However remote there still is a chance you could be reinfected or be a carrier of the virus? The Secret Spreader” syndrome. It is amazing that the same are mucking up the original information and statistical data from the past several months... I’ll say this...though I haven’t always agreed with numbers posts I credit him for being consistent at least... There will always be issues with any vaccine ... The key would be to eliminate the issues and continue to develop better , safer and more additional therapeutic drugs.
Not sure who to direct this to.
It's not "arbitrary". If you bothered to look more closely, its because we don't know if the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines prevent spreadof the virus at this time. The upcoming JNJ vaccine does prevent the spread. So go and spin again. You must be so dizzy from all your spinning.
So the vaccine shouldn't be released until they know whether it prevents spread vs immediate release to protect people from getting the virus. Let's let thousands more get the virus and die while we wait for that answer instead of wearing a mask and protecting people until we get that answer. That's pretzel logic.
Who says they won't move the goalposts towards normality in a few months? So why not be cautious in order to protect others by masking until then. Masks have nothing to do with control, its caring for our neighbors. When did we lose that charitable aspect of our society?
Because it was and still is a political tool for those coming into power. State leaders mimic Federal leaders and that is why if millions are indeed vaccinated by June 2021 you will not be able to control the people even those who were pro mask . Guys like Newsome , Cuomo, Murphy , DI Blasio , Garcetti etc. better be prepared.
I don't understand the "control" issue. I'm being serious. What kind of control are you referring to? How does mask wearing lead to control? Reminds me of Reefer Madness when smoking pot was definitely going to lead to heroin addiction.
You don’t think what we have witnessed in California , NY, NJ is not control ? it’s not about the science and it won’t be about science if we don’t continue to see the proper distribution of the vaccines. Even in states where mask wearing was strictly enforced we still have major outbreaks of covid19.
Public parks and fields were closed. I couldn’t go to a park and have a catch with my son. That’s not control?
I don't get it. Honestly, if being mandated to wear a mask for the possibility of reducing (no one guaranteed) the spread of infection, is a form of control, I'm OK with it. If I'm told to report to a quarantine camp and leave my family behind, that's a different story. One doesn't lead to the other.
I believe that edict was misplaced, as were others closing certain businesses but keeping others open without logical reasoning. I think those in charge, with the knowledge of what we know now about the disease, wouldn't have made those mandates. We were in an abyss of lack of knowledge when this pandemic arrived. To chalk it up to simply a method of control without purpose is unfounded IMO.
On the surface, I could agree with you. I totally bought into the whole initial lockdown. But now we know what we know and these same stupid policies continue. So what’s your explanation for these things still happening?
You do know that we have a spike now because many people ignored the advice and had Thanksgiving get together with their families and friends right?
Oh I’m good with masks if it helps slow the spread and that may actually be science...maybe? Closing indoor dining , gyms etc. is not the science ... renewing the monthly emergency controls are just that ...controls . Most of the people are not happy with it...All you have to do is see people shopping at Walmart’s, BJ’s , Home Depot’s , Lowe’s and even Hobby Lobby...notice I did not mention food stores...or liquor stores...too bad marijuana stores weren’t in yet they would have lines around the block.Remember “ we are using the SCIENCE...sure for controls.
Well if we were in “this abyss “ as you call it why did governors and mayors call the shots? Even SCIENCE didn’t take those actions...Oh yeah there was an upcoming election .
Why feel different? You are either onboard or you are really just as conflicted as 99% of the US population as of 12/16/2020.
There was no disagreements on the actual mask wearing vs not wearing them. The mask wearing beside protection also has been used as a control mechanism by governors and mayors in order to institute prohibitive measures. We have been over the issue of closings and shutdowns and why it has been an abuse and not just for covid19 protection. Shutting indoordining, gyms , parks , churches etc. while allowing rampant turmoil in the streets of America did not make sense. Remember those famous words “ the SCIENCE ... we are going by the SCIENCE”.
You never did and you never will... this was not about mask wearing and whether the right or wrong it was about the directives by not science but politicians who had no sense of what to do in order to slow spread... if masks actually slowed the spread we in this Metro NY area would not be facing this problem of infection rates.... I have not seen a mask less person in any stores , buildings , churches ,schools, buses , trains... if you did see someone recently did you call them out since you feel this strongly. I doubt it.
Why would the government fool us into wearing masks if they "don't do anything". Why would politicians close down businesses? How does that benefit them in any particular way? What conspiracy is it now? New world order? Microchips? "Libtard indoctrination"?
