OT: Applications for Rutgers NB have increased almost 40% for Fall 2024

[vkj91]

Opinions vary. Livingston is improving more each year. It is not "absolutely horrible." For someone who bleeds Scarlet, you really don't like what Rutgers has to offer.

Wouldn't send any of my family members to a school in the Southeast for a variety of reasons. Cost and proximity to internships and quality of education in many subjects is well below Rutgers. You have your opinion, and others have theirs. All schools have their rough spots.

Just got off the phone with our oldest, who confirmed the Silvers apartments on Busch were absolutely fine.
Overall experience for our oldest (graduated 2023) at Rutgers was superb. Graduated with a fantastic job at a top medical software company in the midwest that recruits heavily from Rutgers for software engineers. Total cost of the Rutgers education for 4 years was $25K. No, the experience would not have been better at Clemson or Florida State because their campus and/or dorms were purportedly "nicer" and would not have gotten anywhere near the quality of education at those schools or the opportunities on graduation. Clemson and Florida State are not even in the same universe for computer science as Rutgers. Many kids are career-focused, and don't give a crap if one school has really nice dorms. As noted above, it's a bed, a desk and place to store your clothes and stuff. 🤷‍♂️

Let me get this straight. You would t send your kid to a school in the southeast because of opportunities in the northeast that don’t exist down there but your kid took a job in the Midwest? And here I was thinking places like Florida, Texas, and SC were growing with industry after industry relocating.

Hedge Funds moving to Miami have become a hot topic of conversation over the last two years. Ken Griffin announced his HQ move to Miami on the 13th of July, and the real estate community was really excited. The mass migration of staff not only from Citadel but also other financial groups to follow suit

 

[NotInRHouse]

Haven’t rented to raved or even said one negative thing about RU. You are unhinged

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Makes sense you could never get in. Sad.

 

[NotInRHouse]

You were wrong about that as well. You still think college and university are synonymous in Canada? I mean not like my wife and all of her nephews graduated from there or anything

It was about the tuition. You wouldn't know- you need to worry about the tuition at schools like Clemson, not elite, top notch ones.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Can you guys who say Rutgers look dumpy tell us which school you visited that had better dorms and why? I gave my experience at Villanova and Babson.

This would require them to admit the schools they're considering over RU are basically Southern auto-admit factories that would impress no employer or grad school.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Opinions vary. Livingston is improving more each year. It is not "absolutely horrible." For someone who bleeds Scarlet, you really don't like what Rutgers has to offer.

Wouldn't send any of my family members to a school in the Southeast for a variety of reasons. Cost and proximity to internships and quality of education in many subjects is well below Rutgers. You have your opinion, and others have theirs. All schools have their rough spots.

Just got off the phone with our oldest, who confirmed the Silvers apartments on Busch were absolutely fine.
Overall experience for our oldest (graduated 2023) at Rutgers was superb. Graduated with a fantastic job at a top medical software company in the midwest that recruits heavily from Rutgers for software engineers. Total cost of the Rutgers education for 4 years was $25K. No, the experience would not have been better at Clemson or Florida State because their campus and/or dorms were purportedly "nicer" and would not have gotten anywhere near the quality of education at those schools or the opportunities on graduation. Clemson and Florida State are not even in the same universe for computer science as Rutgers. Many kids are career-focused, and don't give a crap if one school has really nice dorms. As noted above, it's a bed, a desk and place to store your clothes and stuff. 🤷‍♂️

*mic drop*

But also, I wouldn't mind if they were choosing Emory or Duke or even UNC or UVA but they're choosing schools that anyone not an alum would say are not even close to RU academically.

 

[vkj91]

Well let's see. You're supposed to go to college for an education. And let's be pretty clear there's not very many NJ kids applying to UF or UGA. UNC, UVA, Duke and Vandy (and I guess Stanford and Cal now) are academically elite institutions. Interestingly, in these threads, those names never surface...what a mystery....

So putting those aside...at least at the undergrad level, RU pretty much is as good...and in mostly cases SIGNIFICANTLY superior academically (vs NJ parent favorites like Clemson or Bama in particular).

Then there is the cost aspect. Boy it sure is funny to hear how middle class families should send their kids to community college from people who think a degree from Clemson is worth more than one from Rutgers. I guess the money judgments don't go both ways?

And to top the cherry on the cake...that middle class or poor kid should schlep to Brookdale or whatever for 2 years, but the rich kid should value a pretty campus for 4? I mean probably 5 or 6, but same point.
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I think a lot of people make a lot of comments and then don't like the spotlight shone back on theirs. Too bad.

Personally my kid will be told...your choices are....Ivies/truly elite institutions or RU. You get a scholarship that makes the cost the same elsewhere, sure. If they didn't get into RU, after I was done bawling, I'd work it out, but it would be to next best ACADEMIC institution. Maybe that's Rowan. Maybe it's TCNJ. Or maybe it is somewhere OOS. But that is something different.

The idea I'd spend more money because of weather or a fancy facility is pretty hilarious. Even if I were a billionaire I know how much a dollar is worth and that's a lesson everyone should want to impart to their children. Then the same people whining cry crocodile tears because some other parent pays their kid's rent in Hoboken. Precious.

If people need to spend money to show off, there are surely better options. Send your kid to RU and buy a condo in New Brunswick or get them a nice car. A private, ELITE grad school (not Clemson. But Bama has a pretty good law school!)

Please show us who is saying poor kids should do one thing while rich kids shouldn’t. You never make any sense, you talk about cost and wasting money and then bitch when others suggest community college. I said in this very thread my niece had a full ride for sports, Jared the school and came home. She wanted to go to some 80k PA school. I wouldn’t let her. Made her go to CC for a year the a state school. Seems like I’m doing exactly what I suggest other to do and her parents are more than rich enough to pay the 80k

 

[vkj91]

It was about the tuition. You wouldn't know- you need to worry about the tuition at schools like Clemson, not elite, top notch ones.

Yea I don’t need to worry about tuition at any schools. First my kids get scholarships. Second, if need be I had more than enough money saved for undergrad and grad for each kid.
And no, it was both. You were arguing that more kids in Canada go to “college” not knowing college is 12th grade there.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Please show us who is saying poor kids should do one thing while rich kids shouldn’t. You never make any sense, you talk about cost and wasting money and then bitch when others suggest community college. I said in this very thread my niece had a full ride for sports, Jared the school and came home. She wanted to go to some 80k PA school. I wouldn’t let her. Made her go to CC for a year the a state school. Seems like I’m doing exactly what I suggest other to do and her parents are more than rich enough to pay the 80k

Not sure who Jared is or why you're telling other people's children what to do.

If it's good enough for your "niece" to go to community college maybe it's good enough for Brad and Chad at Clemson to come home to Brookdale?

 

[vkj91]

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Makes sense you could never get in. Sad.

This is one of your dumbest ever, congrats. Funniest thing about your stupidity is that you went to RU and paid all that money and nobody knows you even exist. Meanwhile, nobody from my family has ever even thought of going there and I have a room named after me.

 

[vkj91]

Not sure who Jared is or why you're telling other people's children what to do.

If it's good enough for your "niece" to go to community college maybe it's good enough for Brad and Chad at Clemson to come home to Brookdale?

When Brad and chad complain about the cost of schools or debt then yea they should. Like your and your future kids

 

[NotInRHouse]

Yea I don’t need to worry about tuition at any schools. First my kids get scholarships. Second, if need be I had more than enough money saved for undergrad and grad for each kid.
And no, it was both. You were arguing that more kids in Canada go to “college” not knowing college is 12th grade there.

Nope. In Quebec they have the CEGEP anyway. And it was tuition and you were wrong as always.

LMAO

McGill international tuition $34,638 CAD = $26,825 USD

RU OOS tuition $33,005 USD

| Student Accounts - McGill University

www.mcgill.ca

Tuition and Fees | Undergraduate Admissions

admissions.rutgers.edu

Done humiliating yourself?

Thanks for the reminder of how absolutely horrible you are at this. Maybe instead of visiting colleges and getting owned by your intellectual superiors on a message board, try cracking a book?

I mean you'll never be as smart as Rutgers alum, but maybe you can work your way up to the Willy P/Clemson alum level?

 

[NotInRHouse]

This is one of your dumbest ever, congrats. Funniest thing about your stupidity is that you went to RU and paid all that money and nobody knows you even exist. Meanwhile, nobody from my family has ever even thought of going there and I have a room named after me.

LOL, no one knows I exist? After your pals on the CE board tried to hunt me down?

Your family not going to RU is yet *another* win for RU. Not that they could ever get in.

Oh boy a room? I mean, it's not a library. Maybe it's detention?

 

[NotInRHouse]

When Brad and chad complain about the cost of schools or debt then yea they should. Like your and your future kids

So only poor people should have restrictions on where they get educated.

The circling the drain continues. Maybe stick to the CE board where your contributions are actually appreciated by those who for sure never set foot on a college campus.

 

[vkj91]

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This would require them to admit the schools they're considering over RU are basically Southern auto-admit factories that would impress no employer or grad school.

Yes, they are auto admit. Delicate having a lower acceptance rate than Rutgers. Lol
No sense revisiting the McGill thing again as you post one portion of the original conversation. These two days remind me why everyone just started ignoring you……
Rutgers if the greatest ever. Nobody should ever go elsewhere because if you don’t take a bus to class you can’t succeed.

 

[NotInRHouse]

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Yes, they are auto admit. Delicate having a lower acceptance rate than Rutgers. Lol

Delicate? Yes you are.

Yet the grades and SATs tell a different story.

But they take the money of low-IQ NJ parents who can't deal with their kid being on the Rowan wait list.

 

[Knight Shift]

*mic drop*

But also, I wouldn't mind if they were choosing Emory or Duke or even UNC or UVA but they're choosing schools that anyone not an alum would say are not even close to RU academically.

My oldest was accepted to UCLA, which is by far superior than RU in all aspects--beauty, prestige, quality of computer science department, but passed and chose Rutgers instead. Basically said to us (we were paying full tuition/room board to any school) that it would be a waste of money to spend an additional $180-220K to go to UCLA, and was fine with everything Rutgers had to offer.

 

[jtung230]

I have to correct myself. My wife told me she did see dorms at two places (I was not part of). SHU and American did show dorms. Feedback was SHU should’ve skipped it because it was like a prison. They didn’t even bother staging it. American was nice and very standard.

 

[Knight Shift]

Let me get this straight. You would t send your kid to a school in the southeast because of opportunities in the northeast that don’t exist down there but your kid took a job in the Midwest? And here I was thinking places like Florida, Texas, and SC were growing with industry after industry relocating.

Hedge Funds moving to Miami have become a hot topic of conversation over the last two years. Ken Griffin announced his HQ move to Miami on the 13th of July, and the real estate community was really excited. The mass migration of staff not only from Citadel but also other financial groups to follow suit

I don't get the point of your post. The company is a phenomenal place to work. World-renowned in the medical software industry. Pay is on par with Silicon Valley, and a much lower cost of living. Campus is phenomenal. Our oldest kid is very pragmatic and career-focused. Graduated with a near perfect GPA. Had nothing but great things to say about the Rutgers experience.

You have some sort of problem with the Midwest? Again, your post is a real head-scratcher. The opportunity after graduation was not the type of opportunity most people would turn town. It's extremely difficult to get an offer and get hired at this company.

 

[vkj91]

I don't get the point of your post. The company is a phenomenal place to work. World-renowned in the medical software industry. Pay is on par with Silicon Valley, and a much lower cost of living. Campus is phenomenal. Our oldest kid is very pragmatic and career-focused. Graduated with a near perfect GPA. Had nothing but great things to say about the Rutgers experience.

You have some sort of problem with the Midwest? Again, your post is a real head-scratcher. The opportunity after graduation was not the type of opportunity most people would turn town. It's extremely difficult to get an offer and get hired at this company.

No. I have no problem with the Midwest. Lived there for almost 4 years. My question was simple. You wanted your kid to go to school in the northeast because of the opportunity. But he took a job in the middle of the country. Kids who go to FSU or Florida don’t have that same opportunity? I guess I just wonder why RU alum love their generalities. They think nothing compares to RU and no other schools offer equal opportunities. Many of these people l(not you) who haven’t researched a college or stepped on another campus except for maybe a game in 20 plus years. Guarantee if you mentioned south Florida they’d all laugh. Having no idea USF is AAU

 

[rutgersdave]

No. I have no problem with the Midwest. Lived there for almost 4 years. My question was simple. You wanted your kid to go to school in the northeast because of the opportunity. But he took a job in the middle of the country. Kids who go to FSU or Florida don’t have that same opportunity? I guess I just wonder why RU alum love their generalities. They think nothing compares to RU and no other schools offer equal opportunities. Many of these people l(not you) who haven’t researched a college or stepped on another campus except for maybe a game in 20 plus years. Guarantee if you mentioned south Florida they’d all laugh. Having no idea USF is AAU

No one said other schools don’t offer equal opportunities but to pay an extra $200k to go out of state doesn‘t make sense. Your kids are in a different situation with sports scholarships. KS kid had the opportunity to go to UCLA, one of the top schools but didn’t want to pay the extra $200k. He could afford it. My nephew lives in Pennsylvania and I know he wants his kids to go to Penn State or Pittsburgh as an instate student which makes sense. If he gets scholarships to OOS schools and cost comparable to the instate schools then he can go wherever. They can afford to go to any school but they are not going to waste $200k more for a college education. In our family, the parents pay for their college education and don’t require loans.

Almost all the parents talking about OOS schools have kids that are eligible for merit scholarships or sports scholarships or the schools are lowering their cost to get top notch students in top 5% of their class. The majority of kids don’t get scholarships. Kids might get financial aid but upper middle class families pay full price.

 

[vkj91]

No one said other schools don’t offer equal opportunities but to pay an extra $200k to go out of state doesn‘t make sense. Your kids are in a different situation with sports scholarships. KS kid had the opportunity to go to UCLA, one of the top schools but didn’t want to pay the extra $200k. He could afford it. My nephew lives in Pennsylvania and I know he wants his kids to go to Penn State or Pittsburgh as an instate student which makes sense. If he gets scholarships to OOS schools and cost comparable to the instate schools then he can go wherever. They can afford to go to any school but they are not going to waste $200k more for a college education. In our family, the parents pay for their college education and don’t require loans.

Almost all the parents talking about OOS schools have kids that are eligible for merit scholarships or sports scholarships.

I think the cost is greatly exaggerated on this board. I’d like for some of the educators who have already posted here to chime in but most of my daughters friends got significant aid To the schools they were accepted at. Very few kids are paying 80k a year outside of the best schools. Of my daughters final choices, only 3 schools she had to pay full amount at were Rice, Brown, and Cornell.

 

[rutgersdave]

I think the cost is greatly exaggerated on this board. I’d like for some of the educators who have already posted here to chime in but most of my daughters friends got significant aid To the schools they were accepted at. Very few kids are paying 80k a year outside of the best schools. Of my daughters final choices, only 3 schools she had to pay full amount at were Rice, Brown, and Cornell.

The aid might be because they are top of the class. You mention they are the top 20 students in their school. That’s not the average student. You are exactly right very few kids are paying $80k a year because the kids that have to pay full price don’t apply.

 

[Knight Shift]

No. I have no problem with the Midwest. Lived there for almost 4 years. My question was simple. You wanted your kid to go to school in the northeast because of the opportunity. But he took a job in the middle of the country. Kids who go to FSU or Florida don’t have that same opportunity? I guess I just wonder why RU alum love their generalities. They think nothing compares to RU and no other schools offer equal opportunities. Many of these people l(not you) who haven’t researched a college or stepped on another campus except for maybe a game in 20 plus years. Guarantee if you mentioned south Florida they’d all laugh. Having no idea USF is AAU

Your reading comprehension is off. As parents, we did not "want" anything of the sort. We let our kids make their decisions, with our guidance. She took a job at a top software company, and the pay versus of the cost of living made a lot of sense, considering graduate school or law school may be a next step. But whatever the next step is, including a move to another company, experience gained on the resume is outstanding considering the reputation of the company. Not sure about FSU and this company, but in the computer science space, I would doubt it. Not sure about Florida's reputation in computer science, and don't care. Neither of our kids had any interest in going to school in Florida.

You talk about generalities of RU alums, but you have some theories and ideas as to why people make life choices that don't consider important reasons. We are very thankful that we raised two kids who are both academically gifted, but also very practical in making their choices. Hope the above clarifies why some young people make choices. I'm well aware of USF being AAU. If someone asked which schools to choose in Florida based on quality of the school, I'd go with UofF, USF, and then a push between Miami and FSU, which would be major dependent.

 

[vkj91]

Your reading comprehension is off. As parents, we did not "want" anything of the sort. We let our kids make their decisions, with our guidance. She took a job at a top software company, and the pay versus of the cost of living made a lot of sense, considering graduate school or law school may be a next step. But whatever the next step is, including a move to another company, experience gained on the resume is outstanding considering the reputation of the company. Not sure about FSU and this company, but in the computer science space, I would doubt it. Not sure about Florida's reputation in computer science, and don't care. Neither of our kids had any interest in going to school in Florida.

You talk about generalities of RU alums, but you have some theories and ideas as to why people make life choices that don't consider important reasons. We are very thankful that we raised two kids who are both academically gifted, but also very practical in making their choices. Hope the above clarifies why some young people make choices. I'm well aware of USF being AAU. If someone asked which schools to choose in Florida based on quality of the school, I'd go with UofF, USF, and then a push between Miami and FSU, which would be major dependent.

Did you not write this

Wouldn't send any of my family members to a school in the Southeast for a variety of reasons. Cost and proximity to internships

 

[vkj91]

The aid might be because they are top of the class. You mention they are the top 20 students in their school. That’s not the average student. You are exactly right very few kids are paying $80k a year because the kids that have to pay full price don’t apply.

Not quite sure what you mean? Are you assuming rich kids who would’t get aid don’t apply to schools like Florida or FSU? I have a friend who has twin daughters. One went to UVA and the other FSU. FSU one had better grades, better class rank and better SAT including perfect math score. She got less money than her sister at UVA. Also got denied from all her top choices.

Also, some schools take into account mich more than having “millions saved”. Brown takes the equity of your house into account. At one point, my daughter wasn’t 100% sure she wanted to play D1 sports. We qualified for zero aid at any school but not one school she applied to would have been way more expensive/or even more expensive than simply sending her to Rutgers based on merit aid.

 

[Knight Shift]

Did you not write this

Wouldn't send any of my family members to a school in the Southeast for a variety of reasons. Cost and proximity to internships

OK, Mr. Gotcha, but I made a bunch of other points. Context matters. And yes, Rutgers has a pipeline to this company that I highly doubt FSU or Clemson has. Not sure on UofF or USF, but I'm pretty sure they are pretty far below Rutgers in Computer Science. So, on the whole, top companies will be taking more Rutgers grads than from any of the Florida schools (maybe even combined).

As far as other majors, maybe, likely not, with exceptions for top schools such as Duke, Georgia Tech and maybe Vanderbilt and UNC if the tuition/room/board are more than staying in state. You did notice I said COST. And yes, proximity to internships being close to NYC and a ton of corporations in NJ does matter too. Something most schools int he south do not have, with the exception of Georgia Tech in Atlanta.

You have a tendency to cherry pick people's post to make it look like you are winning. Try reading everything in context.

This all started with someone's superficial opinion that housing mattered a lot in making a college choice. Maybe it does for some students. But all the other things that I mentioned matter a lot more to some other (maybe the majority ) of students.
Gotta tune back into to the Purdue slaughter of Rutgers on Fox. Good day to you.

 

[Knight Shift]

Not quite sure what you mean? Are you assuming rich kids who would’t get aid don’t apply to schools like Florida or FSU? I have a friend who has twin daughters. One went to UVA and the other FSU. FSU one had better grades, better class rank and better SAT including perfect math score. She got less money than her sister at UVA. Also got denied from all her top choices.

Also, some schools take into account mich more than having “millions saved”. Brown takes the equity of your house into account. At one point, my daughter wasn’t 100% sure she wanted to play D1 sports. We qualified for zero aid at any school but not one school she applied to would have been way more expensive/or even more expensive than simply sending her to Rutgers based on merit aid.

The Ivy league schools would be at the bottom of my list, especially Brown. Place is a lunatic factory, but I digress.

 

[rutgersdave]

Not quite sure what you mean? Are you assuming rich kids who would’t get aid don’t apply to schools like Florida or FSU? I have a friend who has twin daughters. One went to UVA and the other FSU. FSU one had better grades, better class rank and better SAT including perfect math score. She got less money than her sister at UVA. Also got denied from all her top choices.

Also, some schools take into account mich more than having “millions saved”. Brown takes the equity of your house into account. At one point, my daughter wasn’t 100% sure she wanted to play D1 sports. We qualified for zero aid at any school but not one school she applied to would have been way more expensive/or even more expensive than simply sending her to Rutgers based on merit aid.

I know I’m making a general statement but OOS tuition is about $20-30k more at comparable schools. If neither schools gives aid, that‘s about $80-120k more. Unless, it‘s Ivy League or Michigan, NC, or Virginia the majority of parents will not pay for it. Some parent, maybe 15-30%, will pay and that’s fine but not the majority.

 

[ScarletDog]

Delicate? Yes you are.

Yet the grades and SATs tell a different story.

But they take the money of low-IQ NJ parents who can't deal with their kid being on the Rowan wait list.

Dude you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[vkj91]

OK, Mr. Gotcha, but I made a bunch of other points. Context matters. And yes, Rutgers has a pipeline to this company that I highly doubt FSU or Clemson has. Not sure on UofF or USF, but I'm pretty sure they are pretty far below Rutgers in Computer Science. So, on the whole, top companies will be taking more Rutgers grads than from any of the Florida schools (maybe even combined).

As far as other majors, maybe, likely not, with exceptions for top schools such as Duke, Georgia Tech and maybe Vanderbilt and UNC if the tuition/room/board are more than staying in state. You did notice I said COST. And yes, proximity to internships being close to NYC and a ton of corporations in NJ does matter too. Something most schools int he south do not have, with the exception of Georgia Tech in Atlanta.

You have a tendency to cherry pick people's post to make it look like you are winning. Try reading everything in context.

This all started with someone's superficial opinion that housing mattered a lot in making a college choice. Maybe it does for some students. But all the other things that I mentioned matter a lot more to some other (maybe the majority ) of students.
Gotta tune back into to the Purdue slaughter of Rutgers on Fox. Good day to you.

It’s not a Gotcha. It was a serious question. Then you made believe you didn’t say it. Then it became just part of the argument. Ok. Let’s talk cost. After 1 year you get in state tuition at Florida schools quite easily. As I said yesterday, my friends cost to go to USF is significantly lower than anyones at Rutgers. The rest of your post as you stated, is just an assumption based on your doubt. No rooted in any data. Speaking of cherry picking, nobody said housing mattered “a lot”

 

[vkj91]

The Ivy league schools would be at the bottom of my list, especially Brown. Place is a lunatic factory, but I digress.

Which is why they were never really at top of her list but would have been stupid not to listen to the staffs

 

[Knight Shift]

Dude you have no idea what you are talking about.

Had one other thought on our back and forth. Will say this much- it would not surprise me if the tours for both prospective students and admitted students did not put much forethought into the particulars tour stops and which dorms they visited. As Rutgers alums say, Rutgers gonna Rutgers. We kind of got the red carpet treatment being decent donors to RU, but even when we took the bus tour, I felt like jumping out of bus window a couple of times. Our kids had been in and out of many of the buildings for years because we went to Rutgers Day, and they were both comfortable with Rutgers. Our youngest was smart enough to go somewhere else--not so much because of Rutgers, but he wanted guaranteed entry into the professional phase of his 6 year program if his grades were up to snuff and he wanted a smaller school. We have grown to really like/love his school and the opportunities it has provided for him.

 

[ScarletDog]

It’s not a Gotcha. It was a serious question. Then you made believe you didn’t say it. Then it became just part of the argument. Ok. Let’s talk cost. After 1 year you get in state tuition at Florida schools quite easily. As I said yesterday, my friends cost to go to USF is significantly lower than anyones at Rutgers. The rest of your post as you stated, is just an assumption based on your doubt. No rooted in any data. Speaking of cherry picking, nobody said housing mattered “a lot”

Not only this, but even with OOS tuition the FL state universities are quite comparable to RU in terms of total cost. Then, when you are a good student, it quickly becomes less than RU. Everyone thinks it cost a lot more to go OOS. My experience is that its similar or even less when you consider merit aid.

 

[Knight Shift]

It’s not a Gotcha. It was a serious question. Then you made believe you didn’t say it. Then it became just part of the argument. Ok. Let’s talk cost. After 1 year you get in state tuition at Florida schools quite easily. As I said yesterday, my friends cost to go to USF is significantly lower than anyones at Rutgers. The rest of your post as you stated, is just an assumption based on your doubt. No rooted in any data. Speaking of cherry picking, nobody said housing mattered “a lot”

Geez are you an insufferable prick. I answered it directly. Enjoy your life. And learn how to read.

 

[Knight Shift]

Not only this, but even with OOS tuition the FL state universities are quite comparable to RU in terms of total cost. Then, when you are a good student, it quickly becomes less than RU. Everyone thinks it cost a lot more to go OOS. My experience is that its similar or even less when you consider merit aid.

As I stated above, 4 years at Rutgers cost us $25 out of pocket. UCLA offered nothing. Forget the cost difference but it was on the order of $225K.

 

[vkj91]

I know I’m making a general statement but OOS tuition is about $20-30k more at comparable schools. If neither schools gives aid, that‘s about $80-120k more. Unless, it‘s Ivy League or Michigan, NC, or Virginia the majority of parents will not pay for it. Some parent, maybe 15-30%, will pay and that’s fine but not the majority.

As I stated earlier. My buddies daughter went to a good not great NJ public. Top 20 normal SAT’s for that rank, upper middle class. He’s paying 30k for UVA. What’s Rutgers cost?

 

[ScarletDog]

Had one other thought on our back and forth. Will say this much- it would not surprise me if the tours for both prospective students and admitted students did not put much forethought into the particulars tour stops and which dorms they visited. As Rutgers alums say, Rutgers gonna Rutgers. We kind of got the red carpet treatment being decent donors to RU, but even when we took the bus tour, I felt like jumping out of bus window a couple of times. Our kids had been in and out of many of the buildings for years because we went to Rutgers Day, and they were both comfortable with Rutgers. Our youngest was smart enough to go somewhere else--not so much because of Rutgers, but he wanted guaranteed entry into the professional phase of his 6 year program if his grades were up to snuff and he wanted a smaller school. We have grown to really like/love his school and the opportunities it has provided for him.

I agree with you about Rutgers gonna Rutgers. It's actually a shame...they don't put their best foot forward in many ways. Great school that doesn't show well. Almost like they don't care. I've said this before, my son was a lock for Rutgers....loved Rutgers all his life due to my brainwashing with RU sports over the years. Then when he actually looked at it from a perspective student, it changed fast. Other places became way more appealing. It is what it is...but we can do better with some effort. At the end of the day, RU is getting great students and isn't struggling to fill classes with highly qualified kids. Maybe it doesn't matter and maybe there's a place for everyone that make sense for that person/family.

 

[vkj91]

Geez are you an insufferable prick. I answered it directly. Enjoy your life. And learn how to read.

I can read just fine. You might just be a little too sensitive about Rutgers and the reality of other schools. But that’s fine, it’s commonplace here.

 

[ScarletDog]

As I stated above, 4 years at Rutgers cost us $25 out of pocket. UCLA offered nothing. Forget the cost difference but it was on the order of $225K.

Yeah I'm not comparing to CA schools...I would not expect them to give much if any merit. More a comparison to the SE and specifically FL publics. There is merit money and it eliminates the price differential or even makes it cheaper. Also my kid was offered zero from Rutgers, so I'm comparing to full price at RU.

 

[Knight Shift]

I can read just fine. You might just be a little too sensitive about Rutgers and the reality of other schools. But that’s fine, it’s commonplace here.

Nope, you have been an insufferable prick in this thread, and it has nothing about sensitivity to Rutgers. I have stated in many places it has plenty of problems and it has. It's far from perfect, but nothing is perfect. But when it's a matter of shelling out another $100-200K to go to another schools, especially in the southeast that does not have a great (or even good) reputation in a major of the prospective student, it makes no sense. But then you decided to cherry pick stuff I posted and try to play gotcha.