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One Men's Lacrosse Prediction

Well the Mid State 38 was really good in football with Westfield, Bridgewater, Voorhees, Phillipsburg and North Hunterdon all in their sectional finals. I know that North and Voorhees have a big football rivalry. Is the Skyland conference as good in Lacrosse as the MS 38 is in football

It is top 2 conferences in state. Bridgewater, Moorestown, Ridge, HCHS, Watchung, Hillsborough, Montgomery, Pingry, North Hunterdon, Somerville, RU Prep, and Immaculata make up the top 2 divisions. That is a battle every game. The Fitch-Pitt is the only division I see being as hard or at same level as the Skyland
 
Morristown isn’t that in Morris county. Sounds like you have quite a battle in front of you. Do they do groups like in Football? What group would you be in?
 
No. I was worried for a minute with UDel pulling out all the stops but he is all Rutgers. He is a big time shooter, plays downhill, sees the field well, and is a huge kid. I am excited to see what a college strength and conditioning program can do for him.

How is his speed/running?
 
Morristown isn’t that in Morris county. Sounds like you have quite a battle in front of you. Do they do groups like in Football? What group would you be in?
Moorestown in south jersey is a very very good program not Morristown. Morristown is a good program also though.

Yes there are groups. Group 4 North is the group I coach in. The hardest group in the state, in my opinion.

http://www.laxpower.com/update17/binboy/alpha47.php

That is a link to all the schools that have lax in the state. You can see conferences and groups etc.
 
How is his speed/running?

He is very fast and has great acceleration.

I see him starting out as a man up specialist, with his ability to shoot 110+, but will become a full time midfielder as he gets more conditioned.
 
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Moorestown in south jersey is a very very good program not Morristown. Morristown is a good program also though.

Yes there are groups. Group 4 North is the group I coach in. The hardest group in the state, in my opinion.

http://www.laxpower.com/update17/binboy/alpha47.php

That is a link to all the schools that have lax in the state. You can see conferences and groups etc.
Why is Moorestown (sorry) in the Skyland Conference. Very strange. Based on this you have to play the best teams in group 4 North and South as well as group 3 South, but you are in the North. How is that possible?
 
He is very fast and has great acceleration.

I see him starting out as a man up specialist, with his ability to shoot 110+, but will become a full time midfielder as he gets more conditioned.

Sounds like he will fit in with our run and gun style very nicely.
 
Why is Moorestown (sorry) in the Skyland Conference. Very strange. Based on this you have to play the best teams in group 4 North and South as well as group 3 South, but you are in the North. How is that possible?

Moorestown left the conference they were in because the rest of the teams were not competitive with them.

Conferences, even for football, are not based on group size they tend to be geography and then your division.

We will play mostly North jersey group 3 and 4 schools with a few South jersey 3 and 4 schools. We will also have a few prep teams and maybe a group 2 school in there also.
 
Is it common for HS players to shoot 110 mph that seems incredible to me. How fast do grown men shoot 125?

He is an incredibly fast shooter for a high school age player. I think he was clocked at 116 before.
 
Here are his high school highlights, not club highlights.

 
Oh right, I have seen his video. He is a beast. That highlight film is incredible.

Absolutely looks like he can rip the ball.

Anything over 100 is fast at any level.
 
Really appreciate this thread. Round Table quality info.

Can't wait for the season to start!!!
 
Moorestown left the conference they were in because the rest of the teams were not competitive with them.

Conferences, even for football, are not based on group size they tend to be geography and then your division.

We will play mostly North jersey group 3 and 4 schools with a few South jersey 3 and 4 schools. We will also have a few prep teams and maybe a group 2 school in there also.
And you guys are competitive with those teams? Your player looks very impressive. Is he the best kid that we are getting? It looks like the Taub kid is highly ranked and leaves a couple of towns away, how good is he does anyone know. Do we lose a lot.
Sorry to ask so many questions but, you guys seem to know your stuff.
 
Some cockiness on the field ain't a bad thing. As is being excited. I wouldn't expect anyone to get rid of that at the college level.

Who else recruited him? Pretty obvious he has B1G talent.
 
And you guys are competitive with those teams? Your player looks very impressive. Is he the best kid that we are getting? It looks like the Taub kid is highly ranked and leaves a couple of towns away, how good is he does anyone know. Do we lose a lot.
Sorry to ask so many questions but, you guys seem to know your stuff.

The film I posted is not from the school I coach at. That is the high school film of a player who is on my summer travel team.

The high school I coach for should be competitive in every game we play with a chance to be in every game. I expect us to be a top 4 seed in our county and state playoff games.

Stevenson is good, and bring a lot to the table, but I would not say he is our premiere recruit we are bringing in next year.

Rutgers has a very good senior class but we have depth and elite players across all 4 grade levels.

Taub is a very good defender.
 
Let’s just make sure we take care of the first piece of business, which making the post season. I realize that given the small field that once you get in you have shot to make some noise but we really need to leave no doubt that we belong because the selection committee has not been kind to us the last couple of years.
 
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Don't like cockiness & never did. Passion, fierce competitiveness is another story.
 
I’ve personally never met any great players that weren’t a little cocky. All the best that I know had that in them on the field. These are guys that ascended tonthe very top. HoF players.
 
I’ve personally never met any great players that weren’t a little cocky. All the best that I know had that in them on the field. These are guys that ascended tonthe very top. HoF players.
Well I've met plenty of great players who were not cocky in the least, on the field or anywhere else.
 
Well I've met plenty of great players who were not cocky in the least, on the field or anywhere else.

I think there is a difference between cockiness and arrogance. I personally want some cocky players on my team. I want kids that know they are good, want the ball, and want to make plays but can not be arrogant. They must be coachable and a team player.
 
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Arrogance, cocky, supreme confidence, it’s all the same to me. And the best I’ve seen and known all had that trait.
 
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Wow really it just looked like the kid was having fun, it’s still a game right they are allowed to have fun right
 
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No one is going to try and coach that out of him. In fact, that enthusiasm is encouraged.
 
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They are coached by legendary coach and RU All American Chuck Apel. Before they even get there they are coached by and are around lots of other coaches, players, and relatives who have D1 experience. Rutgers has always gotten great players from BR. If there is one program we have a pipeline to, it’s there. Those kids come in having been well coached their whole lives, have high IQ’s, and know what to expect when they get there. And they come from a winning program. You always want kids like that.
 
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Not sure who’s a history guy in the thread but speaking from seeing them at the club level it’s like going against the Wehrmacht before the Winter of 1940-1941 and then the Soviets afterwards (because they just keep coming and coming and coming).

To paraphrase the line by George Marshall:

“When we need something done on the field, get me a Bridgewater Lacrosse player.”

And what @Caliknight said too. LOL
 
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Yeah they are always a fun team to have to coach against....
 
Is it common for HS players to shoot 110 mph that seems incredible to me. How fast do grown men shoot 125?

At some of the all star events (pro outdoor) they do fastest shot contests. I think some have shot in the 115 -119 range. Not sure if anyone has ever broken 120. However, to crank that hard in an actual game, you need what is known as a "time and room" shot. I.e. no one is near you, you are roughly 15-18 yards away from the goal and you have 2-3 seconds to wind up and set your feet. In real games against stout defenses, you don't get a ton of those types of oppurtunities save for man up or transition offense.

Even at 100 mph, most goalies can save those shots if they are outside the restraining box (+20 yards). If a defense knows a player has a cannon, the coach will always make sure that the shooter always has someone on their hands so they can't freely wind up.

So while time and room shots are important, how a player, particularly a midfielder, shots on the run is more indicative of their success in college. Stevenson seems like he's got a great shot on the run. His lefty shot even seems strong. Shooting on the run is less about velocity as it is accuracy/placement. The big thing for him will be using his body to get his hands free.

I helped out with a shooting clinic last night for some kids, we had some pro box players helping out. I got out the radar gun to time the kids and the pros. Clocked a few from the pros at over 100. Goalies are insane!
 
At some of the all star events (pro outdoor) they do fastest shot contests. I think some have shot in the 115 -119 range. Not sure if anyone has ever broken 120. However, to crank that hard in an actual game, you need what is known as a "time and room" shot. I.e. no one is near you, you are roughly 15-18 yards away from the goal and you have 2-3 seconds to wind up and set your feet. In real games against stout defenses, you don't get a ton of those types of oppurtunities save for man up or transition offense.

Even at 100 mph, most goalies can save those shots if they are outside the restraining box (+20 yards). If a defense knows a player has a cannon, the coach will always make sure that the shooter always has someone on their hands so they can't freely wind up.

So while time and room shots are important, how a player, particularly a midfielder, shots on the run is more indicative of their success in college. Stevenson seems like he's got a great shot on the run. His lefty shot even seems strong. Shooting on the run is less about velocity as it is accuracy/placement. The big thing for him will be using his body to get his hands free.

I helped out with a shooting clinic last night for some kids, we had some pro box players helping out. I got out the radar gun to time the kids and the pros. Clocked a few from the pros at over 100. Goalies are insane!
Ok I can understand Pro's shooting over 100mph but he is talking about a HS player.
 
Not sure who’s a history guy in the thread but speaking from seeing them at the club level it’s like going against the Wehrmacht before the Winter of 1940-1941 and then the Soviets afterwards (because they just keep coming and coming and coming).

To paraphrase the line by George Marshall:

“When we need something done on the field, get me a Bridgewater Lacrosse player.”

And what @Caliknight said too. LOL
oh ok, My son Played CYO BB with a couple of Bridgewater lacrosse players. One of his coaches, said that the one kid was supposed to be a really good goalie. He said he could possible start as a freshman. Does that happen alot in lacrosse? Rarely happens in football.
 
Ok I can understand Pro's shooting over 100mph but he is talking about a HS player.
No doubt its super impressive. Tough to tell how how fast he is in those clips.

Arguably, the best U.S. pro player (Paul Rabil) has a similar game. He's like 6"4, 220 and super fast. He gets a head full of steam and cuts either right or left, and gets his shot off in the mid to high 90's on the run, either hand. There is really no stopping that, you can only hope you get a stick on his hands to alter the shot.

I am by no means saying Stevenson is the next Rabil, but that type of play style is such an asset for an offense.
 
Depends on the school. At powerhouse programs in Baltimore for instance, you'd be hard pressed to ever find a freshman make varsity much less start.

My buddy coaches their JV team. I know last year he had 5 kids on that team who had verballed to top level D1 programs.

10th grade starting varsity isn't impossible, though unusual. I imagine BR is the same. Probably not to many kids coming in there as freshmen and starting on varsity.
 
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