LA hasn't had a good riot and looting in a few years.
OT: 2024 NY Yankees Season Thread
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Rizzo had one of the worst playoff performances I’ve ever witnessed. If you watched him on many of the doubles LA hit, the guy didn’t move. There was a base-running blunder in Game 2 that wasn’t talked about where he literally stopped running to second and ended up out when he would have been safe (killed a rally). Why was he holding the runner on after Weaver had already thrown over twice? “back-spin” on the squib - BS! That was a little league play and honestly I know it’s not the “right” play but why make Cole sprint 90’ when Rizzo could have jogged 4 feet. Keep Cole’s legs fresh. Then you look at some of his swings and you realize how lost he was for a veteran guy.
I put this disaster entirely on the GM and coaching staff. Easiest example - when Soto was on late in the game for some unknown reason he’s standing two feet off the bag. You would think he was about to get picked off. The commentators kept talking about his poor lead. Where the F is the First Base Coach? He doesn’t see Soto? Boone doesn’t see Soto? If someone told me the pitcher had picked off a dozen runners during the season then may be I get it.
Or how about Rojas - it wasn’t a “perfect throw” if it was any player other than Stanton rounding third. Knowing Stanton is the slowest guy on the team and LA’s arms are good, you can’t send him there.
I’ve come to the realization that just because all these coaches played baseball doesn’t mean they can coach baseball. There is a reason Theo Epstein was legendary and built championship teams - he was a smart lawyer that worked everyday with a bunch of former players that could probably barely read and never went to college.
How can you put this entirely on the coaching staff? I sure they didn't coach Judge to drop the ball in center in game 5 or for Cole not to cover first. The players are the ones on the field and are either executing or not executing.
Soto wasn't 2 feet off the bag. When they showed his lead his lead he was off a normal amount. Not a lead where he'd have to dive to get back but he certainly wasn't only 2 feet off. Smoltz just had a hard on for Soto the entire series. Saying that balls hit to Soto are doubles and triples and when they are hit to Betts they are only singles and saying he didn't run hard when he tagged up when in fact he was busting it down the line pretty good when they showed the replay.
Well now that baseball is over we can look back on the season to determine what team was the best NY team.
Here's the case for the NY Yankees:
Got to the WS
Here's the case for the NY Mets:
Swept the Yankees during the regular season.
Took the World Series Winner LA Dodgers to the 9th inning of Game six in the NLCS where thier rally ran out. Yankees only managed to force a game 5 in World Series and blew a 5 run lead.
The Mets were never supposed to get this far and gave us a magical ride. Next year the expectations will be higher.
For Both Teams its the old cry Wait until next year!
Here's the case for the NY Yankees:
Got to the WS
Here's the case for the NY Mets:
Swept the Yankees during the regular season.
Took the World Series Winner LA Dodgers to the 9th inning of Game six in the NLCS where thier rally ran out. Yankees only managed to force a game 5 in World Series and blew a 5 run lead.
The Mets were never supposed to get this far and gave us a magical ride. Next year the expectations will be higher.
For Both Teams its the old cry Wait until next year!
It’s on the managers to make sure the players execute properly. Boone & Co. let all these little bad habits fester during the regular season when he should have cracked down on the players. Inmates running the asylum. Attention to detail. It’s the little things that matter. Did Luis Rojas study the LA outfielders, the dimensions of stadiums, timed player speeds from second, etc. That may sound over-the-top but it was just the Stanton play he also got Torres thrown out at home in the Cleveland series.
Dont know what you are watching but Soto is a trash outfielder. He's all ego about $600 mil because he had a super year at the plate batting in front of Judge....not bad protection.
Dude has ZERO heart. He's a Nate Robinson 5* talent that plays to a 3* . Wont be crushed when he signs elsewhere. Let's see if he iba stand alone power hitter with less protection behind him
Not for anything but wouldnt these Einstein's have the foresight to see looting & large crowds if they won and bring in hundreds of more cops and have National Guard on standby
We're all disappointed, but there were some positives
1. Torres played well and I think warrants the effort to try and offer a reasonable contract.
2. Stanton, when healthy, can still be a force.
3. If Holmes is willing to accept the roll as a setup guy...offer him.
4. Cole is still top shelf.
Suggestions for 25...move Jazz to RF/CF, sign Bregman, let Soto walk, get a real closer, and get rid of Cashman/Boone.
Can Judge play 1st base, cause Rizzo is done?
1. Torres played well and I think warrants the effort to try and offer a reasonable contract.
2. Stanton, when healthy, can still be a force.
3. If Holmes is willing to accept the roll as a setup guy...offer him.
4. Cole is still top shelf.
Suggestions for 25...move Jazz to RF/CF, sign Bregman, let Soto walk, get a real closer, and get rid of Cashman/Boone.
Can Judge play 1st base, cause Rizzo is done?
Problem is your proposal won’t get the Yanks back to the WS…I don’t know enough about potential trades and FAs, but the future is not bright especially if Soto leaves. As much as his D was mediocre, the guy could end up being an all-time great. He’s only 26.
Unless they can structure a contract like Ohtani, that's ties up a lot of $$$. And I think California tax law is more team friendly than New York tax law.
I hear you…but not sure they have an option because if Soto walks the Yanks’ odds of even making the playoffs goes WAY down. Basically, Yanks are screwed. This was the year. I’m wondering if the soul-crushing way this series played out will impact players next year. Imagine reporting to Spring training next season - no way to simply let this one go. I’ve seen the Yanks win a bunch of WS but unfortunately I will never forget this debacle because I’ve never seen anything like it. Not to mention that Freeman GS will be a regular high-light reel for eternity. Thank you Boone/Nestor!
Torres is a huge dogger... move on
Stanton DH too high priced
Soto not worth the $$$ liability in OF was protected all yr with Judge behind him.
Judge there will be a day RF or 1B. He needs to be in field he loses juice/production as DH
Like to see them sign Jazz he just needs to start hitting for better average and stop swinging to hit the train in RF
The Yanks need scrappy players not privileged players. Judge needs to step up his game as captain and demand hustle
Bring up the 6'6 phenom from AA put him in CF and move Judge to RF
In all fairness he was playing with 2 broken fingers...as someone who has done the same its very plainful. Probably why his bat was dragging slow thru strike zone. Seemed like the barrel was always way behind..kind if tells me he was having a tough time throwing the hands thru swing
Oh come on, Soto is a mediocre to poor outfielder. If you watched him play in San Diego you wouldn't be surprised by his play with the Yankees.
Intersting, We need Judge to carry us to the playoffs during the regular season but then he loses the real test, the playoffs. A terrible dilemma. Judge has to carry us to a World Series win or his legacy, fair or not, was missing that easy flyball in the fifth.
A true leader/champion at least plays the same in the post-season and even raises his game:
Derek Jeter (BA, OB, OBS, HR) - 162 game average
Regular - .310 ; .377 ; .817 ; 15
Post - .308 ; .374 ; .838 ; 20
Very similar in the playoffs with a bit more power.....and obviously tons of amazing intangibles.
Mariano Riveria - he made the equivalent of 1.5 seasons worth of appearances in the post-season
(ERA, WHIP, Hits/9, HR/9, BB/9, K/9)
Regular - 2.21 ; 1.000 ; 7.0 ; 0.5 ; 2.0 ; 8.2
Post - 0.70 ; 0.759 ; 4.2 ; 0.2 ; 1.0 ; 7.1
Holy F! Any question on why Riveria was the first unanimous inductee to the HOF? Just wow.
Aaron Judge - played in 58 post-season games:
(BA, OB, OBS, HR/162, RBI/162)
Regular - .288 ; .406 ; 1.010 ; 51 ; 117
Post - .205 ; .315 ; .768 ; 45 ; 95
Not as bad as I expected with the HRs, but truly awful with overall production at the plate (regular season vs. playoffs).
First basemen are involved in more plays than any other player in the field. Why wouldn't you put your best fielder at first? Trying to hide your worst fielder at first will come back to bite you.
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