

[S.W.A.I.N]

What I don't understand is that you guy don't listen to the people who know what really is going on and who talk to the kids and the basketball people in the area. Last time I saw LF was at the Gaucho's gym in NYC and we both saw Tripp play. What's even more funnier is that he played AAU with the program I am with. Did you ask his opinion of him? Do you realize that B. Knight played for the Playaz and that's why so many former Playaz came to Pitt? You don't know what you don't know, but to bash people who tell you what they think and know that are plugged in to basketball is self defeating and makes people not share useful information.

Because in the end you'll just tell us how stupid we all are for not realizing Corey Chandler was Kobe in disguise, and it was our fault as fans for ruining his inevitable ascent to super stardom. You're as biased as anyone else, the fact that you hang around more high school gyms than me doesn't impress me.

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

Given the decades of complete and utter incompetence with regards to the B-Ball program, mastering and negotiating the complexities of recruiting takes both a Pick Ax, as well as a Scalpel.

and it's a fair question, can Coach Pike hold tea with elite Administrators and Politicians, as well as hustle and play Spades with the Pimps and the Players. We'll find out shortly.

But one thing is for sure, your Hustle Game at Stoney Brook is not going to get it done at Rutgers.

 

[rubaseball78]

A couple holes in your argument. One, you felt RU could/should get a proven high major guy. I don't disagree with the desire for one, but what proven, high major guy would really consider coming to RU given the current state of affairs? Secondly, I understand the concern bringing a Stony Brook staff but is it realistic to expect a new coach to hire an entire staff of people he hasn't worked with. Pikiell seems to be approaching it correctly in that he is retaining some of his old staff for his own continuity yet bringing on someone like Hobbs who is used to playing in a different arena.

 

[RU_DIO]

I generally listen to the AAU coaches who know what the hell is going on.

Speaking of coaches, I went up and visited some friends who are very connected to Kevin Boyle. I was shocked to hear he was never called about his interest in RU.

 

[upstateknight]

What I don't understand is that you guy don't listen to the people who know what really is going on and who talk to the kids and the basketball people in the area. Last time I saw LF was at the Gaucho's gym in NYC and we both saw Tripp play. What's even more funnier is that he played AAU with the program I am with. Did you ask his opinion of him? Do you realize that B. Knight played for the Playaz and that's why so many former Playaz came to Pitt? You don't know what you don't know, but to bash people who tell you what they think and know that are plugged in to basketball is self defeating and makes people not share useful information.

I completely understand what LF is saying but he is under the impression that coaches, specifically a couple coaches from stony brook, cant recruit at this level, which is completely unfounded.

 

[Jim_from_RU]

I generally listen to the AAU coaches who know what the hell is going on.

Speaking of coaches, I went up and visited some friends who are very connected to Kevin Boyle. I was shocked to hear he was never called about his interest in RU.

I don't blame Hobbs for not calling Boyle. He's a HS coach. You don't go from HS to the B1G in the same job capacity.

 

[upstateknight]

I generally listen to the AAU coaches who know what the hell is going on.

Speaking of coaches, I went up and visited some friends who are very connected to Kevin Boyle. I was shocked to hear he was never called about his interest in RU.

So assistants who have been recruiting and coaching at the Division I level cant recruit at this level but we automatically assume a H.S coach can? Interesting

 

[Scarlet Pride]

Ha ha...people should at least wait to rain on the parade until the parade is actually underway. This post doesn't event make sense. The talk of a "low d1 staff from Stony Brook" that doesn't even exist at Rutgers. Trying to ding a great hire with random baseless questions/speculation about his energy level/commitment. And I'm not sure but I think the OP is trying to say Jim Calhoun doesn't understand basketball at the Big Ten level.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Not as much about Shoes as it is about the right staff for the job. I also mentioned others. But I said my piece and now lets talk about it next year at the same time and compare notes.

"Rutgers is looking good, but..."

"Not to rain on your parade, but..."

WE GET IT. You, ideally, want one of your buddies from the AAU circuit (preferably Shoes) to be on this staff and, if not, apparently we are "doomed" blah, blah, blah.

Hey, I've already said it 20 times, I'm MORE than happy with a Shoes/Knight/Etc, on the staff, but I want OUR HC to pic the guys that HE wants on his staff, period, and am sick of the incessant "he SHOULD do this" and "he SHOULD do that" crap.

No offense meant, however, just a point I'm trying to make: you DO have an agenda. Period.

 

[ruready4somefootball]

"Rutgers is looking good, but..."

"Not to rain on your parade, but..."

WE GET IT. You, ideally, want one of your buddies from the AAU circuit (preferably Shoes) to be on this staff and, if not, apparently we are "doomed" blah, blah, blah.

Hey, I've already said it 20 times, I'm MORE than happy with a Shoes/Knight/Etc, on the staff, but I want OUR HC to pic the guys that HE wants on his staff, period, and am sick of the incessant "he SHOULD do this" and "he SHOULD do that" crap.

No offense meant, however, just a point I'm trying to make: you DO have an agenda. Period.

Nuts, don't we all have a little "he should do this, he should do that" in bball, and football? I don't need to go hunting and find posts to this effect do I?

 

[MADHAT1]

LF,
Hobbs might think less travel recruiting at Rutgers, but might feel he will have to take on more responsibility contacting recruits and helping Pikeill close
on the ones that come on campus to check out the program.
Young might not have had the chance to get top recruits committing to Stony Brook, but that don’t mean he can’t do that as Rutgers recruiter.
Different targets , but if you can sell one program to the talent level and a little above it programs like Stony Brook attract, he might be able to sell RU to the HS talent the RU MBB program needs to start heading in the right direction.
But your Waters point I do take seriously when thinking of the drawbacks of bringing in a staff from a school like Stony even if the HC is confortable with him because of the time they spent together working to make the Stony Brook MBB program improve.
With a top assistant like Hobbs , maybe that good lower level recruiter could up his game and compete for the HS talent RU needs and connect with the heads of AAU programs.

I think Shoes staying wouldn’t be a bad idea, but I don’t hear any rumors anywhere of another program ready to scoop him up.
I might be wrong, but Shoes might not be as vital to RU recruiting as some tend to believe.
If it’s Jay Young that’s brought in to replace Shoes, Hobbs will probably be the lead recruiter while Jay is in charge of improving the defense and frontcourt play to make the team more competitive and also lend a hand in recruiting .
I’d say Hobbs will do the heavy recruiting like Shoes did and Young ( if hired) will be the assistant that works on getting the team ready to play.
If he doesn’t get the SB HC position and gets hired by Rutgers.

Dan Rickard might be the one that hits the recruiting trail hot and heave with Hobbs mentoring him .
I believe he’s around 35-36 which is about the time good assistants start making a name for themselves.
Hobbs and Rickard worked with the back-court players in their old jobs, so I think if Jay Young is hired it will be to work with the front-court and either Karl or Dave will be the main recruiter.
So Rutgers might not wind up like the Waters era failing to get the recruits needed to give the roster the type of depth programs need to be constant Tourney participants.
Or if recruiting doesn’t turn out as good as I implied they could, Pikeill will need to upgrade his staff .

If Brandin Knight comes on board, changes the whole assistant ballgame !!

 

[Bdodger2]

I do not see anything wrong with LFBall's post. I tend to agree with many of the items he mentioned in that post. In order for us to succeed we absolutely need to dramatically improve recruiting. That starts with the assistant coaches, but also needs to include a substantial increase in the recruiting budget. Without both, our ability to succeed will be almost impossible.

I frankly do not know whether Shoes or Young are the right guys. I am not sufficiently familiar with their abilities. My preference would be for Knight because I know him and have observed his success over the years. I do think it is possible, but RU will have to increase the asst coaching budget (and I understand we will for the right candidate), but, more importantly, convince Knight he will be comparable to Hobbs in substance and stature. The latter is the more difficult challenge.

I also agree with others that Pikiell should be seeking advice from Calhoun, and almost certainly is doing so. We do have an opportunity to place our program on a better footing if things are handled well and break our way.

 

[RUinFla]

Again. trust the HC and AD with regard to staff makeup and recruiting more than I trust the opinions of my fellow posters. LF is a seasoned observer, and his support of Shoes is commendable, but will have little if any effect on what does happen. We will just have to watt and see. Who would have predicted after RU beat Minnesota that weeks later, we would have a new young coach, an assistant with solid major college experience and an All-state recruit? Who knows what the next few weeks will bring? Maybe nothing much; maybe a lot.
TL

 

[mikefla]

Isnt it amazing that when someone starts out saying "I dont want to rain on your parade" they inevitably actually take a DUMP on said parade.

 

[ruman]

I generally listen to the AAU coaches who know what the hell is going on.

Speaking of coaches, I went up and visited some friends who are very connected to Kevin Boyle. I was shocked to hear he was never called about his interest in RU.

Nobody else hired him - he's a highschool coach. You don't make that leap

 

[B1GNJHoops]

Just wondering about some other landing spots for Brandin Knight ... UConn? Vandy? GT? Louisville?

 

[rubaseball78]

I generally listen to the AAU coaches who know what the hell is going on.

Speaking of coaches, I went up and visited some friends who are very connected to Kevin Boyle. I was shocked to hear he was never called about his interest in RU.

Hobbs stated he did not want to consider a high school coach who would be learning on the job.

 

[RU85inFla]

I hear Pikiell is reaching out to all current and past friend of the program for insight and opinions. I am sure this advice will steer his decision with respect to the OP's position and the rest of the staff.