Down to 3: Melvin, Bloom, Van Wagenen: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/2814/mickey-callaway
OT: 2018-19 NY Mets Offseason "Hot Stove" Thread
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Mets have stated that the process will be transparent and that the finalists will be made available for interviews. So we should know something "official" soon.
Knowing the Wipons it will be Van Wagenen who has no real experience in player development, etc but the Wilpons will think they will get a discount on the contracts with the players he has under management.
And I'm thinking they go with the old-school Melvin. In reviewing, sounds like Bloom would be the best choice of the three - so we can definitely count him out. :flush:
The best candidates were Ng and Bloom, in that order. If Bloom isn't the one chosen of the final three, they will be the Baltimore Orioles in two years.
From DiComo's article on mets.com: (Emphasis added)
Melvin, 66... is by far the oldest of the Mets' remaining candidates, just four years younger than outgoing GM Sandy Alderson. When Melvin stepped aside as the Brewers' GM in 2015, he said: "The job had just grown to a point that it's more suited for somebody who's younger than me."
"The general manager's job has changed dramatically," Melvin said at the time. "You have sports psychologists, you've got the medical side, you've got the analytics, you've got amateur scouting, you've got professional scouting. And the thing you haven't even talked about is the Major League team."
So by the man's own admission, he was too old three years ago. Which of course is why the Mets would hire him now.
Melvin, 66... is by far the oldest of the Mets' remaining candidates, just four years younger than outgoing GM Sandy Alderson. When Melvin stepped aside as the Brewers' GM in 2015, he said: "The job had just grown to a point that it's more suited for somebody who's younger than me."
"The general manager's job has changed dramatically," Melvin said at the time. "You have sports psychologists, you've got the medical side, you've got the analytics, you've got amateur scouting, you've got professional scouting. And the thing you haven't even talked about is the Major League team."
So by the man's own admission, he was too old three years ago. Which of course is why the Mets would hire him now.
Seriously, it is uncertain whether if offered, Van Wagenen would take the pay cut.
Which is why the Wilpons are the worst owners in baseball and perhaps all of sports. Even Dolan would not rank a person in their top 3 if they say they are no longer qualified for a job.
Wilpon said he thinks Melvin is younger now.
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In medical news, Franklyn Kilome, the young RHP and #5 prospect obtained in the Cabrera trade, just had TJ surgery. We wish him well and will hope to see him in 2020.
I am not a huge analytics guy but I really hope Bloom gets the job. Tampa really surprised me this year.
Sucks about Kilome we still can't have nice things.
All signs still point to Melvin the washed up GM.
Bloom would have used analytics and scouting methods but at least he never admitted he couldn't do the job anymore like Melvin.
All signs still point to Melvin the washed up GM.
Bloom would have used analytics and scouting methods but at least he never admitted he couldn't do the job anymore like Melvin.
Because it’s October (in which the Mets are not playing), and one of the prospects I was just hearing good things about is already lost for 2019.
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Happy Mookie day - best AB and announcing ever. A lot of misery with this franchise, but it simply doesn’t get any better than this for a die-hard IMHO. What a night!
Happy Mookie day - best AB and announcing ever. A lot of misery with this franchise, but it simply doesn’t get any better than this for a die-hard IMHO. What a night!
Agreed. How the hell can you be a GM when you represent 5 of the team's players? In what universe can that be a good idea?
Come on, do the Mets really have Hot Stove stuff to talk about?
Absolutely would have too but still presents lots of challenges and questions.
Yeah, we have seen how well "divesting" works out.
Two prospects headed in different directions: Peter Alonso tearing it up in AFL. Dom Smith released by his DR Winter League team after appearing in only seven games.
Smith is finished. He hasn't shown anything in either of the last two seasons when there was plenty of opportunity for him to do so.
Smith is a major fail by the Alderson team. Never seemed to get his weight under control along with a number of head scratching off the field mistakes. Add to that the Mets front office seemed to screw around with his Development - played him at first base, then right field, then left field. Another wasted relatively high first round pick.
I am not sold on Alonso at first base. Below average defensively on a team already defensively challenged. Who knows whether his hitting translates to the majors when he faces big league pitching. Maybe it works offensively, but I fear nothing more than another Lucas Duda here.
I am not sold on Alonso at first base. Below average defensively on a team already defensively challenged. Who knows whether his hitting translates to the majors when he faces big league pitching. Maybe it works offensively, but I fear nothing more than another Lucas Duda here.
Well, we could always talk about your prediction of multiply Yankee Championships in the next 5 years, dating back to last year, so by my count 0-2.:thumbsdown:
Of course the mets are going to pick the wrong candidate in thinking they would get discounts on degrom and other free agents. Theyre too cheap or stubborn to get the GM who built the no name Rays to get 90 wins in the same division with TWO 100 win teams.
Well I have no idea who is right and who is wrong, but, DiComo is reporting that Van Wagenen is now the favorite. According to a source, the job is his if he wants it.
Keep in mind that Van Wagenen wanting it is not a given. He'd be looking at a major pay cut.
I would add that going from agent to GM is not unprecedented. The current GM of the LA Lakers made that jump.
"I demand that Jacob deGrom either be extended or traded!" - Brodie Van Wagenen, July 2018
"Ummm, never mind." - Brodie Van Wagenen, October 2018
"Ummm, never mind." - Brodie Van Wagenen, October 2018
ESPN ran a very good article on the pitfalls of hiring an agent as your GM.
The team risks creating the perception, and maybe even the reality, that the players who had contracted with the agent are being sold out. The agent/client relationship is a special one. The agent is privy to medical and personal details that the client does not want management to know. Until all of a sudden, the agent is management.
On the other hand, there is a risk that the agent-turned-GM will show partiality to his former clients, to the detriment of other players and to the team as a whole.
Not saying that these concerns can't be overcome. Am saying that they need to be overcome.
The team risks creating the perception, and maybe even the reality, that the players who had contracted with the agent are being sold out. The agent/client relationship is a special one. The agent is privy to medical and personal details that the client does not want management to know. Until all of a sudden, the agent is management.
On the other hand, there is a risk that the agent-turned-GM will show partiality to his former clients, to the detriment of other players and to the team as a whole.
Not saying that these concerns can't be overcome. Am saying that they need to be overcome.
Was Smith released or did he leave over lack of OF playing time? I'm not sure his MLB career is over. $$$$
They just couldn’t take Bloom could they?!?! Hopefully for the sake of Mets lovers everywhere this works out.
His MLB career is definitely not over. He's still on the Mets 40 man roster. The DR Winter League team that he played for is unaffiliated with the Mets.
To answer your question, there are conflicting reports. Smith is saying, or at least implying, that he left voluntarily because of lack of OF playing time. However, I had previously read a report that he was released because he wasn't hitting. The DR league has a limit on the number of foreign players per roster. The teams in that league seem to have a very quick hook for foreign players who aren't producing.
I know, for Christ sake,the Tampa team seems to find young players all over the place, this will cost the Wilpons more in the long run,idiots!!!
